Buying a new PC! *First time build*

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Approximate Purchase Date: Today.

Budget Range: 1100-1200$ After shipping.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Web, School.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website for Parts: Newegg.com

Location: USA (Oregon)

Parts Preferences: None.

Overclocking: No.

SLI or Crossfire: No.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I don't need a mouse/Keyboard Speakers & Optical Drive.
Also wanting to play games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3 etc on High/Ultra Resolution if possible.

Whats your thoughts on this?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22722792
 
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It's a good build, but I'd say you're overpaying in some areas. Especially if...
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Your CPU and motherboard are not compatible!

You need to either go with an LGA 1150 CPU or an LGA 1155 board. Personally I would stay with that motherboard and switch to THIS CPU if you will overclock because I like the Z87 USB 3/SATA 3 over the older chipsets. If you don't overclock, you can buy a cheaper LGA 1150 CPU, like an i5-4570 or 4430. For gaming you won't notice any difference with those CPUs and you really don't need an after market heatsink -- the Intel heatsink works fine if you don't overclock. I've built a bunch of Z87 systems and none at stock run over 60C under stress testing with Prime95 with the Intel heatsink.
 
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It's a good build, but I'd say you're overpaying in some areas. Especially if you're expecting to do gaming, that GPU is great, but I'd say it'll be about equivalent in brute graphics processing power to the PS4's GPU. Now, in your introduction to PC gaming your first priority should be to build something with a GPU you can gloat about being more powerful than a PS4, haha :p

Your CPU is good.

Your motherboard is incompatible with your CPU which isn't good, it's a tad pricey, and it's purpose built for overclocking (though you could get a great board for overclocking that's compatible at a lower price).

Consider getting a 64 GB SSD. SSD's main advantage is putting your OS on it for fast boot times. There's not a lot of space on a 120 GB for games anyway so 64 GB will be much better suited than the far more costly 120 GB.

I'd recommend a 1 TB HDD. The larger an HDD is, the more prone it is to failure so I don't trust getting a 2 TB. You could always just buy an extra HDD when you run out, whenever that is. I personally have 100 games on my 1 TB HDD and I still have 354 GB left.

Your case is pretty good, if maybe a tad costly (?).

Your monitor is awesome. I should know, I have the same one.

Here's what I'd recommend:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=23121625

In the end it's basically the same build but with a stronger GPU, a compatible Motherboard, and I've saved you a few bucks.

EDIT: Well, it's almost the same monitor. Mine is a tad pricier but it's still an ASUS from the same product line.
 
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If he's planning to Overclock or at least have it as an option in future, I wouldn't recommend moving up to Haswell. From what I've heard they're quite bad at overclocking but then again, I've known many different people to have quite different experiences from what is generally accepted by the majority of forums. But you're right, the heatsink is really more optional, however I'd recommend still getting one if he can afford it A. Because there's always the option of overclocking in future and B. It's an excellent heatsink even without overclocking. On my FX-6300 OC'ed to 4.6 GHz I still don't get more than 51 degrees under gaming load or during stress testing.
 
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That's interesting Deus, I build a hundred or so systems a year and loads of NAS boxes. Not trying to be confrontational, but a couple things really caught my eye.

Can you provide me some actual data on this statement: "The larger an HDD is, the more prone it is to failure so I don't trust getting a 2 TB." I've never seen any data on this for current devices and I think that it is just not true. I live on the storagereview.com forums and am a storage junkie so new information is always welcome.

I also think that recommending smaller SSDs is bad advice. Smaller SSDs are generally slower due to the smaller number of NAND chips and the minimal cost difference is not a savings in the long term.
 
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I've mostly heard the idea of a larger HDD resulting in failure from forums and a few PC building balancing/budgeting guides. Basically the idea goes that there are more platters and heads susceptible to failure, as well as a higher chance of bit error rates. Lastly, no matter how efficient an HDD it's bound to fail eventually, but the consequences of this failure can be somewhat mitigated by dividing the data up among 2 different HDDs rather than 1 large HDD. Basically, losing half your data vs losing all your data.

As for the SSDs, you might have me there. I don't actually own an SSD myself but from what I've researched they're not at a point where a large storage SSD is affordable enough to use them for storage beyond putting an OS and some key files on them so 64 GB makes more sense in that perspective than a 120 GB SSD. I've never seen anything regarding a lower capacity SSD resulting in slower read/write speeds but if that's the case then exactly what is the difference in read/write speeds from a lower capacity SSD to a larger one? I'm assuming that even a 64 GB SSD will still vastly outperform any HDDs, and the savings are around $30 so I guess it's really up to the buyer's discretion on this one?
 
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maybe i'm missing some thing but it say's this wish list is empty?
i don't think i need a 2TB anyways, and like you said i could always just buy another HDD later on if i need to.
i'll go with the 64Gb SSD over the 120Gb one as well. Thanks!
 
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Strange, the wishlist is viewable for me when I'm not logged in?
Oh well, here's the individual parts:

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117
Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095
SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211601
MoBo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745
HSF - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
 
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Alright Sweet thanks! but i am wondering, if my Case is a a little pricey could you recommend a better one?
 
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Alright, i think i shall go with that case.
Thanks for all the help i'm going to purchase it all in about an hour.
Hopefully the waiting wont be all that bad...
 
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