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August 23, 2013 6:55:13 AM

SO, I'm trying to build a PC for my son, he wants to play Day-Z at a decent framerate. He's got decentish graphics card but it's in an old PC. So I want to upgrade the mobo and cpu.

The Day Z reccommended cpu is a AMD Athlon Phenom X4. Is the phenom an old cpu now, what's amd's current equivalent, I find it hard to work out which range their cpu's are in.

btw I did find this pack, not sure if it'll be the best option for us though - http://www.maplin.co.uk/amd-quad-core-phenom-x4-9350-ms...

That's about our budget too 100 to 150.... Thanks for any help folks....
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August 23, 2013 7:17:50 AM

babatonius said:
SO, I'm trying to build a PC for my son, he wants to play Day-Z at a decent framerate. He's got decentish graphics card but it's in an old PC. So I want to upgrade the mobo and cpu.

The Day Z reccommended cpu is a AMD Athlon Phenom X4. Is the phenom an old cpu now, what's amd's current equivalent, I find it hard to work out which range their cpu's are in.

btw I did find this pack, not sure if it'll be the best option for us though - http://www.maplin.co.uk/amd-quad-core-phenom-x4-9350-ms...

That's about our budget too 100 to 150.... Thanks for any help folks....


Id suggest an FX 6300, FX 4130, or the Phenom II X4 965 From AMD, either one will do better then that 1st gen Phenom. All will get decent frames (around 30 - 40) at best with a decent GPU.
This motherboard, an Asus, will do well for all three.

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August 23, 2013 7:26:31 AM

Try:

Have a look at Dabs and ebuyer but don't forget that if you are buying a new motherboard you will have to re-install the operating system with a new license (about £70) and all the applications.

The phenom is a great processor but it is getting a bit long in the tooth now. Check out the reviews on this site especially the best CPU series.


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August 23, 2013 7:32:48 AM

Yeah, the Phenom X4 series (1st generation) is a bit dated now. Not sure how much of a performance boost the 2nd generation Phenom II X4 was, but at least the 2nd gen competed with Intel's Core 2 Duo / Quad CPUs.

Since you are building a new system and want to stick with AMD you might as well get a current generation CPU. AMD CPUs generally lower performance than Intel CPUs, but also lower prices so they are generally considered "best bang for the buck (quid)". I would say the FX-6300 / FX-6350 will provide you with a good performance increase. You will want to look for a motherboard with the AMD 970 chipset which will be compatible with AMD's successor to Piledriver CPUs (current generation CPU family); Steamroller in 2014. Excavator will succeed Steamroller in 2015, but I am not sure if the 970 chipset will be compatible with that CPU generation.
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August 23, 2013 7:50:43 AM

So at minimum, you need CPU, motherboard and ram. What GPU is in the system now?

Here is my pick for CPU, MB, and Ram.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£86.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£51.33 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £190.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-23 15:50 BST+0100)
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August 23, 2013 8:03:43 AM

He's got a radeon hd 6770 at the moment, we're really gaming on a budget here but that selection looks reasonable...might have to drop down to the fx4xx series maybe
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August 23, 2013 8:09:38 AM

Just had another thought, this PC has a standard psu, will it fit a microatx motherboard?
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August 23, 2013 8:09:40 AM

Just had another thought, this PC has a standard psu, will it fit a microatx motherboard?
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August 23, 2013 8:12:16 AM

Micro ATX is just a smaller version of an ATX. The PSU connections are the same. You would only need a Micro-ATX PSU if you had a micro ATX case that didn't offer full ATX PSU support. If you go with an FX 4xxx series make sure it isn't the FX 41xx series cpus. Those should be avoided. The are so close in price, though, that I wouldn't get anything less than an FX 6300.
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August 23, 2013 8:15:22 AM

ok, I'll bear that in mind. As for the motherboard, anything I should be looking out for? I'm not too worried about future compatibility with next gen processors.
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August 23, 2013 11:09:19 AM

I wouldn't get a fx 6300 unless you plan to overclock. Dayz doesn't make very good use of multiple cores. So having higher clock CPU is more important. So I would get A fx 6350 at minimum( That is if you aren't overclocking). As far as dayz goes the fx 6300 is barely an upgrade. The best thing to do is probably go with intel since the have higher per core performance.
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August 23, 2013 2:51:16 PM

bobbybamf12 said:
I wouldn't get a fx 6300 unless you plan to overclock. Dayz doesn't make very good use of multiple cores. So having higher clock CPU is more important. So I would get A fx 6350 at minimum( That is if you aren't overclocking). As far as dayz goes the fx 6300 is barely an upgrade. The best thing to do is probably go with intel since the have higher per core performance.


Why spend more for a factory multiplier change? A 6350 is nothing more than a 6300 with a higher multiplier setting. Save the $$$ and just get an FX 6300 and set the multiplier to the same as the 6350 if not comfortable with aggressive overclocking. Same goes for the 8320 vs the 8350. Unless going for extreme overclocks, any of the FX x350 cpus are a waste of money over their slower clocked counterparts of the same series.
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August 23, 2013 10:07:16 PM

logainofhades said:
bobbybamf12 said:
I wouldn't get a fx 6300 unless you plan to overclock. Dayz doesn't make very good use of multiple cores. So having higher clock CPU is more important. So I would get A fx 6350 at minimum( That is if you aren't overclocking). As far as dayz goes the fx 6300 is barely an upgrade. The best thing to do is probably go with intel since the have higher per core performance.


Why spend more for a factory multiplier change? A 6350 is nothing more than a 6300 with a higher multiplier setting. Save the $$$ and just get an FX 6300 and set the multiplier to the same as the 6350 if not comfortable with aggressive overclocking. Same goes for the 8320 vs the 8350. Unless going for extreme overclocks, any of the FX x350 cpus are a waste of money over their slower clocked counterparts of the same series.


Well that's why i say get the fx 6300 if he want's to overclock. A lot of people thinks overclocking is a lot harder then it really is, so they would rather buy a factory overclock cpu. I personally agree with you and think the fx 6350 and 8350 is a waste of money. I have the fx 6350 because it was the same price as the 6300 when I bought it. Also, his motherboard have to be able to handle the overclock.

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August 23, 2013 10:07:16 PM

logainofhades said:
bobbybamf12 said:
I wouldn't get a fx 6300 unless you plan to overclock. Dayz doesn't make very good use of multiple cores. So having higher clock CPU is more important. So I would get A fx 6350 at minimum( That is if you aren't overclocking). As far as dayz goes the fx 6300 is barely an upgrade. The best thing to do is probably go with intel since the have higher per core performance.


Why spend more for a factory multiplier change? A 6350 is nothing more than a 6300 with a higher multiplier setting. Save the $$$ and just get an FX 6300 and set the multiplier to the same as the 6350 if not comfortable with aggressive overclocking. Same goes for the 8320 vs the 8350. Unless going for extreme overclocks, any of the FX x350 cpus are a waste of money over their slower clocked counterparts of the same series.


Well that's why i say get the fx 6300 if he want's to overclock. A lot of people thinks overclocking is a lot harder then it really is, so they would rather buy a factory overclock cpu. I personally agree with you and think the fx 6350 and 8350 is a waste of money. I have the fx 6350 because it was the same price as the 6300 when I bought it. Also, his motherboard have to be able to handle the overclock.

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