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August 14, 2013 9:34:29 AM

Which of the two is better and why?

I plan on buying a 250GB SSD off eBay

I am wondering if I should choose the Samsung 840 Pro 250GB or Samsung 840 Evo 250gb. Both are available for close to the same price.

I will be using it on my laptop. I download a lot of movies, do photoshop, play games, etc.

Thanks
August 14, 2013 9:39:14 AM

for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?
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August 14, 2013 9:50:36 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
First, make sure the 840 Pro is 256 GB not 250 GB. The pro uses a different type of NAND. The Pro uses MLC which is older but faster. The regular 840 and the Evo use TLC which is newer and cheaper to produce. Also, the Pro's MLC NAND is supposed to last much longer. The 2nd article estimates that MLC's expected lifespan is 60 years vs 19 years for TLC. If you do not plan on using the SSD for more than a decade, this is trivial. Depending on how close the prices are, the Pro is the way to go. If the Evo 840 is significantly cheaper, it is not bad at all, I own a regular 250 GB 840 and it is very fast. If you can find a regular 830 get that, it also uses MLC. The difference between the Evo and regular is that the Evo only uses 2 "bits per cell" while the regular uses 3 bpc. This makes the Evo faster.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/samsung-840-pro-review...


It dont really matter the price.. i want the best 250/256GB SSD possible. I wasnt sure if samsung 840pro or evo was better.

With what you said, I think I will go with the 840 Pro.

Unless u know another brand that is better(Faster) ?

Thanks for help.
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August 14, 2013 9:52:25 AM

RaisingTheBarHD said:
for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?


Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB = 215$
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB = 250$

The pro is actually lower price.. so i find it strange that its better
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August 14, 2013 9:53:02 AM

1) 840 Pro has higher benchmarks - NO BIGGY as in real life You will not see a difference in day-2-day performance.

2) 840 EVO uses 19nm TLC, 840 Pro use MLC and has a higher write cycles rating - No a bigg issue as under normal usage the your still looking at 10+ years of use.

3) Power consumption very close for EVO and Pro ( about the best for SSDs)
... Power consumption really only an issue for laptops.

4) Pro = 6 gigs more space - again depending on space required probably not a biggy.


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To say that I really like the EVO is an understatement. If Samsung can keep quantities of the 840 EVO flowing, and keep prices at or below its MSRP, it'll be a real winner and probably my pick for best mainstream SSD.
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Ref: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-...
Page 1 has a good discussion of TLC NAND
Use the pull down to look at benchmarks and power consumption.
Added: based on comments that popped up while writing this.
Based on Price the Pro is the clear winner.


More on Benchmarks: I have Crucial M4, Samsung 830s and Samsung 840 Pro. Using AS SSD as benchmark, the 840 Pro should (REPEAT should) be about 60 % faster - YEA Right There is VERY little difference in real life, hard to tell which system has which of the 3 SSDs installed.
M4 and 830's Overall score approx mid 700s, 840 Pro scores a wooping 1100. BUT I love my 840 Pro.
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August 14, 2013 10:01:16 AM

olivierg said:
RaisingTheBarHD said:
for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?


Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB = 215$
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB = 250$

The pro is actually lower price.. so i find it strange that its better


for those prices i would go with the Pro version for sure
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August 14, 2013 10:15:43 AM

RaisingTheBarHD said:
olivierg said:
RaisingTheBarHD said:
for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?


Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB = 215$
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB = 250$

The pro is actually lower price.. so i find it strange that its better


for those prices i would go with the Pro version for sure


Yeah, that is crazy. What site is this? I might get a Pro and put my regular 840 up on Ebay, lol. That is a good $30 or $40 below normal prices. Typically the 840 Pro goes for a little less than $1 per gigabyte. Right now on newegg (US), the Evo is $189 and the Pro is $239.
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August 14, 2013 10:16:41 AM

I only use Samsung 840 Pros in my rigs now. Proven reliable so far and are as fast as the day I got em. You won't be sorry with that purchase.
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August 14, 2013 10:36:36 AM

Just a little insight - Maybe I'm out in left field playing with daisies, but here goes:

A little on Benchmarks, they are called “SYNTHETIC” for a reason.
Most all reviews use them to show a difference and in some cases it can look like a big difference, BUT if you look at a check using real programs the differences shrink drastically.
... Sequential performance – This is the most often cited matrix – BUT is the least important one for an OS + Program SSD. It is IMPORTANT if the drive is used as a storage drive and you work with LARGE data structures such as the 10 gazzion large photo jpeg/bitmaps, the 1 Gig dot vobs (DVD files) and the 13+ gig Blu-ray files. It is the small 4K performance that is important for an OS + Program drive.

USER Reliability/least user problems to select which of the higher end SATA III drives to Buy – Samsung has a very good rep here.

On “quoted” life expectancy. LOLs. While the tests are somewhat valid they DO NOT reflect real life usage which is going to be a lot less;
... I still think they will outlast there useful life. That is the newest/latest tech will make you want to replace them before they die.

Quick reason why I say the Life cycle test is not valid. Will use a car battery as an example.
When the Battery is getting close to the end of its life. You uses it on a given day and start/stop/restart, NO Problems – it cranks right up. But leave it overnight and it will drain and Walla, dead battery.
The lifecycle test is continued write/delete/write until a cell dies. The NAND cells do NOT get a period of time to allow the charge to decay.
User. Occasionally turns the computer off. Not sure the exact time frame, But if you take a “NEW” SSD and place files on it and take it out of the computer, somewhere between 3 Months and a year the data will be gone. In real life you turn the computer off say overnight. You reach a point that the cell cannot hold the charge. This will occur MUCH sooner than the “life cycle test. Problem is that this type of a test is NOT practical, ie 100 write’s per cell, power off and leave overnight, power on and do another
100 writes per cell ect – This type of test would be valid but take a VERY long time to complete
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September 28, 2013 12:03:54 PM

Sorry, noob here. Was getting ready to walk out the door to microcenter.

So Marky000, The Evo is 50 bucks cheaper than the Pro.

The Pro does come with the Migration Software. CD, etc. I guess I don't really need it because hard drive is shot, 300 bucks to get it restored.

I think I am going to take your advice and save the 50 bucks. Seems like adding the word "Pro" is about all you get.
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September 28, 2013 1:12:40 PM

jasonnky said:
Sorry, noob here. Was getting ready to walk out the door to microcenter.

So Marky000, The Evo is 50 bucks cheaper than the Pro.

The Pro does come with the Migration Software. CD, etc. I guess I don't really need it because hard drive is shot, 300 bucks to get it restored.

I think I am going to take your advice and save the 50 bucks. Seems like adding the word "Pro" is about all you get.


There is the extra two year warranty and the life expectancy is around 19 years for the Evo compared to almost 70 years for the Pro. Although 19 years is probably 3 or 4 times as long as anyone has ever used the same hard drive, it gives you an idea of the difference between MLC (Pro) and TLC (Evo & regular) NAND. Even though the speeds are nearly identical and the random speeds are pretty close, the Pro is extremely durable and is a proven tech while the TLC in the Evo was just recently implemented in mass market drives and there is no telling if it will even last past the 3 year warranty.
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October 2, 2013 3:38:54 AM

Samsung 250GB 840 EVO Series SSD is comes with new firmware. I think you should go with Samsung EVO Drive

olivierg said:
Which of the two is better? why?

I cant seems to find my answer... I will buy 250GB SSD off ebay..

Wondering if I should choose the Samsung 840 Pro 250GB or Samsung 840 Evo 250gb Both are availaible close to be same price.

I will be using it on my laptop. I download alot of movie, do photoshop work, play video games..

Thanks


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October 12, 2013 1:32:55 PM

Reader6666 said:
Anyone know why the PassMark Disk Rating shows the EVO to be almost twice as fast as the Pro Series?
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=Samsung+S...


Those numbers are likely coming from the drives with RAPID mode enabled, which utilizes system RAM in order to boost the EVO's performance by as much as 2.5x.
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October 29, 2013 8:50:39 AM

gorskiegangsta said:
Reader6666 said:
Anyone know why the PassMark Disk Rating shows the EVO to be almost twice as fast as the Pro Series?
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=Samsung+S...


Those numbers are likely coming from the drives with RAPID mode enabled, which utilizes system RAM in order to boost the EVO's performance by as much as 2.5x.


I have the SSD Pro because it is many times more reliable (Longer Life) that the faster Evo RAPID.
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November 29, 2013 10:53:56 AM

u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
First, make sure the 840 Pro is 256 GB not 250 GB. The pro uses a different type of NAND. The Pro uses MLC which is older but faster. The regular 840 and the Evo use TLC which is newer and cheaper to produce. Also, the Pro's MLC NAND is supposed to last much longer. The 2nd article estimates that MLC's expected lifespan is 60 years vs 19 years for TLC. If you do not plan on using the SSD for more than a decade, this is trivial. Depending on how close the prices are, the Pro is the way to go. If the Evo 840 is significantly cheaper, it is not bad at all, I own a regular 250 GB 840 and it is very fast. If you can find a regular 830 get that, it also uses MLC. The difference between the Evo and regular is that the Evo only uses 2 "bits per cell" while the regular uses 3 bpc. This makes the Evo faster.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/samsung-840-pro-review...


What if the prices are

Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB = 425dollar

Samsung SSD 840 PROSeries 512GB = 564 dollar

witch shod i those?
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December 2, 2013 4:11:03 PM

Ulrik Engelsvoll said:
u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya said:
First, make sure the 840 Pro is 256 GB not 250 GB. The pro uses a different type of NAND. The Pro uses MLC which is older but faster. The regular 840 and the Evo use TLC which is newer and cheaper to produce. Also, the Pro's MLC NAND is supposed to last much longer. The 2nd article estimates that MLC's expected lifespan is 60 years vs 19 years for TLC. If you do not plan on using the SSD for more than a decade, this is trivial. Depending on how close the prices are, the Pro is the way to go. If the Evo 840 is significantly cheaper, it is not bad at all, I own a regular 250 GB 840 and it is very fast. If you can find a regular 830 get that, it also uses MLC. The difference between the Evo and regular is that the Evo only uses 2 "bits per cell" while the regular uses 3 bpc. This makes the Evo faster.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/samsung-ssd-840-evo-...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/samsung-840-pro-review...


What if the prices are

Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB = 425dollar

Samsung SSD 840 PROSeries 512GB = 564 dollar

witch shod i those?


Cheaper one. Use the savings to do something useful.
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December 9, 2013 1:24:21 PM

I have checked the Samsung website and they say that the EVO is MLC Nand. Both Newegg and NCIX also say it is MLC.
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December 10, 2013 12:18:34 PM

Robert McFetridge said:
I have checked the Samsung website and they say that the EVO is MLC Nand. Both Newegg and NCIX also say it is MLC.


Yes, the Samsung spec sheet does say that it is "3-bit MLC NAND". This is another way of saying TLC. I would assume that Newegg and NCIX are pulling this from the Samsung spec sheet.
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December 10, 2013 2:00:44 PM

Last week the Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB sold for $299.00. In 10 to 30 years from now we will all have a new machine so the less you pay today, the less you lose tomorrow.
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December 20, 2013 3:37:54 AM

olivierg said:
RaisingTheBarHD said:
for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?


Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB = 215$
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB = 250$

The pro is actually lower price.. so i find it strange that its better


Here is an Evo to $197

http://dx.com/p/samsung-mz-7te250bw-sata-iii-internal-s...
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January 3, 2014 3:48:16 PM

I bought evo 250gb from amazon @149 last November. Its IOPS is fast enough for what most people need, although a few MB/sec difference on paper aren't noticeable in real word performance. So i would suggest you buy the best bang for the money, whatever brand/model it is. I usually go for the best balance of price, speed and reliability.

I have both Intel 520 (laptop) and Samsung EVO (desktop). Speed numbers indicate EVO is faster but i can see NO noticeable difference in boot up time, launching apps, etc. I also do photo post processing (LR & PS) and gaming but comparing SSD vs another SSD has very slight impact on these apps. If you have I/O intensive apps, go for the more reliable SSDs.
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April 2, 2014 12:36:47 PM

Right now, in the 500-512 range, the EVO goes for 270 while the Pro goes for 395 on Amazon.

I wonder if it's worth almost 50% more for the Pro.

I do intense usage, but not something like a Database Operations.
Just Photoshop, with heavy files. Does that qualify as intense I/O?
It's going into an Early 2011 MacBook Pro
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April 7, 2014 2:41:41 PM

EVO is plenty fast. We've got both EVOs and 840 Pros in an z820 and I can definitely say the Pro's are not worth the 2x the price upgrade. Just get a 1TB EVO adn it will be smoking fast.
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April 9, 2014 3:49:46 PM

^ Concur, I just put a 500 Gig EVO in my new laptop - The higher end ones are just not cost effective. The Laptop only has space for one drive, hence the 500 gig.

Only cavet is longevity. They will not last as long as the higher end ones and TRUE reliability/lifespan as tested by users is another couple of years. Manuf test are NOT real life.

I have about 13 SSDs and Not one failure. Oldest SSD is a Intel G1 and G2.
Newer ones, Have Crucial M4's 128 gig/256 gig, Samsung 830's both 128 & 256 gig, and Samsung pro 128 gig/256 gig.

As to performance, there is only a nickels worth of difference. Might look at the crucial M500 (newer 550 priced closer to the 840 pro.

Recommend you not fill drive past the 75% mark to maximize longevity.
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April 26, 2014 11:09:30 AM

I recently purchased a new Samsung 840 Evo 500GB, (Newegg for $234. On a ‘special sale), to replace my Plextor PX-256 M5Pro. My computer now contains 4 internal drives.

The Samsung SSD carries the O/S and several other ‘key’ programs such as Adobe Acrobat X Pro, CS 6 Extended, MS Office 2010 and a few others, (via Junction Points), which in total, take up about 140GB of the usable 465GB.

The Plextor carries one massive program; MS FSX and only the Root folder at that. At 154GB, FSX takes up two thirds of the drive’s usable space, which is 238GB.

Then I have two Seagate Barracuda, 1TB HDDs of which one that plays a direct support role to the Samsung O/S drive.

The other HDD handles remaining flight sim add-on programs that perform better when they’re not loaded on the same drive as the main FSX program, (i.e. MegasceneryEarth programs and the like).

(I thought I’d detail my drive layout just in case the info was comparable and played a part in your own usage).

I used HD Tune Pro, (just a few weeks ago, when I bought/installed the Samsung), and found that the Samsung 840 Evo was considerably slower by over 55% than the Plextor for any read/write/transfer operations of 512bytes to 64kb.

(I couldn't seem to get the info to space out correctly in this editor but it's not too hard to see the line-up)
Random Access test result Examples:
The Plextor:
Transfer size ops/sec avg access time max access time avg speed
512 bytes: 21443 IOPS 0.046 ms 0.165 ms 10.470 MB/s
4 KB 16879 IOPS 0.059 ms 0.497 ms 65.934 MB/s
64 KB 3430 IOPS 0.291 ms 0.717 ms 214.413 MB/s

The Samsung:
512 bytes 7935 IOPS 0.126 ms 0.268 ms 3.875 MB/s
4 KB 7839 IOPS 0.127 ms 0.578 ms 30.624 MB/s
64 KB 3569 IOPS 0.280 ms 0.661 ms 223.068 MB/s


However, when the transfer sizes get to 1 MB or bigger and in Random transfer sizes, the tide changes drastically and it’s the Samsung that begins blowing the Plextor out of the water.

I’ll only list the results for the Random Transfer here but take my word for it when I say that the Samsung was twice as fast as the Plextor from the 1 MB transfer size on up.

The Plextor:
Random 503 IOPS 1.986 ms 4.378 ms 255.365 MB/s

The Samsung:
Random 784 IOPS 1.274 ms 2.534 ms 398.222 MB/s

If I understand “Retiredchief’s” post correctly, it would seem that I might not have the Samsung playing the best part in my present drive setup. But unless he, or someone else knows what the average size is in the data FSX deals with in comparison to the average size of the data the O/S is dealing with at the same time, I can’t be sure I have the two SSD’s in their best roles.

Of course, I ran Benchmark and File Benchmark tests as well as others and the results were similar. I’m guessing that you’ve already decided and bought the drive you wanted. I don’t know if the difference in the capacity between the Plextor and the Samsung had anything to do with the test results I got. Maybe someone else can shed some light on that.

It would be interesting to see what the same HD Tune Pro, “Random Test”, test results for the 840 Pro are to compare them to the Evo tests I did. If you do happen to get the Pro version, maybe you can run that test with the freeware version of HD Tune and post it here. I’d be interested in seeing what the results showed.
Thanks, Rich
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April 29, 2014 7:43:55 PM

I have both Samsung 840 EVO and 840 PRO. Could say no perceptive difference in real life.
After saw Tom'sHardware bechmarks I think 840 PRO is faster. I would suggest 840 PRO.
Just because Samsung 840 PRO has more GigaBytes for the money! Both are really fast!

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olivierg said:
RaisingTheBarHD said:
for read/write speeds it goes like this

840 pro > 840 Evo > 840

How much is the price difference you are seeing?


Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB = 215$
Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB = 250$

The pro is actually lower price.. so i find it strange that its better


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May 22, 2014 6:22:37 PM

Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?

Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols

Cheers..
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May 22, 2014 9:26:03 PM

knightwolf153 said:
Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?

Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols

Cheers..


Samsung evo and pro are both ssd, solid-state drives, no spindle like in the 1tb 5400 rpm. Ssd's are generally faster. Pro i think has power loss protection and longer warranty than evo.


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May 22, 2014 9:36:55 PM

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knightwolf153 said:
Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?

Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols
Cheers..

Samsung evo and pro are both ssd, solid-state drives, no spindle like in the 1tb 5400 rpm. Ssd's are generally faster. Pro i think has power loss protection and longer warranty than evo.


Power loss protection? Should I consider this as I'll be using it in a laptop with limited power supplied?
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May 23, 2014 7:05:04 AM

I've had the 840 Pro 256GB in my desktop since before the EVO came out. I love it. I suspect it will long outlast my desktop.

I just bought an 840 EVO 250GB for my son's desktop yesterday... but waiting for the 6GB SATAIII cord to arrive today to finalize installation.

It was ~$70 price difference with the EVO being cheaper. My son is still 12. I just need to get his [6 month old] computer to last 4-5 more years to get him to college where I know he will need whatever the latest and greatest is (tablets? Google Glasses?).

I've got faith the EVO can get him/me there.
He also has a 1TB HDD for data (I have a 2TB HDD for data)
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May 23, 2014 10:36:24 AM

knightwolf153 said:
forged said:
knightwolf153 said:
Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?

Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols
Cheers..

Samsung evo and pro are both ssd, solid-state drives, no spindle like in the 1tb 5400 rpm. Ssd's are generally faster. Pro i think has power loss protection and longer warranty than evo.


Power loss protection? Should I consider this as I'll be using it in a laptop with limited power supplied?

If the price difference is just a few bucks i would go with the pro. I have been using evo for almost a year now and i can say it's yet to disappoint me. No hang up, no bsod, nothing.

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May 24, 2014 3:56:33 AM

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knightwolf153 said:
forged said:
knightwolf153 said:
Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?
Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols
Cheers..

Samsung evo and pro are both ssd, solid-state drives, no spindle like in the 1tb 5400 rpm. Ssd's are generally faster. Pro i think has power loss protection and longer warranty than evo.

Power loss protection? Should I consider this as I'll be using it in a laptop with limited power supplied?

If the price difference is just a few bucks i would go with the pro. I have been using evo for almost a year now and i can say it's yet to disappoint me. No hang up, no bsod, nothing.


Thanks for that, Nah the price difference is about $60 so the Evo it is...
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May 24, 2014 7:12:43 AM

knightwolf153 said:
forged said:
knightwolf153 said:
forged said:
knightwolf153 said:
Thread dig, well sort of..
seems this is the place to ask as you guys seem to know more than me...
The difference between a PRO 256GB, an EVO 250GB and a 1TB 5400RPM old school HDD?
Yes I'm using a 5400RPM old school HDD...lols
Cheers..

Samsung evo and pro are both ssd, solid-state drives, no spindle like in the 1tb 5400 rpm. Ssd's are generally faster. Pro i think has power loss protection and longer warranty than evo.

Power loss protection? Should I consider this as I'll be using it in a laptop with limited power supplied?

If the price difference is just a few bucks i would go with the pro. I have been using evo for almost a year now and i can say it's yet to disappoint me. No hang up, no bsod, nothing.


Thanks for that, Nah the price difference is about $60 so the Evo it is...


Cool. Either of them is an excellent choice anyways. Enjoy
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May 31, 2014 12:22:09 AM

gorskiegangsta said:
Reader6666 said:
Anyone know why the PassMark Disk Rating shows the EVO to be almost twice as fast as the Pro Series?
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=Samsung+S...


Those numbers are likely coming from the drives with RAPID mode enabled, which utilizes system RAM in order to boost the EVO's performance by as much as 2.5x.


So the EVO is in fact, faster, given that you have a surplus of RAM to burn?

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July 17, 2014 9:53:49 AM

olivierg said:
Which of the two is better? why?

I cant seems to find my answer... I will buy 250GB SSD off ebay..

Wondering if I should choose the Samsung 840 Pro 250GB or Samsung 840 Evo 250gb Both are availaible close to be same price.

I will be using it on my laptop. I download alot of movie, do photoshop work, play video games..

Thanks



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