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Well I bet lots of people come here and ask stupid questions to get many opinions. But here I am looking for plenty of opinions but please respect that I may or may not take your advice on what components or brands to go with. I have unfortunately already started buying some stuff and I will link the complete build from pcpartpicker and what I have left. Yes if you make a valid point I may return something I already bought and swap it out. Okay on to what it will be used for!

Basically the ideal plan is to use it to watch TV and hd movies, and have it hooked up to a 46" 1080p TV. A few concerns with the build is how it will perform on a 46" tv. If needed Ill just get a decent monitor instead and just use the tv for movies/tv. No I don't need a TV tuner as I will be watching from hulu/netflix type of thing. I am into gaming but its not a hardcore gaming thing. Just on the weekends and a couple ours here and there during the week. Games ATM include The Last of Us which I am playing on PS3 but intend on swapping to PC. Maybe some WoW, Have not played since WotLK. Possibly some Aion, FFIV, and what ever else I intend on playing. But mainly TLoU. I am looking at spending 1000-1200 on the system and that must include OS, mouse, keyboard. I'm not sure about OC'ing it, would need opinions on that as well. I would say I am an above average person when it comes to computers, but I do not know a lot when it comes to bios play and OC'ing. Either way I am hoping this build lasts me 3-5 years.

Here is the full build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1timr

I do not care about front panel USB 3.0 ports. If I had the choice Id have the CM storm stryker case. But wasn't in the budget unless someone can minimize the budget. And honestly I will probably pick up the mouse/keyboard from ebay on the cheap. I am used to those not lasting me a year anyways and cheap but decent is okay in my book.

Here is what is left for my build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1sW0m

As you see I have left the biggest parts for last, as I am still not sure on the graphics card. The one I have picked is the dual-x version, From what I have read it is one of the best for OC'ing, So I am trying to leave the option open if it is worth it to OC it. I am pretty stuck on the 8350 though. I wanted to go water cooled but did not see a reason to so I grabbed a cheap CPU cooler for now, with the 6 120mm case fans on the case I do not think it will be an issue for now. I have thought about fan placement with the case and would like to ask opinions on that. The case has 6 120 fans. 1 from factory in front. 1 spot for one just under that in front. 2 on top. 1 on the side. 1 on the back. Not to mention it has a filter for the PSU fan as well. Here is my thoughts on placement.

2 in front and the one on the side will be intakes, with the 2 top and the back being exhaust. The one on the side will be directly across from the CPU cooler.

Again, Any and all opinions and criticisms will be appreciated. This is my 2nd build ever and the first one was 6 years ago. It ran strong till recently when the GPU and PSU started failing. I have spent hours on google with this build and hope I am at the least, going in the right direction.
 
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that psu is horrible! the gpu is kind of over priced, get the new gtx 760 which performs much better. you don't need windows professional unless you need more than 16gb of ram or need the special professional features. so you should return the psu and get these parts :
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)...
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that psu is horrible! the gpu is kind of over priced, get the new gtx 760 which performs much better. you don't need windows professional unless you need more than 16gb of ram or need the special professional features. so you should return the psu and get these parts :
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($38.50 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $681.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-18 07:03 EDT-0400)

also you don't need the fx-8350 unless your using professional programs which use all of it's threads.

if your willing to return the psu, case and cooler, you could get the case you wanted and water cooling as well :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($38.50 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1131.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-18 07:19 EDT-0400)

 
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Ill take your advice on the PSU, but what is wrong with it? May I ask why the change in the GPU? Its only a 10$ price difference right now and I'm hoping to catch it on sale. I had nvidia in the old computer and it lasted 5 years. But I have heard a lot about the the radeon. But everyone keeps screaming nvidia at me. So I may do that. Also would I see performance loss going from the 8350 to the 6300. I thought about doing the 6300 anyways but seen a lot of good reviews on the 8350-8320. You make a valid point on the OS, I will get the premium instead.

The HD I got already. Found it brand new on ebay still in sealed box. Got it for 35$, can not beat that! Oh and I should add that I will be playing Skyrim. But obviously you think the mobo is okay, as with the ram. I know everyone has been going with G. Skill, but from my research the corsair ranks higher. I think if I go down to the 6300 I could afford the case. But the question is, would water cooled even be needed with this rig not running sli/crossfire?
 
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Buying a raidmax PSU is a mortal sin. Get a good PSU that tells you the available power on its 12V rails and not just the combined total power. Something like the seasonic or xfx would be plenty for your system, and is far higher quality than the raidmax unit. Raidmax PSU's have a reputation as cheap power supplies that turn into expensive firecrackers and kill systems.

the 760 is cheaper and better than the 7950, it is comparable to a non-oc 7970.

no performance should be lost by going for the 6300. not many programs use 6 cores,let alone 8. with the h100 you can easily oc it quite high and should give you 8350-esque performance on games.

you got that hdd cheap.

with the money you saved on that you could get the excellent (if dated) NZXT 810 gunmetal or the HAF X (just saying)
 
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Alright, Ill change to the 6300. And would the 6300 be the choice over the 6200 or 6350?. And when I get the PSU Ill ship it back and grab the seasonic. I guess Ill go with the nvidia card over the radeon card. Would it be a better idea to go with the 4gb version of the evga? Its 50$ more but I like the case I have for now. I don't HAVE to change it out.
 
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the 6350 is too close to the 8320 price wise and it is just an oc'd 6300.
The FX-6300 is obviously better, since it's from the piledriver architecture, the FX-6200 is from the older bulldozer architecture.

if you plan running a multi-monitor setup the extra video ram will be helpful especially if you ever plan to upgrade to a high resolution monitor like 2560x1440.If you're talking about 50 dollar difference between the 2 and 4gb. The 2gb seems like the best value for money.
 
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The 6350 is only 10$ more then the 6300. If in fact it is better, Why not get it instead. And I would like to run multi-monitor setup eventually. And even get a better monitor. Like I said I plan to try and run it on a 46 inch 1080p tv. I do not know how well that will work. The question is will the set up your saying go with ever give me issues running games at max settings with decent frame rates?

Edit- If I go with just the 2gb card, should I go with the reg one or the OC version for 10$ more?
 
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okay you can get the 6350. it will give you more oc headroom i guess.

if you want a multi monitor setup in the future get the 760 4gb,preferably a gigabyte model. (remember, when you go multi monitor in the future, to try and pick up another 760 4gb and go sli)

if your tv or future monitor is 1080p, you will be able to run most games at 50~70 fps on max settings.

remember, this is not a flagship card, so i wouldn't get my hopes up for decent frame rates on next gen games on ultra/max setting. if you see your performance going down in the future oc you gpu,cpu and buy another 760 for sli.
 
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Thanks for all the advice! I will get the 6350, change to the 760 2gb, already sent the psu out to be swapped. Now you say get the gigabyte model for the 4gb card. Is that the same for the 2gb card? Cause you listed evga earlier. Ive always like the cooler on the MSI and Gigabyte anyways.
 
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i listed the the evga for evga with acx cooler because the cooler is nice and the cost is not much more than a reference card.

on the other hand if you want to spend more on a 4gb card, why not go all the way by spending some more and getting a gigabyte or msi gpu with a non reference pcb (the evga ones are mostly reference).

if you wan't to spend 20 ¬ 50 dollars more for a quality gpu, the following are good choices :msi lightning, msi twin frozr IV, asus directCU 2, gigabyte windforce x3, evga acx, gainward phantom.

now, some of the evga boards may have great cooling but they have non-custom/reference board, unlike the msi lightning (excellent), Asus DCUII TOP (also excellent), gigabyte windforce X3 (great). i'm not saying the acx board is bad, it's just that it can't compete with a card like the lightning, which offers great cooling and pcb design.

but there is no dcuII top or lightning edition for the 760, but there is the MSI N760 HAWK (basically a lightning)

when it comes down to the different 760 models, heres what i would get (in descending order) :

1)msi n760 hawk
2)asus dcuII 760 or 2)msi 760 TF
3)evga acx 760 or 2)gigabyte windforce X3 760

these are all good cards but the differentiator is your preference and budget.


 
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I think I want to go with the Gigabyte card. I think Ill be suited just fine with the 2gb card. If I ever have a FPS issue, then Ill just go sli or do some OC tweaking. But there are 2 different Gigabyte cards I am looking at. What would be your choice?

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB REV2 Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)

Both are OC versions and from the pics I can tell the fans are kind of different but I am not sure why one is 10$ more.
 
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i don't know. i'd get the rev.2 as it's branded Windforce X3, but really it's upto you.
 
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Yeah. Ill just grab it. It dropped 10$ yesterday. Im set now. Although I did send the ram back today. Going to get the same ram but in the blue. That red would look way out of place! I think I'm done now. Tomorrow I will buy the CPU and GPU. Then finish off the rest of the build next week. Ill take pics of it all and let you know how it turned out! Thanks for all your help!
 
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good to hear! would love to see a completed build!
 
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