NAS Integration for Home Network

teamhurtado

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Aloha! As a nerd (as my wife puts it), I'm looking for a better storage solution for our small, but hopefully growing, home network. Current setup can be found below.

Between using our HTPC as a PVR, movie player, and digital storage, we've exhausted our 500 GB in a short amount of time. I'd like to deploy a longer term solution instead of constantly shuffling files around to make sure (about 30 GB disk space remaining). I'm thinking a NAS solution may be worthwhile at this point instead of adding an extra drive to the HTPC, but I defer to the community for advice.

My thought is to purchase a Synology 213j with 2 x 2TB WD Red drives in a RAID 1 setup, giving us I hope enough space and peace of mind with a local redundancy solution. We currently use CrashPlan for cloud based backup storage.

Would a NAS be overkill for our small network? The thought of using a 213j, for example, would be for cloud and device syncing capabilities. The other question of course would be whether or not to go with a Synology or QNAP system. I'm not familiar with either setup so I'll defer that to the community as well.

I wouldn't mind being able to use a NAS to stream music and movies so I'm not sure what would be powerful enough but still economical for our needs. I'd like to stay under $500 with drives if at all possible. Drive recommendations are also accepted but I'll probably end up with WD Reds since Blacks are a bit too pricey, although the warranty on them may make it worthwhile.

Thanks all!

Current setup

  • Intel i5 processor
    8 GB RAM
    500 GB WD Caviar Blue
    Verizon FIOS 50/25 into HTPC (wired into HTPC)
    CrashPlan (Cloud based backup)
    XBMC as daily driver
    Chromecast
    2 x Nexus Tablets
    2 x Android Phones


 
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You cant go wrong with either qnap or synology. I have found them both to be very good quality units.
I would also make sure that the nas you select works with 4tb drives. 3 yrs down the road you dont want to be stuck with a nas that cant run a modern drive.

In your situation I would upgrade the htpc with a 2tb drive with the second one in the Nas.
This allows you to backup the htpc to the NAS. You dont really want your backup to be in the same pc as the source IMO.

You can add in the other 2tb for the NAS raid1 as fund become available. I have four 2tb drives in mine, two are WD green drives and the other pair are Samsung f4's. Both have been reliable and problem free.
There is no need for a black or 7200rpm drive. The gigabit...
You won't go wrong with a NAS. Just make sure you have wired Ethernet where you plan to put it (Gigabit would be excellent). Then just tell XBMC to look for content over the NAS.

Some NASs have also UPNP capability, so you could be able to stream content to your tablets directly.
 

popatim

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You cant go wrong with either qnap or synology. I have found them both to be very good quality units.
I would also make sure that the nas you select works with 4tb drives. 3 yrs down the road you dont want to be stuck with a nas that cant run a modern drive.

In your situation I would upgrade the htpc with a 2tb drive with the second one in the Nas.
This allows you to backup the htpc to the NAS. You dont really want your backup to be in the same pc as the source IMO.

You can add in the other 2tb for the NAS raid1 as fund become available. I have four 2tb drives in mine, two are WD green drives and the other pair are Samsung f4's. Both have been reliable and problem free.
There is no need for a black or 7200rpm drive. The gigabit network will only transfer about 100MB/s (depending of equipment) which 5400rpm drive can handle just fine.

If you really want to backup the NAS pick up a 2tb external. I dont beleive either manufacturers software allows you to backup the nas to an internal device.

all 2tb drives @ newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600003269%20600003300&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
 
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teamhurtado

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That actually isn't a bad idea. The question then becomes, do I go with a 2 bay NAS or spring for a 4 bay (question for myself).

With regards to hard drives, I'm of the impression that the green drives aren't meant to run 24/7 like in a NAS. Would a WD Blue suffice in this scenario?

If I were to run with a 2 TB drive in the HTPC and a 2 TB in the NAS, would I see any issues running the 2 TB HTPC drive at 7200 and the NAS drive at 5400 rpm? It's been a long time since I've used a 5400 rpm drive so I'd like to make sure it's sufficiently fast enough to stream 1080p movies and TV. Thanks again!
 

popatim

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again, 7200 rpm makes no difference when used over the network, the network just can't pump data thru that fast. a modern 5400rpm drive can doo 120MB/s and a modern 7200rpm drive peaks at just over 200 and sustained is like 150 (meaning 30% of its time would be spent sitting there just spinning while it waits to send more data) but you certainly can use them if you want. I just want you to understand the network bandwidth bottleneck.

yes go for a 7200 in the htpc, the performance can be usefull there at loading. (os, programs,..)

as for the nas itself, it wont be on all of the time, they sleep when not busy just like a pc. If your concerned about the drive, Seagate now has a NAS line and WD's version is the RED editions. Those were not available when I got my drives to give you an idea of how long they've been working just fine.