Fx8350 and good gpu or i5 and new mobi

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

I know i5 is best for gaming and all that jazz so please keep the arguments aside.

My question is this.

Do I keep my extreme4 970 mobo and get a real nice graphics card or get an i5 and a new mobo and stick with this 7850.

1ST route il have £200 plus whatever I get for my current cpu and Gpu ( 965 BE and sapphire hd 7850) to buy a 8350 and a gpu

2ND route il have 200 and whatever i get for my cpu and mobo but keep 7850.

Im looking to game alot and not be restricted with what games i can play. Medium to high settings is ok but I would like high as possible. High fps too on a 1600x900.resolution

Basically im not interested in which one can get 200 fps on a game when in real world 60 is enough. Would I tell the difference between i5 and 8350 if they played the same game and I had to guess which was which?

I hope you understand what im saying lol. Im also on my phone so excuse any typos

Jack Revenant · Aug 26, 2013

Going with option 1. The FX8350 is a fine CPU, if not the single most optimal for gaming. The performance gains from a better GPU and an 8350 would be drastically higher than the gains from an i5 with your current GPU.

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

danryder :

Up the graphics card. i5's and the 8350 trade blows in games, so you won't see a difference there. Though a bigger, better, badder GPU would make a huge difference. Get a 7970 GHz if you have the cash...if not, go to at least a 7870XT or a 7950.

oczdude8 · Aug 26, 2013

yea I agree, both cpus will not bottleneck any new gpus, and the only difference between the i5 and fx8350 will be in synthetic benchmarks, which are useless to you.

Just get a new gpu, save yourself the time and hassle of selling lots of parts.

A 660ti or a 760 both will give you at least 60fps on any game on ultra at 1080p (900p should be EZ). Anything higher will be for those who run multi-monitor setups or those who swear that they can feel 120fps even though they have a 60hz monitor (also bragging rights

).

I have assembled a system running fx8350 with 2 760s in sli and it ran like a dream.

JD88 · Aug 26, 2013

Are you having issues with any games currently? The 965 BE is still a solid CPU and the 7850 should be fine for most games at 1600x900. I don't think an 8350 would be that much of an upgrade for you and I don't really think a new GPU is necessary to play most games on high settings at that resolution.

I would save for a complete system upgrade maybe a year or two down the road and buy a higher res monitor then as well.

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

Have a baby due in a few weeks so I need to get what I can now and be abit future proof for a good few years. As for this 965 be im pretty sure the 8350 will fly compared to this. Trying to play armah 2 is a nightmare. I also do not overclock at all. Except for the 4.2 turbo thing on the 8350

JD88 · Aug 26, 2013

The 8350 is hardly better at all in Arma 2 because the game isn't optimized for its architecture.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-13/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html

(Second game down)

33 FPS vs around 29 for the Phenom.

You're going to need an Intel processor to do much better. So in this case, an i5 and a motherboard would be the best upgrade.

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

Arma was just a example. BF3 Will be the main game. I should have said that lol.

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

JD88 :

There have been updates since those benchmarks from a year ago that make the gap quite a bit bigger...and Arma 3 is supposed to be more AMD friendly as well...

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

I have read about my mobo causing issues with the 8350 too... whats that about?

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

danryder :

There was a BIOS issue that was resolved a few months ago. As long as you are running the latest version of BIOS you are fine.

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

What About all this powerphase crap?

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

danryder :

Powerphase pertains to VRMs, you'll only need to worry about that if you overclock heavily. On a 970 series MB you can get a decent OC without too much issue, just try to get as much as you can at factory voltage before you go trying to do any more than that.

Anurag dcb · Aug 26, 2013

consoles now use 8 cores

~3 years time FX8350 would blow the crap out of i5 just because it is octa core

most games have some sort of ports

e.g rockstar already made the game gta 5 but havent developed it for next gen and pc.
they have two options
1. redo all coding
2. port from consoles to next gen and pc

if option 2 is what they pick (imagine they do this in 3 years time) it s obviously going to run better on octa core pc

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

Well I think the 8350 it is. Also I have a CM 212 + cooler and HAF 912 case with intake and 2 exhausts fans. This enough to keep this thing cool.? What temps am I looking at?

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

danryder :

I have mine OC'ed to 4.4 and see idle around 27-30C typically and load will creep up into the high 40s to low 50's, though I have only 1 fan on my CM 212 EVO, and my case has 4 case fans to your 3...so it should be fine.

danryder · Aug 26, 2013

So to round up.

If I get an Fx8350 and a nice gpu while keeping my mobo. My machine will fly and handle any game I want with high fps and 1600x900 resolution

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

Should work like a champ.

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

hafijur :

JD88 :

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-16/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html

There are so many games were intels 2x better ipc over amd pays off so intel are currently the best experience at games.

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Also Anurag dcb the i5 would still blow the fx8350 at games as the fx8350 ipc is so poor and an i5 4670k oc to like 4.2ghz probably beats the fx8350 at multithreaded tasks already. That review just made me realise what amd owners have to put up with slngle core performance from 6-7 years ago. Thats why a core 2 quad and an fx8350 perform similar in a lot of games. fx8350 equivalent to a 2.4ghz c2d from 2006 at single threaded apps. AMD will need all 8 cores of the fx8350 to work at 100% to beat a stock i5 4670k by 1 or 2 fps.

Show me what you're talking about in Crysis 3?? How do they fare in that game? Bioshock Infinite? Tomb Raider? How about BF3 multiplayer?

Don't bother showing something the OP wouldn't play...they like FPS type games.

8350rocks · Aug 26, 2013

hafijur :

When are those from? The 3570k and newer Intel CPUs aren't even on there...and I would bet none of the newer FPS games he would like are included in that since Crysis 3 came out this year, and that's from before the 3570k that came out last year...

oczdude8 · Aug 27, 2013

As the OP said, hes not interested in getting record setting fps in games. He just playable fps which is MORE then manageable with a fx8350. you might get higher rates with an i7 4770k, but its not necessary to be able to play a game, just good for bragging rights.

I think it would be a no brainer, if having to decide between an i5 and a weak gpu vs fx8350 and a strong gpu for gaming. People even use i3s and fx6300 with no problems.

In games, the benefits of having a strong gpu greatly outweigh the benefits of having a slightly faster cpu (the fx8350 is actually stronger in a lot things other then gaming.)

logainofhades · Aug 27, 2013

I would take an FX 8350 with a strong GPU over an i5 with a weaker GPU any day for a gaming rig. I would go with a GTX 760 if you can. It is definitely a strong performer for the money.

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