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August 25, 2013 4:52:37 AM

My GTX 285 died in a (lieteral) flaming glory.... just caught fire and died.
I have no spare GPU to hold me over so I am pretty urgent on this. Looking to buy this week.

I have been looking and there is so much conflincting info.

I have a core i7 with 6gb ram with a 750w powersupply

I play Borderlands 2, Skyrim (HD pack), BF3 mainly.
I am not a hardcore fanatic so don't want to pay a fortune.
I just want a card that will last a few years and still look nice until I have to upgrade the whole unit.
I would like to play things like the new Tombraider, crysis 3, batman arkham origins, dishonored, thief (reboot), and so on (pretty much everything I can get my hands on at the sales)

I can't tell from all the technical jargon which of these will make a noticable difference to play on a 1920x1080 screen.

My first choice (price vs perrformance) is the GTX 650 ti boost oc 2GB - but they seem hard to get in my country (Australia).

The HD7870 myst (7850 2GB
POWERCOLOR PCS+ - apparently like the 7870 xt) and the gtx 660ti (MSI N660TI 2G)are the next step up, but slightly above what I wanted to pay. They are about the same price but around $50-60 more than the GTX 650 ti boost oc. But if availability stays limited I will have pay up, as I don't wnat to wait too long.

I am unsure about ATI as I have not had one for years (the last time was when they were crap and didn't run many games - like 15 years ago). So have developed a brand loyalty to nvidia. I realise this is probably no longer founded. However, the physx sounds nice -even if i probably never notice)

Any suggestions with some sound reasoning would be appreciated.

It seems that they all out perform each other on specific tests, but can the average person actually notice the difference?

Does the 256bit vs 192 bit make enough difference to sway the arguement?

Thanks for the help.

August 25, 2013 5:01:28 AM

micromil said:
My GTX 285 died in a (lieteral) flaming glory.... just caught fire and died.
I have no spare GPU to hold me over so I am pretty urgent on this. Looking to buy this week.

I have been looking and there is so much conflincting info.

I have a core i7 with 6gb ram with a 750w powersupply

I play Borderlands 2, Skyrim (HD pack), BF3 mainly.
I am not a hardcore fanatic so don't want to pay a fortune.
I just want a card that will last a few years and still look nice until I have to upgrade the whole unit.
I would like to play things like the new Tombraider, crysis 3, batman arkham origins, dishonored, thief (reboot), and so on (pretty much everything I can get my hands on at the sales)

I can't tell from all the technical jargon which of these will make a noticable difference to play on a 1920x1080 screen.

My first choice (price vs perrformance) is the GTX 650 ti boost oc 2GB - but they seem hard to get in my country (Australia).

The HD7870 myst (7850 2GB
POWERCOLOR PCS+ - apparently like the 7870 xt) and the gtx 660ti (MSI N660TI 2G)are the next step up, but slightly above what I wanted to pay. They are about the same price but around $50-60 more than the GTX 650 ti boost oc. But if availability stays limited I will have pay up, as I don't wnat to wait too long.

I am unsure about ATI as I have not had one for years (the last time was when they were crap and didn't run many games - like 15 years ago). So have developed a brand loyalty to nvidia. I realise this is probably no longer founded. However, the physx sounds nice -even if i probably never notice)

Any suggestions with some sound reasoning would be appreciated.

It seems that they all out perform each other on specific tests, but can the average person actually notice the difference?

Does the 256bit vs 192 bit make enough difference to sway the arguement?

Thanks for the help.


My choice would be the GTX 760 it outperforms the 660ti,7870,and the 660 too.a 760 is all u need for 1080p.
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August 25, 2013 3:02:52 PM

Thanks for the suggestions
But the 760 is (in Australia where we are over charged for everything ccomputer) a big jump in cost about an extra $100 I would prefer not to spend.
(GTX650tiboost AUD$179, GTX 660Ti AUD $239, HD7870Myst AUD$229, GTX760gigabyte OC AUD$329)
Hence the dilemma.
I need to watch the budget.
If I was keen to wait maybe I would order from overseas but I don't want to be without my pc for a few weeks. Price probably the same when you add shipping and exchange rate.
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August 25, 2013 7:35:17 PM

micromil said:
Thanks for the suggestions
But the 760 is (in Australia where we are over charged for everything ccomputer) a big jump in cost about an extra $100 I would prefer not to spend.
(GTX650tiboost AUD$179, GTX 660Ti AUD $239, HD7870Myst AUD$229, GTX760gigabyte OC AUD$329)
Hence the dilemma.
I need to watch the budget.
If I was keen to wait maybe I would order from overseas but I don't want to be without my pc for a few weeks. Price probably the same when you add shipping and exchange rate.

ouch!
looking at what you're facing for pricing, i think you might want to look at the HD7870Myst. it will give a noticeably better performance than the 650ti boost and battle with the 660ti with being slightly better in a few games such as tomb raider, hitman absolution and sleeping dogs.
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August 25, 2013 9:26:46 PM


ouch!
looking at what you're facing for pricing, i think you might want to look at the HD7870Myst. it will give a noticeably better performance than the 650ti boost and battle with the 660ti with being slightly better in a few games such as tomb raider, hitman absolution and sleeping dogs.
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ouch!
looking at what you're facing for pricing, i think you might want to look at the HD7870Myst. it will give a noticeably better performance than the 650ti boost and battle with the 660ti with being slightly better in a few games such as tomb raider, hitman absolution and sleeping dogs.


Thanks for the advice.
In Australia we call it the Australia tax - a random 10-300% price hike, just because you live in Australia.

I have found a gtx 760 galaxy for AUD$299
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab50416-galaxy_gefo...
vs the gigabyte oc version
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab49880-gigabyte_ge...

I might be able to convince myself to get it. Is there much difference between the two?
It seems that they have more fans on the oc.

Would a 7870 myst still be better value, there doesn't seem a lot of difference in the tech specs of the 7870 myst and 760's?
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August 26, 2013 2:24:44 AM

gigabyte, better cooler and since the gpu boost 2.0 temps matter to help get a higher overclock as much as power limit.
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August 26, 2013 5:21:04 AM

qbsinfo said:
gigabyte, better cooler and since the gpu boost 2.0 temps matter to help get a higher overclock as much as power limit.


So the Galaxy is not really worht getting. Better the gigabyte.

That extra $100 is hard to come to terms with.

So is the suggestion is 7870 xt/myst over the 660ti - because the 256bit will offer smoother framerates at 1920x1080, and physx not a real big benefit?
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August 26, 2013 6:15:34 AM


you can get the galaxy, i mentioned why the gigabyte would be better. and i don't know about the frame rates being smoother stuff because of the bandwidth. just over a year ago couple of reviews tested the 660ti with high AA and found at higher resolutions (above 1080) the performance takes a bit of a nosedive when 8x msaa was applied. in a few cases just 4x msaa effected it. here is two of them:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/27/nvidia_geforc...

the first one is all higher resolutions and the second has 1080. at the resolution you're playing at, 1080, the bandwidth isn't going to make a difference. - well it could but with an nvidia card there is a program called NVinspector (third party program) that allows you to customize the type of anti aliasing. you select 2x msaa and 2x sgssaa (sparse grid super sampling) and the results looks like 4x msaa with the performance hit of 2x msaa.

btw when you do look at those benchmarks - keep in mind amd cards have imp[rocved considerable since thier drivers have improved in game performance.

but i suggested the 7870xt/myst because it was $10 less than the 660ti with about the same performance. the 760 is a really nice card but the $100 difference your facing is a bit tough to justify . . it will perform and overclock betteer than any of the cards for it will fall short of $100 more.
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September 1, 2013 4:44:43 AM

Thanks for your advice qbsinfo
You have given very good unbiased advice. - much appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to help out and explain.

I have chosen to get the 7870 Myst.
It seems great, handles everything well so far.

I read an interesting article saying that the future of gaming graphics may be poised for a big upheaval as the graphics memory of the new consoles is huge, and so will have an effect on the PC graphics future. Also some of the older DX versions are being no longer supported as XP is being left behind (among other things), so progress won't need to be held back by limited platforms (or something).
Don't know how true all of this is though. We shall see what happens.

So I decided on the lesser cost card for now.
They threw in a nice free game just for asking.

Thanks again.
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