Is 60 degrees Celsius too hot for an idle CPU?

You might want to get some artic silver and remount your CPU and see if that helps. You will have to wipe off the old thermal compound to apply the new stuff.

I think that an aftermarker cooler might help. Cause right now, the problem is that you got a factory overclocked GPU, that runs hotter than it usually does, a power supply that might be enough but that probably runs at its maximum power, and some RAM that runs pretty fast. All of it in a case that doesn't really make anything crazy about cooling. 60 degrees isn't a normal temperature for an idle CPU, but in your case, in my opinion, it isn't about any defective part.

Even with a stock AMD heatsink you should not see 60 deg C at idle, unless you OC'ed your processor.

A. Shut your machine down, and check to make sure you have affixed the stock AMD heatsink properly/firmly to the mobo - there should be no significant/loose play.

B. How is your case air flow. You should have at least one INTAKE and one EXHAUST fan - minimum.

My CPU is not overlcocked neither stock or by me or anyone else. I only have one stock interior 120mm rear fan that already came attached with my NZXT Source 210 case. The CPU is forsure mounted correctly and everything. Stock voktage running through it. I havent messed with any of that stuff

DarkDubzs said:

My CPU is not overlcocked neither stock or by me or anyone else. I only have one stock interior 120mm rear fan that already came attached with my NZXT Source 210 case. The CPU is forsure mounted correctly and everything. Stock voktage running through it. I havent messed with any of that stuff

In that case, your AMD stock heatsink FAN should be screaming at something like 4000 RPM, unless the fan is defective.

Do you have a high ambient room temperature by any chance? Use HWMonintor (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) to see if your case's internal temp is too high, by looking at the component tesmp's, in addition to our CPU. In my case I have two (2) GTX 660 which idle at around 28-33 deg C, depending on the ambient room temp of course.

I would recommend to add (2) INTAKE (120mm) fans (or at least one) at the front of your case to provide positive case pressure, which should result in better heat dissipation/venting.

Anonymous said:

DarkDubzs said:

My CPU is not overlcocked neither stock or by me or anyone else. I only have one stock interior 120mm rear fan that already came attached with my NZXT Source 210 case. The CPU is forsure mounted correctly and everything. Stock voktage running through it. I havent messed with any of that stuff

In that case, your AMD stock heatsink FAN should be screaming at something like 4000 RPM, unless the fan is defective.

Do you have a high ambient room temperature by any chance? Use HWMonintor (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) to see if your case's internal temp is too high, by looking at the component tesmp's, in addition to our CPU. In my case I have two (2) GTX 660 which idle at around 28-33 deg C, depending on the ambient room temp of course.

I would recommend to add (2) INTAKE (120mm) fans (or at least one) at the front of your case to provide positive case pressure, which should result in better heat dissipation/venting.

When idle, its really whisper quiet, but when im playing games, it gets noticeable; or even gets screaming loud if i close the door to the tower section thing of my computer desk. I dont know which fan is the loudest whether its the cpu heatsink, gpu fan, psu fan, case fan. I was thinking of adding a 120mm fan to the side of my NZXT Source 210 case and maybe one on top, maybe this fan: here, just not sure if its intake or exhaust. Would that help? The room temperature is usually not hot at all, warm at the most down here in SoCal.

DarkDubzs said:

Anonymous said:

DarkDubzs said:

My CPU is not overlcocked neither stock or by me or anyone else. I only have one stock interior 120mm rear fan that already came attached with my NZXT Source 210 case. The CPU is forsure mounted correctly and everything. Stock voktage running through it. I havent messed with any of that stuff

In that case, your AMD stock heatsink FAN should be screaming at something like 4000 RPM, unless the fan is defective.

Do you have a high ambient room temperature by any chance? Use HWMonintor (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) to see if your case's internal temp is too high, by looking at the component tesmp's, in addition to our CPU. In my case I have two (2) GTX 660 which idle at around 28-33 deg C, depending on the ambient room temp of course.

I would recommend to add (2) INTAKE (120mm) fans (or at least one) at the front of your case to provide positive case pressure, which should result in better heat dissipation/venting.

When idle, its really whisper quiet, but when im playing games, it gets noticeable; or even gets screaming loud if i close the door to the tower section thing of my computer desk. I dont know which fan is the loudest whether its the cpu heatsink, gpu fan, psu fan, case fan. I was thinking of adding a 120mm fan to the side of my NZXT Source 210 case and maybe one on top, maybe this fan: here, just not sure if its intake or exhaust. Would that help? The room temperature is usually not hot at all, warm at the most down here in SoCal.

1. So now you tell us the critical detail. Well, I think there is your problem right there. You're basically "hot-boxing" your tower inside your desk's computer enclosure. Not only are you starving the case from access to fresh are, but you are also preventing it from proper hot air dissipation. Let me give you an example: What do you think will happen if you sit inside a closet with a hairdrier that is plug into an electrical outlet and you turn it ON, and you close the closet door(s)? I don't think you will be a happy camper inside that closet after a half an hour. Now, that is what you are doing to your computer and the components inside the case. No fresh air in, and very poor hot air dissipation; more like, the hot exhausted air is just recirculated inside the desk enclosure.

2. Fan wise, you can get any 120mm case fan, there really is not "intake" vs "exhaust", that was only a reference relative to your case. Where the front of the case is usually the "intake" and the back and/or top is the "exhaust", for optimal (cool to hot) air flow and heat dissipation. Here are some of my fan recommendations:
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553001&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103052

3. If you can, take your case and put in on top of you desk or at least remove that door from the desk enclosure.

Anonymous said:

DarkDubzs said:

Anonymous said:

DarkDubzs said:

My CPU is not overlcocked neither stock or by me or anyone else. I only have one stock interior 120mm rear fan that already came attached with my NZXT Source 210 case. The CPU is forsure mounted correctly and everything. Stock voktage running through it. I havent messed with any of that stuff

In that case, your AMD stock heatsink FAN should be screaming at something like 4000 RPM, unless the fan is defective.

Do you have a high ambient room temperature by any chance? Use HWMonintor (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) to see if your case's internal temp is too high, by looking at the component tesmp's, in addition to our CPU. In my case I have two (2) GTX 660 which idle at around 28-33 deg C, depending on the ambient room temp of course.

I would recommend to add (2) INTAKE (120mm) fans (or at least one) at the front of your case to provide positive case pressure, which should result in better heat dissipation/venting.

When idle, its really whisper quiet, but when im playing games, it gets noticeable; or even gets screaming loud if i close the door to the tower section thing of my computer desk. I dont know which fan is the loudest whether its the cpu heatsink, gpu fan, psu fan, case fan. I was thinking of adding a 120mm fan to the side of my NZXT Source 210 case and maybe one on top, maybe this fan: here, just not sure if its intake or exhaust. Would that help? The room temperature is usually not hot at all, warm at the most down here in SoCal.

1. So now you tell us the critical detail. Well, I think there is our problem right there, you're basically "hot-boxing" your tower inside your desk's computer enclosure. Not only are you starving the case from access to fresh are, but you are also preventing it from proper hot air dissipation. Let me give you an example: What do you think will happen if you sit inside a closet with a hairdrier that is plug into an electrical outlet and you turn it ON, and you close the closet door(s)? I don't think you will be a happy camper inside that closet after a half an hour. Now, that is what you are doing to your computer and the components inside the case. No fresh air in, and very poor hot air dissipation; more like, the hot exhausted air is just recirculated inside the desk enclosure.

2. Fan wise, you can get any 120mm case fan, there really is not "intake" vs "exhaust", that was only a reference relative to your case. Where the front of the case is usually the "intake" and the back and/or top is the "exhaust", for optimal (cool to hot) air flow and heat dissipation.

3. I you can, take your case and put in on top of you desk or at least remove that door from the desk enclosure.

The only time i close the door is when im just doing light things like web surfing or basically anything besides gaming that wont make any of the fans go up much above idle speeds, sound wise. When i game or the fans tell me its getting hot in that box, i open the door. It still has the open air back of the desk, there is no "back" to my desk that is pushed against a wall, but theres about an inch or a few of space which is basically an exit for all the hot air, its not like the case is in a closed box.

I was also gonna ask, how would air get in if i put fans on the front of the case, because wouldnt the front panel block any air from going in? The case i have says in the specs that you can put two fans on the front, but i dont see where.

60 degrees idle is way too hot I get 25 idle using stock. Try re-applying the thermal paste and see what happens.

xSoulMonsterx said:

60 degrees idle is way too hot I get 25 idle using stock. Try re-applying the thermal paste and see what happens.

I didnt apply thermal paste, it came pre-applied onto the stock fan where it makes contact with the cpu

Well, you are still hot-boxing your case. Do an experiment for a day and use HWMonitor to first look at the temp's when it's inside the enclosure, then take your case out of the desk enclosure and put it on top of your desk; then use it as you would for surfing and gaming. And then check the temp's with HWMonitor.

Back of your tower enclosure might be open, however it will still not provide proper air flow and an inch of space is not enough to properly dissipate heat from the inside of the desk enclosure; as a good portion of the hot air that is exhausted is simply recirculating the hot air back into the case.

Anyway, most computer cases have the front of the case removable, where all you have to do is grab the bottom of the plastic front and pull like shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESzjZOiY9ZA, though I am not 100% about the NZXT Source 210. I would make sure by contacting NZXT.

DarkDubzs said:

xSoulMonsterx said:

60 degrees idle is way too hot I get 25 idle using stock. Try re-applying the thermal paste and see what happens.

I didnt apply thermal paste, it came pre-applied onto the stock fan where it makes contact with the cpu

If you don't find another solution buy some cheap thermal paste and reapply it.

Did you take the CPU fan off after you had booted the system for the first time?

xSoulMonsterx said:

Did you take the CPU fan off after you had booted the system for the first time?

Nope, never done anything else after building the rig except add a GTX 660 SC gpu

Run Prime95 and see what your temps are. I'm not familiar with the max temps of your cpu, but if the temps stay under 80 degrees celsius you should be fine using your computer, just don't overclock without a aftermarket cpu fan.