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August 23, 2013 3:09:48 PM

Has anyone seen any product announcements for THIN MINI-ITX 1150 socket mobos?

I can't find any for sale and can't find any announcements in main stream media.

I need a z87 based board because I plan on doing a heavy OC.

Thanks!

EDIT***
I need thin PRIMARILY because of the DC Power Jack.
There isn't a picopsu rated high enough for my use.

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August 23, 2013 4:32:50 PM

photonboy said:
The "thin" part refers to the height of all parts so you can put it in a thin case. So it makes no sense to have a "thin" Z87 board that you then put a big CPU heatsink on.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/hardware-develop...

65W TDP for CPU's on the thin boards.

Just get a regular Z87 Mini-itx board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


I feel like you don't know what you're talking about...
It is possible to properly cool an OC'd processor without using a 'big' heatsink.
If I had the SPACE for a full size ATX or a Micro-ATX MoBo then I wouldn't be asking the question would I?
They have b75 MoBos. So while I guess 'z' isn't mandatory, I would need a comparable OC-able Thin ITX board for Haswell. Which brings me BACK TO MY QUESTION, has anyone seen or heard of THIN ITX Boards for 1150 Haswell?

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Just checked, Gigabyte's GA-B75TN supports up to 77w CPU load.
So... yea. I'm assuming Intel's page you used was most likely making a low statement based on common h61 boards since those are more common in Thin products.
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a c 158 V Motherboard
August 24, 2013 3:20:52 PM

Hi,
I do know what I'm talking about, but your question was very confusing.

You said "I need a z87 based board because I plan on doing a heavy OC." You stated that but also the fact that you want a THIN profile. Do you know what the thin profile means?

Intel shows in the link I gave you that the THIN motherboards are designed not to exceed 25mm. They did this by using a thinner I/O port and turning the RAM sideways. A regular mini-ITX has a larger I/O port so it is obviously "thicker" at roughly 40mm.

If you don't exceed the 40mm of a regular mini-ITX height you have roughly 25mm for the CPU cooler. That's not very much height for a cooling solution and we're not even talking about the THIN version.

The THIN version at 25mm would give you 10mm for a cooler if you don't exceed that height. Perhaps you have a little more space but regardless that's not very much height for a cooler.

So you were telling me that you want to heavily overclock an Intel CPU using a (roughly) 10mm to 20mm cooler (you'd need a heatpipe), because otherwise you can just use a regular mini-ITX motherboard. Maybe you do have a heatpipe solution, but since you didn't explain this I can't assume that.

Perhaps that IS the case, but no need to be slightly rude about the entire thing. I answered based on conflicting information. If you'd given more specifics maybe I could help more.

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by the Power Supply edit. If you are limited in how much power you can use then why are you discussing OVERCLOCKING?

I'm not trying to be rude. This probably makes sense to you, but on my end it's a little confusing.
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August 27, 2013 5:56:18 PM

photonboy said:
Hi,
I do know what I'm talking about, but your question was very confusing.

You said "I need a z87 based board because I plan on doing a heavy OC." You stated that but also the fact that you want a THIN profile. Do you know what the thin profile means?

Intel shows in the link I gave you that the THIN motherboards are designed not to exceed 25mm. They did this by using a thinner I/O port and turning the RAM sideways. A regular mini-ITX has a larger I/O port so it is obviously "thicker" at roughly 40mm.

If you don't exceed the 40mm of a regular mini-ITX height you have roughly 25mm for the CPU cooler. That's not very much height for a cooling solution and we're not even talking about the THIN version.

The THIN version at 25mm would give you 10mm for a cooler if you don't exceed that height. Perhaps you have a little more space but regardless that's not very much height for a cooler.

So you were telling me that you want to heavily overclock an Intel CPU using a (roughly) 10mm to 20mm cooler (you'd need a heatpipe), because otherwise you can just use a regular mini-ITX motherboard. Maybe you do have a heatpipe solution, but since you didn't explain this I can't assume that.

Perhaps that IS the case, but no need to be slightly rude about the entire thing. I answered based on conflicting information. If you'd given more specifics maybe I could help more.

Other:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by the Power Supply edit. If you are limited in how much power you can use then why are you discussing OVERCLOCKING?

I'm not trying to be rude. This probably makes sense to you, but on my end it's a little confusing.


I want a Thin board for the DC powerjack, that is all. I have enough vertical space for a normal height ITX Board. But there isn't a PicoPSU rated with the power draw I want this system to consume. I plan on using Dell's 330w Alienware Laptop Charger to power the system. If there were a 350w PicoPSU I'd be JUMPING FOR JOY. But the highest I can find is 220w, and that is lacking by a small margin.

I need Haswell for the SLIGHT performance gains over Ivy Bridge. From what I hear the 4670k(Stock frequency) matches the performance of a mildly OC'd 3570k. This matters because I plan on a mild OC to 4.0-4.2GHz.
While I'm limited on vertical space, I have enough room for about 60mm worth of Heatsink/fan. I planned on using the CoolerMaster Seidon 120 or similar. (Seidon measures at 55mm thick with the included 120mm fan)

If this makes things any easier I'm building an NES PC LanBox. I don't feel I can comfortably put a FlexATX PSU into the NES and the Mobo, and the Closed Loop Water Cooler. Hence why I want a MoBo with a DC powerjack. Even with an estimated 20% power loss on the Dell 330w AC adapter I'm still getting 264w of power.

My power draw is for 4670k @ 4.2GHz, HD7750, 1 SSD, 1 HDD, 4 40mm fans, 1 120mm fan and 6 USB Devices. Using Extreme's PSU Calculator my power consumption is 260w at 90% load.

Planned Build:
Intel Core i5 4670k
16GB RAM
mSATA SSD (Whatever size/price I feel like paying)
2/3/4TB HDD (Whatever size/price I feel like paying)
AMD Radeon HD7750 (Supposedly the best GFX Card without PCI-E Power, Low Profile Single Slot)
120mm Closed Loop Water Cooler (There are several options and depending on Price/Performance it will be decided upon checkout)
1x 120mm fan
4x 40mm FAN

I would like to apologize if I came off as rude. Been having a tough time at work and feel on edge. I would appreciate any and all help you are willing to give.
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SeaSonic has a 350w FlexATX PSU that is 80Plus GOLD. I would LOVE to fit it into my build, but space and airflow become a big issue with my 'enclosure of choice'. It is also non-modular, so excess wiring is extra clutter in the case.
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I also do not plan on making any cuts besides vent slots. I see many people flip the Mobo upside down and make these huge exhaust ports. I dont want that.
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a c 158 V Motherboard
August 27, 2013 9:53:56 PM

I might be able to help more if I knew the purpose of this build.

If it's for gaming, then it's a lot of money to be then bottlenecked by an HD7750. If it's NOT gaming then I don't understand why you'd be building a LANBOX.

If I were building the smallest game box possible, I'd do something like THIS:
1) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84331&vpn=SG06S-LITE&...
*Look at the picture. Note it supports an SFX PSU.

2) SFX PSU (450W):
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

I wouldn't bother overclocking the CPU, but you could put in a much better graphics card than an HD7750. Plus, it's pretty simple to put together. You just need to double-check compatibility as there's little room. A blower-style graphics card might be best to push as much heat as possible out the rear.

That's the smallest you can build a half-decent gaming PC.
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a c 158 V Motherboard
August 27, 2013 10:15:30 PM

I might be able to help more if I knew the purpose of this build.

If it's for gaming, then it's a lot of money to be then bottlenecked by an HD7750. If it's NOT gaming then I don't understand why you'd be building a LANBOX.

If I were building the smallest game box possible, I'd do something like THIS:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=277&area=...
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a c 158 V Motherboard
August 27, 2013 10:25:02 PM

BTW, if you're a gamer, check out the Humble Bundle which expires today:
https://www.humblebundle.com/

I paid $5 for all ten games (Populous is rather useless and I had some, but still.. $5!). For the ones that are both Steam or Origin, use the Steam code.
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September 24, 2013 8:02:56 AM

Hi, i have seen announcement from Gigabyte, GA-H81TN,

but all thin itx board do not have a PCIEx16 slot, only PCIEx4 is available.
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November 20, 2013 1:53:34 PM

I realize this is a little old.
This site sells some Mini-ITX gear thin or standard height. That gives you an idea of what is out there.
http://www.mini-box.com/Socket-1150

Asus makes another board for thin Mini-ITX that looks promising:
The Asus Q87 CSM (Corporate Stable Motherboard)
Has 2 separate MPCIE slots.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Mini-Motherboard-Q87T-CSM/dp...

I think Asus designed this for AIO All In One computers. It may not show up with the regular motherboards.
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December 23, 2013 8:32:09 PM

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sazyario said:
Has anyone seen any product announcements for THIN MINI-ITX 1150 socket mobos?

I can't find any for sale and can't find any announcements in main stream media.

I need a z87 based board because I plan on doing a heavy OC.

Thanks!

EDIT***
I need thin PRIMARILY because of the DC Power Jack.
There isn't a picopsu rated high enough for my use.


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January 14, 2014 12:18:02 AM

ASRock also supplies Thin Mini ITX boards:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=Intel%20mITX
Heavy OC on a thin mini ITX, is not a good idea.
Thin Mini ITX is designed for low power consumption, overclocking is not what Thin Mini ITX is designed for.
Watercooling is nice, but only cools the CPU, not the other hardware. Up to 65 Watt TDP you can use a fanless chassis like the Akasa Euler, above 65 watt you should use another cooler
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