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My 1 time to build my dream machine.. need lots of advice pleaseeeee

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August 15, 2013 5:48:10 PM

Hi everyone.. Well this is my chance to build my dream machine. The budget is between $2000-$3000 for everything. The only thing I dont need is an operating system as I am sitting on a 64 bit Windows 8 Pro disk. I have a 50 inch tv that this will at times be hooked up to but also want 1 good monitor if there is something on the tv I want to watch. I have done a lot of reading and learning but I admit I dont know jack. Some things I have liked in my searching..

I7 4770 processor?
A motherboard with wireless capabilities? I like the look of the asus sabertooth
Noctua dh14
16gb of ram that doesnt interfere with above cpu cooler. (i read that this could be an issue??)
either 2 770s or 1 780 and eventually goto 2 780?
would like to hyperthread capable since it seems thats the future?
what is this thunderbolt?
I really like the Thermaltake level 10 gt case.. (just looks sweet.. willing to pay a little more for a unique case that will have no issues getting everything in and look nice inside.. wire management , toolless etc..)
definitely want a good ssd.. this is my dream machine i dont want to be waiting on it :) 
I do need a sweet keyboard and mouse..
I would like and extra large hard drive
and i would like a blu ray drive.

As I mentioned I am pretty stupid when it comes to all this but I am smart and after watching a few vids think I can handle building. I'm not interested in water cooling as if a leak happens and ruins my dream machine i will be devastated. So that is out.
Here are the questions answered

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: within the month.

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) 2000-3000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: games, bluray, home theatre, videos, online sports, office (I have this)

Are you buying a monitor: I have a 50 inch that will be used when I play games but if there is something i want to watch i would like 1 good monitor available to use


Do you need to buy OS: no.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:newegg amazon tiger

Location: united states plains

Parts Preferences: intel

Overclocking: Yes i would like to do a little.. nothing extreme

SLI or Crossfire: maybe eventually

Your Monitor Resolution: whatever recommended at least 1080 for my 50 inch

Additional Comments: future proof is the key for me.. this needs to last probably more than most.. i little eye candy would be neat. quality quality quality

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: this is just a chance i have to get this done.. ive waited so long.

Thanks for taking the time to read all this and would love to hear the varying responses and opinions and there are so many knowledgeable people here.

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August 15, 2013 6:12:42 PM

well what games you'r gonna play on it?
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August 15, 2013 6:17:38 PM

thasan1 said:
well what games you'r gonna play on it?


Ill play a little of everything.. Just depends whats hot at the moment.. Ive played mmos, fps, sports, rts pretty much everything if the game is rated that good. I dont buy games that often but what I do is almost always buy the "highly anticipated" game regardless of game style and genre.

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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2013 6:47:15 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thasan1/saved/2bi6 ok here is one, it should max out all those games at 2560 x 1440p, but just to make sure ill check the benchmarks. my original plan was to add 2 GTx 780 but even with a cheap mobo it would go over 200$ than your budget.

specs:


Total: $2500
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Combo or $339.99
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM $74.99
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Combo or $255.31
Memory : G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $119.00
Storage :Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD $434.99
HDD :Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.99
Video Card : 2x EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB $408.99 [2 way SLI]
Case : NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower $99.84
Power Supply:Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V $104.99
Monitor: Samsung S23A700D 120Hz 23.0" Monitor $228.05
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August 15, 2013 7:00:30 PM

Interesting.. Couple questions I have.. does the sabertooth have the wireless capabilities? I couldnt find that in product descriptions.. will the ripjaws be compatible with the cpu cooler.. i dont know much about the cooler my buddy just said his rocked so i wanted it :)  is 1600 enough on the ram? seems like there are 3 higher options? other than that it all looks very sweet i probably would only need a 24 inch monitor.. maybe.. maybe not haha.. hmm lot to think about here..
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2013 7:18:16 PM

i guess it doesn't. you could add a wireless connector card if you want, there is a PCIe X1 connector at the top which you can use.

ram shouldn't be a problem, its on ram compability list of noctuas. plus its 2 X 8 GB so just use another slot if it uses the first one.

now for the monitor, as ive seen from the GTX 770 review most of the games played on its 2 way SLI config are over 60 FPS [exception: crysis 3 & far cry 3 but 1000$ GTX titan SLI couldn't also get over 60 fps mark].
so if you want to play games comfortably with out screen tearing then id recommend using a 120Hz 1080 monitor. so im changing the parts list with a monitor of samsung if its ok with you [and taking out the Asus 27" one]
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August 15, 2013 7:25:33 PM

thasan1 thanks a bunch for this.. it all looks awesome im so excited.. im gonna give this a little time as i would be interested to see some others opinions... Thanks so much for spending the time to do this.
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August 15, 2013 10:47:30 PM

thasan1 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thasan1/saved/2bi6 ok here is one, it should max out all those games at 2560 x 1440p, but just to make sure ill check the benchmarks. my original plan was to add 2 GTx 780 but even with a cheap mobo it would go over 200$ than your budget.

specs:


Total: $2500
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Combo or $339.99
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM $74.99
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Combo or $255.31
Memory : G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $119.00
Storage :Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD $434.99
HDD :Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $59.99
Video Card : 2x EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB $408.99 [2 way SLI]
Case : NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower $99.84
Power Supply:Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V $104.99
Monitor: Samsung S23A700D 120Hz 23.0" Monitor $228.05


Whoa, you do not need an SSD that expensive. That's just wasteful. You have to keep in mind that SSDs slow down after you load them over a certain capacity. You're also throwing money away on the Sabertooth, the i7, and 16GB of RAM. That system will not add up to $2500, you'll be spending way more than that. And with a $2500 budget why settle for 1080P?

I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($404.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($404.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($197.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1909.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-16 01:46 EDT-0400)

I know the 1KW PSU isn't really necessary but this is currently one of the best power supplies on the market and uses a Super Flower controller - one of the highest quality you can get. That leaves you with $600 to add a nice 1440P monitor, mechanical keyboard, and whatever mouse you want.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 16, 2013 2:12:24 AM

@g-unit1111 ive picked a large SSD as op wanted it.so i thought why not 512Gb if he's budget allow's it.same thing with thing i7 and mobo and ram. it is his first build so i thought why not get the flashiest parts :D  but if he wants to go with these parts then it should give him better bang for his buck.

i also wanted a 25600x1440p res but most of the games run'ed around 80-110 FPS run with GtX 770 SLI. and with a 60Hz monitor i though it would be a problem as there might be screen tearing. but if he wants to go with 27" 1440p montor then he can use vsync i guess.

but the PSU seem's nice and since he's overclocking it should give him a good headroom.so yeah i think he should stay with it.

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August 16, 2013 7:25:21 AM

Oka couple things when looking at the both of these.. I think a 256 GB SSD Is about the right price for me. I do want to pay for a "eye candy" case.. Is there a reason neither of you like the thermaltake one I suggested? Just curious.. I don't mind paying for a little look.. A little anyways.. haha . I have to say I definitely don't want a water cooler.. I am chicken I admit. I don't want to chance leaks.. How come everyone goes with 1600 ram and not the higher 1833, 2100,2400? Is something wrong with the higher amounts?? I definitely want a blu ray drive as I mentioned this will also be used for home theater. and finally would it be smarter to go with one 780 card right now and sli later versus going with the sli now and 2 770s? Thanks again guys this is great information.. I m learning alot.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 16, 2013 8:13:26 AM

if you think 256gb is enough then you should go with it. if you like the thermaltake case then go with it, i mean its your build we are just helping you pick the important things on which the build's performance depend. eye candy is a matter of personal opinion.
i persornally like the NZXT one for its cool, futuristic look. its also very quite, and you will get good airflow with it.

and there is no reason to panic when it com'es to water cooler.they are quite safe. since they are a closed loop cooler, the water is filled from the factory and is tested there. so there is less chance for a leak.

the reason everyone uses 1600mhz ram cause its the sweetspot for ram nowadays,you know good price performance ratio (i think). ram is generally a minor factor when it comes to performance so anything over 1600 or even 1333 is just a waste of cash.

a single GTX 780 is a good option too. it should be aaround 15-20% slower than 2 GTX 770's. but you will still get 60+ FPS in most games. plus they will also consume less power.

also add a blu ray player if you want. again it is your build.
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August 16, 2013 9:41:28 AM

thasan1 said:
@g-unit1111 ive picked a large SSD as op wanted it.so i thought why not 512Gb if he's budget allow's it.same thing with thing i7 and mobo and ram. it is his first build so i thought why not get the flashiest parts :D  but if he wants to go with these parts then it should give him better bang for his buck.


It's just not necessary. SSDs can replace hard drives but they aren't ideal because like I said they slow down after you load them above 80% capacity. Really most people just load OS and main programs on theirs (like I do) and they're done with the drives. You do not come out ahead purchasing a 512GB SSD because the cost per GB is incredibly high compared to a 128GB / 1TB setup. That is ideal. But you don't need the flashiest parts either - get what's practical and pour the rest into getting the best GPU you can get. That's where it counts. For the money right now, nothing really beats a pair of 770s, but that will change with the Radeon 8XXX series.

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i also wanted a 25600x1440p res but most of the games run'ed around 80-110 FPS run with GtX 770 SLI. and with a 60Hz monitor i though it would be a problem as there might be screen tearing. but if he wants to go with 27" 1440p montor then he can use vsync i guess.


Screen tearing? I have never heard of such problems when running SLI.

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Is there a reason neither of you like the thermaltake one I suggested?


Thermaltake makes a lot of overpriced junk, and the Level 10 is no exception. Me personally I'd much rather go for practical than flashy - I've used "flashy" cases that fall apart really easily.

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also add a blu ray player if you want. again it is your build.


Not really necessary either. The software is crazy expensive, and games will never use the format. Everything is moving toward cloud computing and online distribution - Steam, Origin, iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, HBO GO, I could go on and on.
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