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August 17, 2013 5:12:03 PM

Hello, there!

I'm looking to build a system for the first time. In the past, I've typically researched components and bought through cyberpowerinc, but I've decided to ditch the middleman and assemble my next PC by myself. I now I'm coming to a great place, because I've used Toms Hardware for advice since I began learning about computers in the early 2000's.

I'm looking for a somewhat budget gaming PC. That is--I don't necessarily care to OC...I just want to build a solid rig that will be future-proof and will last for at least 5 years. I'm not looking for the highest-end system, nor am I looking for a "budget" system. I'm looking for something in between, with an emphasis on price vs. value. I game quite often, but don't necessarily desire the "best of the best"...I just want something that is on the mid-high range, and will last for years to come.

I've been poring over pc hardware reviews, technical specs, etc, for about 24+ hours this week (I tend to get obsessive). The best I can come up with is the following:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1t6zo

Do any of you fine gentleman and ladies notice any issues with this build? Note that I already own the 560 Ti GPU, and am planning to use it for my build. Yes--it is somewhat old, but I figure when it really starts showing it's age, I will upgrade.

Also, I found out that a Microcenter near me is selling 4770k's for $280 as opposed to Amazon and Newegg's $340. Additionally, they offer a discount if I buy the processor and the MB listed in this spec in a bundle. I have the option to upgrade to the sabertooth MB, but I just don't think it will be worth what I'm shooting for.

Bottom line - I'm expecting to pay roughly $1300 USD for this setup.

Is this a good deal? Any thoughts on what I can do better would be graciously appreciated. My current rig is quite old--Windows XP with an AMD dual core and no SSD.

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August 17, 2013 5:16:29 PM

$1300 but your price in pcpartpicker is @ 1550
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August 17, 2013 5:24:06 PM

If its for gaming the 4770k offers no advantage over the i5-4670k.
If you want a rig that will last long, why not go for a nice IPS monitor?
If you can find a cheap 560Ti (like a second hand one off eBay or craigslist) to SLI with your current card, that would be a nice upgrade in terms of graphics.
If its for gaming, then 8GB is overkill, nevermind 16GB.
7200RPM HDD instead of the 5400RPM one you chose.
a full tower phantom (personal preference on this one really xD )
Windows 7 home premium instead of Pro, because which features of pro do you need?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-17 20:20 EDT-0400)

Just a friendly suggestion :) 

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sparkz89 said:
$1300 but your price in pcpartpicker is @ 1550


He already owns the 560Ti and can source the 4770k for cheaper through microcenter.
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August 17, 2013 5:26:34 PM

It looks decent. As you said you'll just need to upgrade your graphics card later. probably 1300's after you discount that 560ti you already own and get your bundle.
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August 17, 2013 5:30:41 PM

heres how id do it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1t9pE

-at micro, you could get the i5 for a fair bit cheaper. as for the i7 vs i5, by the time the i7 actually is going to make a huge difference, either way you are playing at medium settings. makes no sense to get one
-better motherboard
-8gb of ram is perfectly fine for gaming. no reason to get 16gb. futureproofing in this department is futile.
-cheaper SSD that performs the same in real life. you arent going to notice any differences so why pay more
-by next year, your 560ti will be only playing high settings in the latest games and a year after that, you are sitting at medium settings. id highly suggest pairing current gen CPUs and GPUs together
-the corsair unit is the same, just that its slightly larger (extra wattage is not needed) and that it costs way more for the same psu inside
-windows pro has no benefits
-get a better panel. this one will last much longer as the stand is much more robust
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August 17, 2013 5:34:48 PM

Unless you need hyper - threading for some reason would drop to the 4670K, also on the DRAM would look for a better set maybe something in 1866/9. 1600/CL9 is entry level and 1600 with CL10 is even below that....also for gaming 8GB should suffice, and again unless there's a need, Win7 Pro may be overkill, Home Premium supports up to 16GB which should suffice
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August 17, 2013 6:10:56 PM

First, thank you all for your well-detailed responses.

Processor: I'm convinced now that the 4670k is a better choice than the 4770k. This change should save me at least $80. My original thought with the 4770k was "eh, 80 bucks isn't much to spend on the 47770k bs. 4670k, so why not?". However, it sounds that even though that is not a lot of cash, I won't be gaining much by it. My only question is; would the 4770k be any more future-proof to warrant the extra $80 as opposed to the 4670k?

Secondary Hard Drive: I'm not sure, why, but PC Part Picker lists the HD at 5400. However, Amazon.com lists the same model # HD as 7200 RPM. I'm not sure why that is. The bottom line is that I'm looking for a good "storage" secondary HD to compliment the SSD.

Monitor: IPS looks good. Honestly, I didn't put a lot of thought into a monitor, and that might another item I buy sometime in the future. I currently have a Samsung 226BW monitor that is beginning to show the notorious flickering after the 3-year point. It sounds like IPS monitor might be a good investment--I'll watch the prices on those in the future.

OS/Memory: I went with Pro simply because it appears that I can upgrade my memory past 16GB in the future. I do know that 8GB is plenty for everything coming out nowadays, but...it's so cheap, so why not? Maybe in 4-5 years, games will run better on 16GB or 32GB RAM? This is just one of those things that I look and and think "It's so cheap, why not?"

SSD: Thanks, Mr. TheBigTroll. Didn't know about taht SSD. I think I'll add it in.

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August 17, 2013 6:19:07 PM

it doesnt make it any more futureproof. by the time it makes a big difference, that difference wont get you far enough to upgrade from medium settings to high settings. in the end its a waste of time unless you do actual work that invovles multiple threads

partslist has everything

memory isnt cheap. in fact, if you bought memory in december, you could have easily picked up a kit of 2x4 for 25 bucks or a 2x8 for 60. by the time you need more memory, the hardware itself will be slow enough to make you get a new rig altogether

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August 18, 2013 4:53:23 AM

As others have already mentioned:

By the time the 8 threads will help, there will be so much better out there that the money you saved would have been better off in an upgrade. So no the 4770k won't be useful in gaming anytime soon or in the near future.

That HDD is not 7200RPM as many amazon buyers discovered:
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The speed of this drive is not 7,200 RPM as stated in the product description. It's speed is actually "IntelliPower(tm)", Western Digital's marketing-speak specification for its speed, which is actually 5,400 RPM with some "additional technology" built in to make it "more efficient."

If you're okay with a 5,400 RPM drive, this appears to be a good one, although I've only been running it for a few days. If you want a 7,200 RPM drive, don't buy this one. I wish I had understood all of this before I installed the drive, operating system, and all my software.


When you switch from TN panels to IPS panels you can really tell (from personal experience anyway), the viewing angles are just fantastic, IPS was always meant to be the advancement on TN panels, its just that they used to cost so much that noone used to buy them, nowadays they still cost more, but nowhere near as much as they used to cost.

With the OS thing, in 4-5 years time, would you nt have upgraded from windows 7 to windows 9 (or whatever it'll be called) ?

Just some food for thought.
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