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August 19, 2013 3:57:18 AM

Hello everyone!

My pc is about 4 yo and I wanted to upgrade it. My budget is between 600 and 800 € (about 800-1000 $) and I wanted to ask for you help in deciding if the components I am interested in are good or if there is something better I can do.

The components I have right now are:

Case: ANTEC NINE HUNDRED TWO V3
MoBo: ASRock H55M Pro - Mainboard - Mikro-ATX
HD : 4x Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 8,9 cm (3,5 Zoll) SATA intern Harddisk(7200RPM, 32MB Cache)
Proc: Intel Core i5-750 Ci5 Box (2,66GHz; 8 MB Cache, 1156, 4.8 GT/s)
RAM: OCZ OCZ3P1333LV6GK PC1333 RAM 6 GB DDR3 RAM Triple Channel Kit, CL7, 3 x 2 GB
GC: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5770 Graphic card (PCI-e, 1GB GDDR5 Speicher, HDMI, DVI, 1 GPU)
Power: CORSAIR TX650

I never tried OC, but I might want to try it out.
These are the components I wanted to buy:

MoBo: MSI Z77A-GD65 (G3) Sockel 1155 Mainboard (ATX, Intel Z77, 4x DDR3, DVI-D, HDMI, VGA, 2x SATA III, 2x USB 3.0)
Proc: Intel Core i5 3350P Processor (3,1GHz, Sockel 1155, 6MB Cache)
GC: MSI NVIDIA GTX N660 Grafikkarte (PCI-e, 2GB GDDR5 Speicher, 2x DVI, HDMI, Displayport, 1 GPU)
RAM: 2x Corsair Vengeance RAM (PC1600, 8GB, CL9) DDR3-RAM
HD: 1x Samsung 840 Series Basic intern SSD-HD 250GB (6,4 cm (2,5 Zoll), 512MB Cache, SATA III)

I am not really sure about the Processor and the graphic card, what do you think?
I mostly use the PC for Gaming (Starcraft, DOTA2, Total war series ROME 2 is coming out! :D ) and streaming.

Thank you so much!

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August 19, 2013 4:23:13 AM

I would get a GTX 760 (the 660s are poor value now) and see how it runs, and try to overclock, if you still think you need a cpu get the i5 later. Also note you RAM should run it dual channel (& cannot run in triple) so you may get better performance running just 2 sticks.
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August 19, 2013 4:41:50 AM

Regardless of which of the graphics cards you plan on getting. I would definitely try only upgrading the graphics card first. If it seems like it doesn't provide you with the gaming experience you are looking for then look to upgrade the other components.

Obviously getting an SSD for your OS drive is still a good plan even if you would only run it in Sata 2 mode on your existing machine, you would STILL see sizeable improvements in responsiveness of your machine.
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August 19, 2013 5:00:03 AM

simon12 said:
I would get a GTX 760 (the 660s are poor value now) and see how it runs, and try to overclock, if you still think you need a cpu get the i5 later. Also note you RAM should run it dual channel (& cannot run in triple) so you may get better performance running just 2 sticks.


Thank you, I also looked up the GTX 760 so now I think I´ll go for that one. Is there any difference among Gainward, ASUS, Gygabyte, MSI ? They are all 760, some have an "N" before the number (N760)..
I definetely want to replace both MoBo and CPU. Is the i5 3350P a good choice? I read that for gaming i7 are not that much better as very few games use hyperthread. Or are there better one?

" Also note you RAM should run it dual channel (& cannot run in triple) so you may get better performance running just 2 sticks" What do you mean?
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August 19, 2013 4:13:59 PM

Different makes of graphics card sometimes have different coolers and have different warranties and accessories (they are not big differences unless you want to overclock the card). The i5 3350P is a good upgrade but you may get most of it from an overclock with a cheap cooler like a 212 Evo. Your motherboard (and one for a 3350P) are designed to run RAM in dual channel mode which requires it to be installed in identical pairs.
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August 20, 2013 12:53:08 AM

simon12 said:
Different makes of graphics card sometimes have different coolers and have different warranties and accessories (they are not big differences unless you want to overclock the card). The i5 3350P is a good upgrade but you may get most of it from an overclock with a cheap cooler like a 212 Evo. Your motherboard (and one for a 3350P) are designed to run RAM in dual channel mode which requires it to be installed in identical pairs.


>>Thank you so much!
Last question. I also looked for the Intel Core i5 4670K. Is it much better than the 3350P? It costs about 70-80$ more...
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August 20, 2013 1:14:23 AM

It has an unlocked multiplier and would let you overclock freely. However it is also a socket 1150 CPU so you would need to change your motherboard to a Z87 based model instead.

Although you probably should do the Z87 switch anyway such as:
MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming
i5-4570
or then the i5-4670K as you listed.

But this all depends on what kind of a deal you are getting, if the i5 3350P and Z77 GD65 is hugely cheaper than the above Z87 GD65 & i5-4570 then it will be just fine for you. Both platforms will provide you with ample power for gaming.
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August 20, 2013 1:41:04 AM

rvilkman said:
It has an unlocked multiplier and would let you overclock freely. However it is also a socket 1150 CPU so you would need to change your motherboard to a Z87 based model instead.

Although you probably should do the Z87 switch anyway such as:
MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming
i5-4570
or then the i5-4670K as you listed.


But this all depends on what kind of a deal you are getting, if the i5 3350P and Z77 GD65 is hugely cheaper than the above Z87 GD65 & i5-4570 then it will be just fine for you. Both platforms will provide you with ample power for gaming.


Well for the 3350P + the Z77 it would be 290€ while for the Z87 + 5670K it would be 374€, so about 100$ difference.. Is it worth it? (btw Z87 + 4570 would be 350€)
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August 20, 2013 2:54:46 AM

Well i'm going to say that the difference is so big that your choices would be i5 3350P and Z77 GD65 or then Z87 GD65 & i5-4670K depending on if you want to spend that extra 85€ and want to overclock or not. Both of them are excellent options.

If overclocking is not your thing just save yourself the 85€ or simply spend the money elsewhere. Like if that same amount buys you a GTX770, that would give you much more benefit for gaming than the unlocked CPU would.

Getting the 1150 platform just for the slightly better upgrade ability at the moment is probably not worth it. ( 60€ is quite a bit for that ) Without spending the extra 25€ for the fully unlocked CPU.


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August 20, 2013 3:05:39 AM

Thank you all so much, this helped me a lot !
I will go with the following:

Intel Core i5 3350P
MSI Z77A-GD65
Gainward 426018336-2999 NVIDIA GeForce GTX760 Phantom
Samsung 840 Series Basic intern SSD 250GB
CoolerMaster HyperTX 3 Evo
Corsair Vengeance Black16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800)

for a total of about 790€

Thank you all again!
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