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August 21, 2013 9:38:38 AM

hi guys iam going to get a new pc which one of those are good for gaming at the time and one year later

FX-8350
FX-8320
FX-6300

I5-3470
I5-3570k

iam getting the cpu for gaming with Sapphire HD 7870 Ghz my budget its 650$

iam using the cryengine and i want to play crysis 3 on max settings at (1366x768)

so which one is better

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August 21, 2013 9:47:12 AM

AMD FX-6300 will be enough for you at 768p.
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August 21, 2013 9:53:50 AM

if the answer was 'enough', Seladon would be correct.

The best is the i5-3570k but it's also the most expensive. Honestly I had a 2500k (pretty much the same performance) and I felt guilty for putting that much money into an expensive CPU + a motherboard solid enough to overclock. I sold that build off a year ago & rebuilt recently a ~500 6300 + HD 7870, and I have no problems gaming for about 1/2 the cost of my original build.

It's all up to how much money is reasonable for your budget and gaming needs. I can't play crisis 3 maxed out on 1080p, but TBH I'd rather have $500 in my pocket & be forced to only play at high settings q.q

still the 3570k will clearly get you higher frames. Even with a nice overclock the 6300 is very fast, but it falls in a tier or two behind the i5 overclock.. still.. what's it worth to you to max out the handful of games that do fall in the top tier? that's the question :) 
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August 21, 2013 10:01:26 AM

so guys what about fx-8320 and hd 7870 would be enough for gaming like +50 fps in crysis 3 at 1366x768
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August 21, 2013 10:19:47 AM

Before this can be answered you need to look at what games you want to play and how many cores they will use.

This is because intel has better per-core performance, but fewer cores. AMD has more cores but lower per core performance.

Because if this fact:

Games using 1-4 cores will 'usually' perform better on an i5.

Games using 4-8 cores will 'usually' perform better on an FX 8350.


Next you need to consider your GPU setup:

Both an i7 (* not i5...i7) and FX 8350 will scale very similarly in performance up to 2 GPUs in crossfire or SLI at 1080p, making the lower priced AMD a great option. Once you start to get into 3-way SLI and 1440p resolutions, an i7 has an edge of about 15-20% over the FX8350.
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August 21, 2013 10:19:52 AM

UM Mido said:
so guys what about fx-8320 and hd 7870 would be enough for gaming like +50 fps in crysis 3 at 1366x768


are you changing your question now?

if so there are some important points you haven't covered.

1) are you absolutely sure you will be staying at 1366x768? If your putting down this much money I'm surprised you don't want a bigger screen
2) Is crysis 3 the only game you want to play. Some games have different needs, what are your top 5 favorites?
3) what is your budget & where on the price/performance scale do you want to be. Some people build 500 PCs to play mid-high, some buy 1200 to play high, and others pay $2000 PCs to do ultra performance & other home uses.

if you don't decide a few things first the answer is going to depend on how you feel that day more than anything.. that's how a lot of people end up paying as much as possible and regretting it (I see a lot of $1500+ PCs/ultra/water cooling that end up on ebay or craigslist)
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August 21, 2013 10:23:43 AM

UM Mido said:
so guys what about fx-8320 and hd 7870 would be enough for gaming like +50 fps in crysis 3 at 1366x768


You'll be fine.

My Phenom II 1090T @ 4.0 GHz on a 990FX board with 2 x 7950's in crossfire averages 40-60 (Vsync capped) @ 1080p. This is with all details MAXED using 2x SMAA (Tom's recommended for best balance between quality and performance)

I do notice though that Crysis 3 really likes crossfire. When I drop down to 1 GPU I went to 30-50 FPS with an average in the low 40s.
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August 21, 2013 11:13:14 AM

thanks for reply and trying to help me guys

First : iam using an old screen and its standard and i will change it but after a while and this resolution not with this bad i thought

Second : My Top 11 favourite games it is

1- Crysis 3

2- BattleField Series

3- Tomb Raider : Survival Edition

4- Saints row series like 4 and the Third

5-Assassin's Creed Series like 3 and 4

6- and iam waiting for watch dogs and gta v if it become to the pc

7- PES like pes 2012 - 13 - 14

8- FarCry 3

9- Splinter cell like black list

10- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier

11- BioShock infinite

sure there is another games i would like to play like batman origins and Xcom sleepng dogs and deadpool mortalkombat and remember me

Third : My Budget its 600$
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August 21, 2013 11:15:04 AM

maddogfargo said:
UM Mido said:
so guys what about fx-8320 and hd 7870 would be enough for gaming like +50 fps in crysis 3 at 1366x768


You'll be fine.

My Phenom II 1090T @ 4.0 GHz on a 990FX board with 2 x 7950's in crossfire averages 40-60 (Vsync capped) @ 1080p. This is with all details MAXED using 2x SMAA (Tom's recommended for best balance between quality and performance)

I do notice though that Crysis 3 really likes crossfire. When I drop down to 1 GPU I went to 30-50 FPS with an average in the low 40s.


so you think that i will get + 50 fps at the average at ultra settings at 768P
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August 21, 2013 11:19:18 AM

Here's what I recommend you :

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($56.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 14:19 EDT-0400)
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August 21, 2013 11:23:54 AM

Seladon said:
Here's what I recommend you :

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($56.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 14:19 EDT-0400)


the case and the psu aren't available at my country and what about this mother board ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+
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August 21, 2013 11:50:28 AM

UM Mido said:
so guys what about fx-8320 and hd 7870 would be enough for gaming like +50 fps in crysis 3 at 1366x768


If you are expecting maxed out graphics, then no. The benchmarks below is based on an i7-4770k @ 4.2GHz. The benchmarks is for 1600x900 (lowest resolution benchmarked), not 1366x768. 1366x768 resolution has 27% fewer pixels compared to 1600x900. Even if that meant a 33% increase in performance the estimated result is an in from 29.2FPs to 38.8 FPS. Based on the 33% performance increase assumption, in order to get 50FPS at 1366x768 resolution you will need a card that can get 38 FPS @ 1600x900 resolution. That would either be the GTX 760 or the Radeon HD 7970.

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August 21, 2013 11:52:23 AM

UM Mido said:
Seladon said:
Here's what I recommend you :

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1uBhE/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($56.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $568.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-21 14:19 EDT-0400)


the case and the psu aren't available at my country and what about this mother board ASUS M5A97 R2.0 Socket AM3+


That board is good, I have it in my build...
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August 21, 2013 11:57:40 AM

UM Mido said:

Second : My Top 11 favourite games it is

1- Crysis 3

2- BattleField Series

3- Tomb Raider : Survival Edition

4- Saints row series like 4 and the Third

5-Assassin's Creed Series like 3 and 4

6- and iam waiting for watch dogs and gta v if it become to the pc

7- PES like pes 2012 - 13 - 14

8- FarCry 3

9- Splinter cell like black list

10- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier

11- BioShock infinite



#1 - Crysis 3 is CPU dependent and will perform better with an Intel quad core CPU.

#2 - Battlefield series. - Single player CPU doesn't matter. In multiplayer mode Intel quad core CPUs will give you better performance.

#3 - CPU does not matter as long as it is not slow enough to bottleneck GPU.

#4 - #7 - Don't know.

#8 - Far Cry 3 is CPU dependent so a quad core Intel CPU will provide better performance.

#9 & #10 - Don't know.

#11 - BioShock Infinite does not care how fast the CPU is as long as it does not slow down the GPU.
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August 21, 2013 12:02:09 PM

jaguarskx said:
UM Mido said:

Second : My Top 11 favourite games it is

1- Crysis 3

2- BattleField Series

3- Tomb Raider : Survival Edition

4- Saints row series like 4 and the Third

5-Assassin's Creed Series like 3 and 4

6- and iam waiting for watch dogs and gta v if it become to the pc

7- PES like pes 2012 - 13 - 14

8- FarCry 3

9- Splinter cell like black list

10- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier

11- BioShock infinite



#1 - Crysis 3 is CPU dependent and will perform better with an Intel quad core CPU.

#2 - Battlefield series. - Single player CPU doesn't matter. In multiplayer mode Intel quad core CPUs will give you better performance.

#3 - CPU does not matter as long as it is not slow enough to bottleneck GPU.

#4 - #7 - Don't know.

#8 - Far Cry 3 is CPU dependent so a quad core Intel CPU will provide better performance.

#9 & #10 - Don't know.

#11 - BioShock Infinite does not care how fast the CPU is as long as it does not slow down the GPU.


To add a note here: "better" is sometimes only determinable by using a program such as FRAPS (not visually distinguishable by the human eye). In many, if not most of these cases he is discussing, the FPS difference is very minor...on the order of 2-5 FPS. In some cases it's slightly more...however, it's difficult to tell the difference between 45 and 50 FPS, much less trying to figure out 45 vs. 47 FPS.
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August 21, 2013 1:50:33 PM

so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd
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August 21, 2013 2:00:51 PM

UM Mido said:
so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd


I would say the 8320, though if it constrains your budget too much, the 6300 would be just as suitable.
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August 21, 2013 2:06:30 PM

8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd



I would say the 8320, though if it constrains your budget too much, the 6300 would be just as suitable.



so then what about the intel cpus and amd cpus you say 8320 is good and a little scared to buy amd or intel and after that to find them badass in gaming because this is my first build
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August 21, 2013 2:14:53 PM

UM Mido said:
8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd


You could play any game on the 8320 no problem.
I would say the 8320, though if it constrains your budget too much, the 6300 would be just as suitable.



so then what about the intel cpus and amd cpus you say 8320 is good and a little scared to buy amd or intel and after that to find them badass in gaming because this is my first build


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August 21, 2013 2:30:02 PM

8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd


You could play any game on the 8320 no problem.
I would say the 8320, though if it constrains your budget too much, the 6300 would be just as suitable.



so then what about the intel cpus and amd cpus you say 8320 is good and a little scared to buy amd or intel and after that to find them badass in gaming because this is my first build





friend what about the fx-8350 and hd 7870 xt like those you have did you make any benchmarks or a games test ?
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August 23, 2013 2:03:52 PM

UM Mido said:
8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
8350rocks said:
UM Mido said:
so guys which one of those sould i get the fx-8320 .. fx-6300 or i5 3470... 3570k because i think the difference between the fx-6300 and i5 3470 is so close and iamn't planning to oc now so i thought aswell the fx-8320 equal the i5-3570k so am i right or not help please because the question has turned to which one is better for gaming intel or amd


You could play any game on the 8320 no problem.
I would say the 8320, though if it constrains your budget too much, the 6300 would be just as suitable.



so then what about the intel cpus and amd cpus you say 8320 is good and a little scared to buy amd or intel and after that to find them badass in gaming because this is my first build





friend what about the fx-8350 and hd 7870 xt like those you have did you make any benchmarks or a games test ?


My setup runs just about anything I want on high settings. Some games will run on Ultra...it depends on the title. Crysis 3 I can run on mostly max settings, I just have to turn the AA/AF down a bit...
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January 14, 2014 5:21:18 AM

I've seen many people saying,"Oh,the AMD will outperform Intel for sure when it comes to gaming with all the 8 cores!!!". Well,wait a minute,what does the benchmarking say about this? I've heard that the Crysis 3 uses 8 cores, and well, this benchmarking doesn't justify the stupid argument of AMD fanboys.
http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance...
Looking at these benchmarkings, I don't see how the game benefits those extra 4 cores. So I'd say, "Bitch please.. :D  " to all those fanboys of AMD. AMD is still behind the 4 Core Intel i7-3770K. Well, they may point out the price. But we ain't speaking of the price,are we? We are speaking of the core count.
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