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August 20, 2013 4:13:44 AM

Hello!

I just got my hands on a used Dell Optiplex 745.
(I am upgrading the RAM to 4gb 800mhz)

I know that the PC is quite low end, but I might be using it as HTPC,
and I have two demands;

1. HDMI output
2. I would like some games to work (Low graphics dont bother me on a secondary PC)

So now I am wondering if this GPU:
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT6101GD3L/

(If I buy it, I get it quite cheap at a local store. It is brand new with warranty)


Fits in my Small Form:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/...


Any help appreciated!


EDIT! Do I need to buy this for the ASUS GPU: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/files/images/82/2_166616-40... ?
August 20, 2013 4:22:49 AM

Update ah, I see its small form factor. That video card wont play games worth a toss, buy something with a better second number, i.e. a 640, because the second number indicates its power for games . 610 is hopeless, 640 will play games on low settings, 650 obviously getting into the zone, 660 , 680 better and better.
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August 20, 2013 4:39:23 AM

chriss000 said:
Update ah, I see its small form factor. That video card wont play games worth a toss, buy something with a better second number, i.e. a 640, because the second number indicates its power for games . 610 is hopeless, 640 will play games on low settings, 650 obviously getting into the zone, 660 , 680 better and better.


I already checked out GT650 and GT630, but they are way out of my budget, it seems like a waste of money to put in this crap PC, the 610 is just in my price range.

Currently the Optiplex is using only 256 MB from the ram memory, dont you think it would be a significant update if the PC would get a GPU with 1GB ddr3 for itself?
Wouldnt the 1ghz CPU bottleneck a 650?

Just asking..

According to the 610 reviews, it is capable of streaming 1080p, BluRay playback, and giving 60 FPS in oldschool games like CS.

EDIT: Thanks for your help and your opinion anyways! :) 
Feel free to add anything or comment!
Would eg. World of Warcraft be playable at lowest graphics?
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August 20, 2013 4:50:45 AM

All the mentions of your system on google indicate a 3 gig early dual core processor, not a 1 gig unit. Please identify and tell us cpu type.
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August 20, 2013 4:56:56 AM

chriss000 said:
All the mentions of your system on google indicate a 3 gig early dual core processor, not a 1 gig unit. Please identify and tell us cpu type.


My mistake, the text was so small in the spreadsheet that I accidentally mixed FSB with CPU speed.
FSB is 1066mhz.

I am sorry to say that I cant connect my PC to any monitor in my house as I only have DVI & HDMI cables.
Ill borrow a VGA cable from my brother to get started and check my CPU.

I know it is a Intel Core 2 Duo, but I cant run CPUZ for the moment.

Thank you for pointing out the CPU speed :) 

Anyways, what about the Nviidia ASUS GT 610 that I linked, is it worth to buy?
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August 20, 2013 5:01:39 AM

On that dell spec sheet the lowest cpu they used is a dual core celery 2.6 gig, that will run a small gpu for games no probs. Its running windows xp so more than 2 gig of ram is wasted. And you need to think about compatibility. Its unlikely the bios will support modern graphics cards, you might have to go back a bit and buy something older. i doubt you can get xp drivers for a lot of new stuff.
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August 20, 2013 5:04:36 AM

chriss000 said:
On that dell spec sheet the lowest cpu they used is a dual core celery 2.6 gig, that will run a small gpu for games no probs. Its running windows xp so more than 2 gig of ram is wasted. And you need to think about compatibility. Its unlikely the bios will support modern graphics cards, you might have to go back a bit and buy something older. i doubt you can get xp drivers for a lot of new stuff.


I was thinking about putting Windows 7 on it. Would you still recommend getting a GT210 instead of a GT610?
(Almost the same price..)

EDIT: QUOTE from the card overview: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Compatible
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August 20, 2013 5:14:44 AM

If its actually a core 2 duo, its powerful enough to run a graphics card way beyond what will fit in that case. On the spreadsheat dell say it will support 6 series c2d's, so hopefully its a e6600. If its much lower than that, you could put one in for about $15. I am using one now and it powers most modern games o.k., but its flat out 100% doing it.
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August 20, 2013 5:19:55 AM

chriss000 said:
If its actually a core 2 duo, its powerful enough to run a graphics card way beyond what will fit in that case. On the spreadsheat dell say it will support 6 series c2d's, so hopefully its a e6600. If its much lower than that, you could put one in for about $15. I am using one now and it powers most modern games o.k., but its flat out 100% doing it.


Thanks for the heads up on the CPU! Ill check it out later and compare to the ones on ebay :p 

Anyways, did you notice thet the Optiplex only have a 275W PSU?
Thank kinda rules out some of the most power demanding GPUS..

I found a Radeon HD 6450 at about the same price as the GT 610, but according tho this thread, the 610 is better:
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121216...

I am leaning towards the 610, but feel free to give any other suggestions!
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August 20, 2013 5:25:53 AM

Ericane said:
chriss000 said:
On that dell spec sheet the lowest cpu they used is a dual core celery 2.6 gig, that will run a small gpu for games no probs. Its running windows xp so more than 2 gig of ram is wasted. And you need to think about compatibility. Its unlikely the bios will support modern graphics cards, you might have to go back a bit and buy something older. i doubt you can get xp drivers for a lot of new stuff.


I was thinking about putting Windows 7 on it. Would you still recommend getting a GT210 instead of a GT610?
(Almost the same price..)

EDIT: QUOTE from the card overview: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Compatible


I run 7 on this E6600, and its superb. However, it is MUCH faster when i use xp, tho that doesnt support some video formats or direct x 10 or 11.
I use it primarily for streaming tv from primewire.ag, and gaming. You will have to decide where to spend your money according to whet you are using it for. The sheet also says it already has a x1300 pro ati graphics card in there. Has somebody removed it?
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August 20, 2013 5:30:09 AM

chriss000 said:
Ericane said:
chriss000 said:
On that dell spec sheet the lowest cpu they used is a dual core celery 2.6 gig, that will run a small gpu for games no probs. Its running windows xp so more than 2 gig of ram is wasted. And you need to think about compatibility. Its unlikely the bios will support modern graphics cards, you might have to go back a bit and buy something older. i doubt you can get xp drivers for a lot of new stuff.


I was thinking about putting Windows 7 on it. Would you still recommend getting a GT210 instead of a GT610?
(Almost the same price..)

EDIT: QUOTE from the card overview: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Compatible


I run 7 on this E6600, and its superb. However, it is MUCH faster when i use xp, tho that doesnt support some video formats or direct x 10 or 11.
I use it primarily for streaming tv from primewire.ag, and gaming. You will have to decide where to spend your money according to whet you are using it for. The sheet also says it already has a x1300 pro ati graphics card in there. Has somebody removed it?


Well I am quite sure that I wont throw much money on this PC, because as I said, this is only a secondary PC, I already have a gaming PC.
This will be for ocasionally playing Youtube and other 1080p videos, and for some gaming.

Thanks for all the help!
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August 20, 2013 5:40:33 AM

you will decide better when you get it up and running. You could go up a long way on the graphics like a gt440 sff like in that forum you posted but it will just come down to cash. Good luck!
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