A Gaming PC $1300 to $1800

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I am getting tired about gaming on my laptop at 20-30 FPS with mid setting. so I decide to buy a gaming PC. I start my research 2 weeks ago from Cyberpower and IBuypower but found a lot of negative comments online and direct me to here. So I decide to take a try to build my first PC, and hope somebody can give me a help.

The main purpose of this PC is gaming and surf online.

The reason I set a bigger range of budget from $1300 to $1800 is I am not totally sure which price is the balance point between price and quality. Newest parts might be 10% better than its old brothers, but with a 50% higher price is not a good choice for me. I want a 'Good' gaming PC which can handle most games but not need to be a 'Super/Extreme' gaming PC which cost several thousands.

The 'high end intel gaming pc' in this forum is great but their price are all above $1900 without monitor and OS. And plus another post on this forum suggests stick with 1 graphic card and don't go with SLI.

This newegg combo looks good but some one said those combos don't use best parts.

So I am looking for a build in between those two level and easy enough for first-time builder.


There is the list of standard questions:

Approximate Purchase Date: within 1 month


Budget Range: start from $1300 but not (hopefully) exceed $1800.


System Usage from Most to Least Important:


Most important:
-Mainly for gaming and daily usage, some programming and development.
-Should be able to run most games in high definition smoothly. ( such as Diablo 3 and Borderland 2).
-Should be able to run game such as BF3 and Skyrim with mid-high setting.

Least important:
-Movie. Music.



Parts Not Required:

-I need a complete new PC include monitor. Not sure if the shipping rate is worth to order online. Please mention which part is better to shop at local then I can go get it from my local BestBuy.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preference. (Have amazon prime )


Country: US


Parts Preferences:
1. Good for gaming but not overkill on the price.
2. Easy to assemble together for first-time builder.
3. Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.
4. SSD for OS and hdd for other programs. (if that is a bad idea then go hdd only)
*5. Need to use wifi


Overclocking: NO.

SLI or Crossfire: NO.


Monitor Resolution: I don't have it yet, any suggestion?.


Additional Comments:
- win8 or win7? Which one is better now? And any good place to purchase them?


edit: forgot to mention two things:
My cable and router is in another room so I need to use wifi.
I have amazon prime that could save some money when shipping. (for same quality part with same price)




Appreciate for your time!
 
You're already in the 'play most games' category by the time you pass $1k.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1431.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 03:18 EDT-0400)

I like Win7, but you can get 8 if you want. Try it first though.

EDIT: Dropping to a 770 is still very fast, or save more and get a 7970 - even if you want nVidia, they're still very fast.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.19 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($182.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Sniper ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V700 700W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.88 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS24AH-P 24.0" Monitor ($226.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1635.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 03:31 EDT-0400)

This will be a great gaming machine with top quality parts but not bleeding edge performance.

4760 CPU. You cannot overclock this per your request. But it is the latest from Intel and the king of gaming, the Haswell I5 series.

Technically, you don't need a after market cooler, but the CM hyper 212 EVO is the best value and will run cool and keep you CPU running for years.

The motherboard is top quality with lots of features so it will grow with you.

The RAM has none of the useless heat spreaders so it will fit nicely in your system.

The Samsung 840 EVO 250GB will give you plenty of SSD space for your operating system, Office, many, many games and downloads. The new EVO is very fast, yet low in cost.

Quality, low cost HDD for your movies, music, etc.

The GTX 770 is a great video card that will give you great results for your monitor and is not the latest and greatest.

The case is fantastic and looks great at a good sale price now.

The power supply is a real top quality one with the best fan in the business. Will last for years.

Windows 8. The 8.1 upgrade is coming in weeks and will fix the Windows 8. This is faster, more secure, and up to date than Windows 7.

The monitor has the magical 16:10 aspect ratio with 1920X1200 resolution. The extra vertical space over the typical 16:9 1920X1080 actually comes in handy for web browsing and looking at documents.
 
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Thanks you for reply.

Sorry I forget to mention I need a wireless card to use wifi.

It looks like the first build spent 40% of the budget in the graphic card and the second build spent the budget evenly to many parts, is there any pros and cons to favor one than the other?

Also as a gaming PC, is any rumor/feedback about games, software or even driver cant run well on Win8? I know the Win8 have a strange new UI and it takes time to get use to. But for the performance-support level is that one works great? And someone said win8 did way better job on support SSD is that true?

 

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I only found 4 reviews on Asus B85M-G at newegg and 0 reviews in Amazon. Compare with B85, the entire Z87 series is much popular in both Newegg, amazon. Even asus website have tons of info about Z87 and only a few about B85.

Why is that big different comes from? Is it because the quality issue or just because the SLI?


I just notice the majority builds in this forum uses SLI or leaves the posibility of SLI. 2 examples close to my budget range: build 1 build 2. It makes me feels 'maybe I was wrong and I should go with SLI as most people does'.


If I don't stick with 'single graphic card and non-OC' build, what would you recommend?


 

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hey babernet_1, is your build support and compatible for SLI in future?
 


Yes, if you upgrade the power supply from a CM V700 to a CM V850 or CM V1000. The 850 would be enough, but the 1000 would give plenty of breathing room.
 

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This one?


 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151107&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Great deal, and there's no need for more than 750W with that frugal CPU.

B85 boards can't SLI/CF or overclock, and are a little behind in the ports. H77 can't OC or SLI/CF either, but does have things like SRT.

Z87 is the enthusiast chipset, and people always focus on those

PS: You can technically CF, but with one of the cards on PCIe2.0x4.
 

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My friend just remind me that the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard have some negative reviews on Newegg about its audio part. So I wonder if ASUS Z87-PRO LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard works?