New Upgrade For Dad

Stranger220

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Hi, I'm new to the forums and would like advice with helping my dad upgrading his PC.

I've built computers in the past so the whole building part is not a problem for me it's just the picking up parts that's more challenging especially given the fact that in this case we're dealing with a PC that was build a few years ago.

Here are the specs:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
RAM: 4.00 GB
GPU: Radeon 7870 HD
Motherboard: Asus P5QL PRO
PSU: 500 Watt (Don't remember the brand)
OS: Windows 7 64 Bit

Budget: Around $200, can be a bit more if the motherboard has to be replaced.

Now here is his usage:

He recently installed a surveillance system and is now using a software called Blue Iris. The problem is that all the rendering the software does while it records along with a remote server that it hosts ends up slowing his PC to a standstill.

The CPU will work at full capacity (100%) whenever Blue Iris is running with his RAM usage being high and he can't even use Firefox (let alone any other software) without having to reboot his PC constantly.

My belief is that the CPU is the bottleneck in this case and I told him that it will have to be replaced. The problem is that the motherboard is also kind of old so I'm kind of skeptical as to whether or not we will be able to find a decent CPU without replacing the motherboard as well.

I understand that a more professional approach would to have a PC dedicated just to surveillance cameras, but he only wants one computer and to be able to do other things on it while the camera software is on.

There are currently two cameras running on it, but I would like if the upgrade allowed for a future expansion of say another two cameras without impacting the performance too much.

So, to summarize he wants the Blue Iris camera software to run and render things as he goes about normal computer usage such as web browsing, watching movies, etc without the software slowing things down.

Thanks in advance for all the help guys and if you have any questions let me know.

 
Solution
I think in this case I'd go ahead and replace the motherboard/cpu and probably the ram. I'd take a look at the Amd fx8320, a 970 chipset motherboard and at least 8gb's of Ram. I'm assuming that you have ddr2 in the current system. So...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($62.23 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $262.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 14:32 EDT-0400)

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I think in this case I'd go ahead and replace the motherboard/cpu and probably the ram. I'd take a look at the Amd fx8320, a 970 chipset motherboard and at least 8gb's of Ram. I'm assuming that you have ddr2 in the current system. So...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($62.23 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $262.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 14:32 EDT-0400)

I don't know that an fx6300 would help out much honestly, so I'd spend the extra 30 dollars and get an octa-core Cpu. Everything else is fairly inexpensive though, so I hope this fits your budget.
 
Solution
I believe the CPU isn't the bottleneck , but the RAM is. The CPU is just fine IMHO. First of all add 4GB of 1066/800/667 DDR2 ( for optimum performance , check the current RAM's specs and choose same or similar speced RAM in frequency and voltage ) That ought to solve the issue. If you still face lag , then nothing can help you.
Here's some RAM's I picked -
DDR2 800
Mushkin Silverline 4GB
Crucial Ballistix 4GB

DDR2-1066
Crucial 4GB

Since most DDR2 RAM's are out of production , these will be your best bet , pick on of you choice and go.

All DDR2 compatible RAM's on PCPartPicker - List of DDR2 667 , 800 and 1066 RAM's
 

RazerZ

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I really don't think 8320 is necessary seeing that AMD " redefined what a core meant", and an quad core i5 out performs it. This build here should do great for what your Dad needs, which is basically running a heavy program and lighter programs simultaneously. Also the motherboard Swordkd picked out is really bad, and has a ton of terrible reviews for it. Never go lower than $75 on a mobo.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.55 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $246.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-24 14:44 EDT-0400)
 

Stranger220

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Thanks for all the help so far guys. I'm no expert but I'm wondering if the fx8320 wouldn't be better, because the Blue Iris software is also running a remote server (the PC is the remote server) so that he can watch the captured videos on the go and that's what's really slows things down. Basically it's barely usable when he switches Blue Iris on, but the server just stalls things completely.
 

RazerZ

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For what your Dad needs it seems like the CPU and ram is the problem. If you upgrade to what I posted earlier, your Dad's pc should run fine. The fx 8320 is more for a gaming pc.

 
For 30 dollars more though, I wouldn't hesitate to just go with the 8320. I think the extra cores will help out with running multiple programs, and especially the program this is giving you fits. The ram is another issue, but since you'll be upgrading cpu/motherboard, you have to upgrade the Ram anyways, so that's not an issue to just buy 8gb's. If the motherboard I linked isn't great(I didn't check on it honestly), you can spend a little more and get a better board like the one that was listed earlier and you'll be fine.

What else is the pc used for? I'm wondering because you have a 7870 in the setup, but that's overkill for basic web browing.
 

Stranger220

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I meant to put Radeon 7770 HD. I actually have the 7870 HD on my PC and gave my dad the 7770 when I upgraded.