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August 20, 2013 4:08:41 PM

i have about 900 dollers to spend and i would like to know what i get get for my buck. this computer will be only used for gaming sch as LOL, battelfield, starcraft..... and much more since i have limited experience in this feild i would like to know the best solution to my delema.
a b 4 Gaming
August 20, 2013 4:19:09 PM

If you dont care about overclocking and SLI/Crossfire:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $884.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 19:17 EDT-0400)

If you do care about OCing and SLI/Crossfire:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $878.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 19:20 EDT-0400)
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August 20, 2013 7:31:29 PM

ps3hacker12 said:
If you dont care about overclocking and SLI/Crossfire:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $884.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 19:17 EDT-0400)

If you do care about OCing and SLI/Crossfire:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $878.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 19:20 EDT-0400)


I looked up your second build with the link provided and it seams the price it about $900 instead of $880 which is fine im working on a build my slef i would love for you to look over i will be able to post it after i make it and thank you so much for the help.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 20, 2013 8:58:16 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Performance ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($113.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.91 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNWD-N1502UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($11.61 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Raidmax 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $914.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 23:57 EDT-0400)


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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $878.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-20 23:58 EDT-0400)

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August 20, 2013 9:27:55 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2duk

i didn't know what mther baord was better but this is what i was thinking. any ideas on this?

maother baord question Asus H87-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard vs

Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150





either way it has to have usb 3.0 ports cause the case does and i am stuck on this case i relize that drives the price up about $50

also i only need 1T of storage

or anothe option based on Fractal's build

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2dBK


what do you guys think is best out of the 3 options the 1st 2 are very similar but they have a different mother baord as i have said
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a b 4 Gaming
August 21, 2013 2:25:29 AM

The 4430 is really if you aren't interested in overclocking, in which case you only need a H77 chipset as the difference between Z77 and H77 is that H77 mobos can't overclock.

Haswell based systems (eg i5-4XXX) are about 10% better than ivy bridge based (i5-3XXX) systems, they are the newest as of now.

If you want the best upgrade path than a Z87 and LGA1150 board will most likely be best.
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August 21, 2013 7:07:13 AM

ok i have no idea what that is considering thi is my 1st time but here is what i know im going to need
case : nzxt 410
optical drive : anything i can use to put win7 on
OS: win7

that is all i have finilized for now

i would like an intel cpu, and most likly a gtx (what i mean is not radeon the other i heard is much better , is this true?) for the video card, i dont need a cu cooler for now i can always get that later (right?), 1T or storage, and 8gb or memory. this is kinda what i think i want. and opinions or buil off this would be very helpfull.

this is what i have come up with but it is over my budget is there anyway to lower the price and keep the quality of this comupter intacked, could this be done with a lesser power supply to save money?.
just a question what is the difference between an 1-5 and an 1-7

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2dJS
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a b 4 Gaming
August 21, 2013 8:18:02 AM

This is the best i could bringe it down by without compromising on quality:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($242.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $884.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 11:14 EDT-0400)

Yes you can always buy a cooler later. Radeon and GTX cards have equivalant versions of each other, the equivalant to the 760 is the 7950:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100352...

with the 7950:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $841.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 11:16 EDT-0400)

BENCHMARK GTX760 vs radeon 7950:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/854?vs=856

as you can see from the above benchmark the two acrds are about the same.

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just a question what is the difference between an 1-5 and an 1-7


I do not understand your question.
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August 21, 2013 2:36:58 PM

thanks this helps alot when i have time ill look them over and my question was what more does the i-7 give u vs the i-5

this is what i have come up with so far http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2e0v
so i dont know this company who make this video card and i dont know if they are reputable can u back them up or should we procede my finding one thatis similar but made by a known company?

also how are you getting lower prives than pcpartpicker gets isnt that its job? just curious?
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August 22, 2013 6:58:37 AM

Yup, zotac is a very reputable company with a record for some great products.

The i7 simply have hyperthreading and so it has 8 threads.

i7: 4 cores, 8 threads
i5: 4 cores, 4 threads

The only place that the i7 holds an advantage is for people who are doing high end video rendering and editing, otherwise there isn't any difference.

You asked if the price could be dropped in anyway, so i posted possible changes :p 
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August 22, 2013 7:57:55 AM

thanks man i just had never herd of them before and this helps me more tan you knwo now im down to me last question/delema
the Zotac has a Core Clock of only 993MHz vs the Gigabyte GV-N760OC-2GD REV2.0 GeForce GTX 760 2GB which as a core clock of 1.08Ghz and is only 10$ more is this 10$ worth spending?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 22, 2013 8:03:51 AM

its a difference of 15Mhz its really nothing, you could just change the zotac card to be 15Mhz higher easily.

15Mhz difference for $10 more? not really worth it imo.

if your into high end graphics card overclocking then the gigabyte card would be better if this is the gigabyte card your reffering to :)  :
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn760...
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August 22, 2013 8:30:33 AM

yes it was, so this card over al would be worth the 10$ as far asthe whole package?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 22, 2013 11:28:15 AM

Yes :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2013 2:52:11 AM

With such a huge case, i so reccommend getting atleast an ATX board, but apart from that everything looks great:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($254.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $973.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 05:51 EDT-0400)

also sorry for the late response, i wasn't on yesterday.
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August 24, 2013 9:01:08 AM

this helps so much man thanks i just gotta find a way to get that extra 90 dollars or so. is there anyother websites i should check for lower prices?
and honestly you have been the biggest help to me out of anyone i talked to and i realy appreciate it.
and no wrries about the "late" responce it was quick by my standards
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August 24, 2013 10:33:50 AM



Only way you could cut back would be to cut back on the case, the phantom is an awesome case, but pretty damn expensive, I personally like the look of the Z11 plus BUT the case choice is a personal choice, choose what you think you like best z11 plus:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($254.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $920.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 13:31 EDT-0400)

changes as prices have change are faster ram and a Z11 Plus.

If you prefer the look of the phantom, go for that :) 
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August 24, 2013 9:11:41 PM

thanks man this help but why did u change the memory? whats the difference and why? is that what you said about fasterram? sorry for the million questions but im trying to make a beast machine. thanks so much for the halp again you have no idea how many people have blown me off

also are those 2 cases different it looks as if one has a clear top and one has a black top? if i could get the link to the clear top one it would be awsome love the look of it.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2013 4:07:07 AM

The ram runs at 1866Mhz at the same 1.5V will allow for more overclocking headroom and costs a couple of dollars less!

Everywhere sells the Z11 plus with a clear top and top blue LED case fan, but alot of websites simply take a photo of the case while its off, so it looks black.
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August 26, 2013 3:51:30 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1wjKV
this is another build thats more in my budged but talking to some paople i know from MIT they said this prossesore would be fine for alot of reasons but what grafics card to pair with this stuff?
if your still into helping me
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2013 3:25:36 AM

Yeah, you could go for an FX based system too:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($38.00)
Total: $869.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 06:27 EDT-0400)

added in a great 128GB SSD for the same price. (even for an OS drive a 60GB SSD can get full really fast)

RAM, the ram you chose really doesn't offer any advantage :)  , so switched it out for the 1866Mhz ram. you should try and aim for multiples of 2 so 2 modules, 4 modules so that the ram can run in dual channel.

Seagate barracuda drive, slightly faster and has a combo deal.

7970, highest end AMD based signel GPU graphics card out there.

nice modular 600W PSU with great ripple suppresion and everything else.

The FX6300 has 2 more cores than the FX4350 and a nice turbo core too.

the FX6300 vs the 4670k:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=837

with the AMD based rigs, there is no point providing an SLI/Crossfire path since the processors bottleneck a single 7970 already.

AMD sadly cannot currently compete on raw and gaming performance, heres a bench:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/piledriver-k10-cpu-...

And when you get to power consumption, the story just gets worse:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/piledriver-k10-cpu-...

For a high end build i do reccommend going for an i5-4670k, but if you don't plan on upgrading to SLI/Crossfire, then an FX based processor won't be too bad.

Also just because their from MIT, they may not specialise in PC part selection :p  , thats more tech pop culture.
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August 28, 2013 3:25:15 AM

A PSU will only draw how much power it needs, it will never use more power than the PC needs, so a 750W PSU and a 600W PSU in a 500W PC will both only draw 500W.

if you want a 600W PSU then get a good branded one, like this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600...

that 6350 is pretty solid in terms of performance, good choice. Everything else also looks great :) 
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August 28, 2013 11:06:38 PM

ok with the power supply asside which i will look at depending on the system i decide on but which one if these whould you sudjest for a gaming pc? one is an intel the other is an amd. im consernd that the amd will bottle neck the gpu so much that the intel will be morth worth the extra 75$ if they will be very comparable systems ill go with the amd, but idk with the full build. what would you say is the best build? and again thanks for all the help.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2gHQ

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/VoltreX/saved/2gwp
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August 29, 2013 2:12:20 AM

The 6350 with a 7970 is likely to cause bottlenecks, whereas the i5 could handle even dual 760s.

(That coolmax PSU has been disregarded by many professional review sites, hence why i would go for a trusted PSU brand.)

The i5 in terms of less heat, less power usage, greater performance per core etc. Just general longevity too, the i5 is likely to last you alot longer.
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August 29, 2013 9:12:07 AM

ok an i will change out the PSU i just havent done it yet, but with system would get better preformace with a single GPU i do not plan on doing multiple GPU's and power consumtion/heat/noise im not all that worried about ill install extra fans later if i have to and i have gaming head phones i wear anywy. so with that said which system as a whole as it sits now (minus the power supply) would run BF3, League of legends, Tomb Raider,... the fastest/most grafical pleaseing.

and what you say about lasting me longer, you mean not get out dated as fast?

im asking this because what i have read is the 7970 is better than the 760.
and as long it is can run the game fast enough i wont see "lag" then its up to the grafix card, right?
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August 29, 2013 9:14:54 AM

Yes, i mean that the i5 will probably last you longer if you plan on upgrading the graphics card in the future to a more powerful one.

But the 6350 with a 7970 is fine if you don't have big upgrade plans, and yes it can run all those games on max or ultra settings.

yeah the 7970 is quite alot better than the 760:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/770?vs=854
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August 29, 2013 10:08:17 AM

ok cool then i will go with the amd build cause no besides maybe upgrading the ram thats about it imma just keep the system as is. and as long as it runs those games well im happy

thanks for all the help man
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a b 4 Gaming
September 17, 2013 5:42:32 PM

I would ge the g-skill sniper ram because its running at 1.5V which is the reccommended specification voltage for ddr3 ram. Also the gskill ram is the more trustworthy brand.
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September 17, 2013 5:44:52 PM

ok thank you so much this helps me.
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September 18, 2013 9:27:16 PM

so my gpu (7970) is 285 mm and the case can take up to 290 (zalman z11) is this enough room?
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September 19, 2013 6:49:10 AM

Yes, that is fine, case manufacturers usually give a conservative estimate anyway, so even if the card is a little longer than 290mm, it should still fit fine.

with 5mm less, you should be fine.
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September 19, 2013 7:34:18 AM

thank you very much. you have helped aot haveing a resource like you is incredable.
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September 19, 2013 7:35:53 AM

how much extra space on average should i have so i don croud the gpu? just info i want tp pick up for the future. but i love that case s i dont think ill change it and with my gpu haveing 3 fans build in it shouldnt be bad at all
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September 19, 2013 9:47:38 AM

Well since most cards dont have a incase (rear) exhaust, even a 1cm gap is fine.

By the way, if you went with the 6350 build, the stock cooler can be a little noisy, if you think its too loud (like many do), the hyper 212 EVO is a fantastic cooler for an alternative to the stock cooler.
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