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Hey everyone I am doing some research to gain a greater understanding of water cooling but can somebody answer 2 questions of mine I can't find the answer.

1.) If I mix and match the components of my water cooling, as long as the fitting are the right size and the tubing fits will I be okay, regardless the brand?

2.) Is there a performance difference between: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20826/ex-vga-37/EVGA_GeForce_GTX_780_HydroCopper_SLI_Ready_Graphics_Card_03G-P4-2789-KR.html?tl=g56 and manually taking the back and front plate off of the GPU and buying a aftermarket one and attaching it to the GPU yourself?
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  1. 1. generally yes. just be sure to check as you said fitting/tube size(as most blocks will use the standard g1/4" threads on the side that connects to the blocks/reservoir) and be sure that the waterblocks match the cpu/gpu you want.

    2. there will always be slight differences in temperature, but they will be treated as equals for the sake of comparing two full block waterblocks
  2. 1. No problem

    2. I would recommend buying the pre-assembled units whenever possible. Less work, warranty support, guaranteed fit. There are 8 different 780 GPUs .... you must use a matched full cover water block or it won't correctly line up.....very few options available for non reference cards. Otherwise stuck with a GPU WB only and nothing for the MOFSETS / VRM

    http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/
  3. 1. u can do it with no probs
    2. a factory fitted lcs is an o.c.ed card with warranty also included at that o.c. its a great option u can even o.c. the evga card to great higher clocks
  4. I have looked at the fittings and tube sizes and even took a glance at the water cooling sticky on this website but I am still quite confused if anyone could kindly assist me, I would greatly appreciate it...or if you can at least better explain to me what type of size of tube and fittings I should be looking for or is the pump and cpu and gpu blocks one size fits all? I will greatly appreciate it.

    Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139019

    I have picked out my 2 graphics cards - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130923

    Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

    CPU - I currently have the I7 3930k but I am hoping to get the 4930k when that comes out, will I need a different motherboard?
  5. RyiStahl said:
    I have looked at the fittings and tube sizes and even took a glance at the water cooling sticky on this website but I am still quite confused if anyone could kindly assist me, I would greatly appreciate it...or if you can at least better explain to me what type of size of tube and fittings I should be looking for or is the pump and cpu and gpu blocks one size fits all? I will greatly appreciate it.

    Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139019

    I have picked out my 2 graphics cards - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130923

    Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

    CPU - I currently have the I7 3930k but I am hoping to get the 4930k when that comes out, will I need a different motherboard?


    For processor water blocks there are different sizes based on what processor you use. What you need to do is look up what chip size is the processor you are wanting to use from there look at the water blocks to see if they have a mount for that size of the chip.

    Right now the 780 with gpu assembled all ready to use is probably your best bet. It isn't that much more expensive then using an after market water block. (only like $10)

    In my opinion choosing the right pump is the hardest. Depending on how big your water cooling system is depends on what kind of pump you need. (How many components and how hard are you working your system)
  6. Ok, if I go with the GTX 780 hydro copper, if I want to test it out as soon as I get it, will I just plug it in to my motherboard and not put on any tubes and test it or? I want to make sure its not DOA (dead on arrival)
  7. if you need a reference, Swiftech actually designed the waterblock for that specific EVGA gpu. Its basically a branded Swiftech Komodo 780 block tailored specifically to EVGA's needs
  8. Best answer
    That case is really .....really ..... really HUGE ....it's as tall as a hobbit :)

    I'd take a gander at The Phanteks Enthoo
    http://phanteks.com/#&panel1-1&panel2-1

    You want bay reservoir or internal ? Here's one I did cupla times today using bay reservoir

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    CPU Loop

    Radiator - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Dual 140mm Radiator 324 x 144 x 60mm
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html

    Radiator Gasket - XSPC 2 x 140mm Radiator Gasket - 3mm (2 for pull / 3 for push pull)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20857/ex-rad-629/XSPC_2_x_140mm_Radiator_Gasket_-_3mm.html

    Reservoir Pump - Alphacool Repack Dual 5.25" Acrylic Reservoir - Clear - w/ D5 Variant Pump Installed (15171) and Swiftech MCP655™ 12v Water Pump w/ Speed Control Option (+$15)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20791/ex-res-616/Alphacool_Repack_Dual_525_Acrylic_Reservoir_-_Clear_-_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Installed_15171.html?tl=g30c97s152

    Water Block - XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Black Edition (Intel) (Sockets LGA 115x / 1366 / 2011)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16546/ex-blc-1168/XSPC_RayStorm_High_Performance_Acetal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Black_Edition_Intel_Sockets_LGA_115x_1366_2011.html

    WB Cover Plate - XSPC Aluminum Red Edition Mounting Face Plate - Intel Raystorm CPU Block
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20746/ex-blc-1485/XSPC_Aluminum_Red_Edition_Mounting_Face_Plate_-_Intel_Raystorm_CPU_Block.html

    Tubing Adapter .... Bitspower Matte Black Ultimate G 1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD Rotary Compression Fitting (BP-MBRCPF-CC2) 2 for Water Block, 2 for Pump, 2 for Rad, 2 for reservoir so 8
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11107/ex-tub-700/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Ultimate_G_14_Thread_38_ID_x_12_OD_Rotary_Compression_Fitting_BP-MBRCPF-CC2.html?tl=g30c409s1032

    Tubing - Tygon 2475 Ultra Chemical Resistant Plasticizer Free Tubing - 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) - Clear (ACG00027) .... Figure 10 feet
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10691/ex-tub-663/Tygon_2475_Ultra_Chemical_Resistant_Plasticizer_Free_Tubing_-_38_ID_12_OD_-_Clear_ACG00027.html


    CPU Loop

    Radiator - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Dual 140mm Radiator 324 x 144 x 60mm
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html

    Radiator Gasket - XSPC 2 x 140mm Radiator Gasket - 3mm (2 for pull / 3 for push pull)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20857/ex-rad-629/XSPC_2_x_140mm_Radiator_Gasket_-_3mm.html

    Reservoir Pump - Alphacool Repack Dual 5.25" Acrylic Reservoir - Clear - w/ D5 Variant Pump Installed (15171) and Swiftech MCP655™ 12v Water Pump w/ Speed Control Option (+$15)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20791/ex-res-616/Alphacool_Repack_Dual_525_Acrylic_Reservoir_-_Clear_-_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Installed_15171.html?tl=g30c97s152

    Water Block - XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Black Edition (Intel) (Sockets LGA 115x / 1366 / 2011)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16546/ex-blc-1168/XSPC_RayStorm_High_Performance_Acetal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Black_Edition_Intel_Sockets_LGA_115x_1366_2011.html

    WB Cover Plate - XSPC Aluminum Red Edition Mounting Face Plate - Intel Raystorm CPU Block
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20746/ex-blc-1485/XSPC_Aluminum_Red_Edition_Mounting_Face_Plate_-_Intel_Raystorm_CPU_Block.html

    Tubing Adapter .... Bitspower Matte Black Ultimate G 1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD Rotary Compression Fitting (BP-MBRCPF-CC2) 2 for Water Block, 2 for Pump, 2 for Rad, 2 for reservoir so 8
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11107/ex-tub-700/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Ultimate_G_14_Thread_38_ID_x_12_OD_Rotary_Compression_Fitting_BP-MBRCPF-CC2.html?tl=g30c409s1032

    Tubing - Tygon 2475 Ultra Chemical Resistant Plasticizer Free Tubing - 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) - Clear (ACG00027) .... Figure 10 feet
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10691/ex-tub-663/Tygon_2475_Ultra_Chemical_Resistant_Plasticizer_Free_Tubing_-_38_ID_12_OD_-_Clear_ACG00027.html


    You will need (3) 140mm fans for the GPU loop and (2) for the CPU loop....consider later if ya want push-pull.

    Accessories..... fluid ....distilled water recommended .... if ya must have color look at the Mayhem pastel stuff....think about biocides and corrosion inhibiter additives.

    Funnel ?
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10772/ex-res-193/PrimoChill_-_Threaded_G_14_Funnel_-_Black_PC-GF-BK.html?tl=g30c101s1206

    Some 45 and 90 bends might come in handy.
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11887/ex-tub-737/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Dual_Rotary_45-Degree_Compression_Fitting_CC2_For_ID_38_OD_12_Tube_BP-MB45R2CPF-CC2.html?tl=g30c409s1321
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10751/ex-tub-675/Bitspower_G14_Thread_90-Degree_Rotary_38_ID_x_12_OD_Compression_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MB90R2LCPF-CC2.html?tl=g30c409s1302

    Alternate 1 - Switch to cylinder reservoir if ya case don't have the bays available. (per loop , replaces Bay Reservoir)

    AquaComputer Pump Adapter w/ Aqualis Reservoir and Pump Installed + $15 variable speed pump option
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16994/ex-res-422/AquaComputer_Pump_Adapter_w_Aqualis_Reservoir_and_Pump_Installed.html?tl=g30c97s152

    Alternate 2 - Might also wanna consider 2 pumps in case one goes south (per loop , replaces Bay Reservoir)

    Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 150 - Black (BP-D5TOPUK150P-BKBKCL)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16077/ex-res-370/Bitspower_Dual_Single_D5_Top_Upgrade_Kit_150_-_Black_BP-D5TOPUK150P-BKBKCL.html

    Bitspower Dual D5 Mod Top Extreme - Acrylic / UV Red Version (BP-2D5TOPAC-UVRD)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11257/ex-pmp-103/Bitspower_Dual_D5_Mod_Top_Extreme_-_Acrylic_UV_Red_Version_BP-2D5TOPAC-UVRD.html

    with 2 x Swiftech MCP655q x 12v Water Pump w/ Variable Speed Control and 3/8" Conversion Kit (317 GPH)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6190/ex-pmp-54/Swiftech_MCP655_12v_Water_Pump_w_Speed_Control_and_38_Conversion_Kit_317_GPH.html

    ya not done.... but that gives ya the ballpark.......

    Might wanna look at this .....

    http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33364-Maximus-VI-Formula-Show-Casemod-MbK
  9. Will all those parts that you have listed below work together?

    ...and what if I wanted to get a bigger radiator, do I need to get a bigger reservoir pump as well?
  10. RyiStahl said:
    Will all those parts that you have listed below work together?

    ...and what if I wanted to get a bigger radiator, do I need to get a bigger reservoir pump as well?


    Yes all of those parts work together. The big thing about what parts are compatible is the fitting size needed. G 1/4 is the most common so I would recommend sticking with them.

    The pump JackNaylorPE listed is a good size pump for you. Any D5 pump will be good for your system even though you are paying a little bit more for one they will keep your system cool.

    Also the question about testing the gpu before putting together your water cooling system. As long as you only test it for a minute or two you will be fine. Assuming you will have nothing cooling your cpu at the time, your cpu temps will increase dramatically and could be harmful. At least when I first built my system my cpu got really hot really fast with out anything cooling it.

    I would recommend going with a 360 radiator though.
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14857/ex-rad-333/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Triple_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s161

    Also for the water block there isn't a difference between the black version and the normal version.. only looks
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14186/ex-blc-971/XSPC_RayStorm_High_Performance_Acetal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Intel_Sockets_LGA_115x_1366_2011.html?tl=g30c323s1205

    I would just get normal fittings if I were you. I would not get any angled ones UNLESS you are going for a certain look or need your system to look a certain way. Tubing bend quite a bit so you will be able to get it to connect to all of your fittings unless it is a tight spot. Angled fittings are expensive so unless you want to have your computer lay out a certain way there isn't a point in buying a couple of them.

    You can also get different color tubing as well you don't have to stick with clear. I would not recommend getting colored water for your system.

    It is a lot to take in and it is highly customizable to, there is no perfect solution to the question, but hopefully you can see what there is in it all.
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