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August 26, 2013 6:17:45 PM

Hello there, I will be as clear as possible here, I am in the market for the BEST possible hardware that i can get at this price range, that will get me the BEST possible speed to play a few modern day and extensive PC games, and provide me with OPTIMAL performance in video editing needs, the computer must be stylish, Case options must be Black-Blue, or just look cool or futuristic, be easy to carry, and easy to access things like the USB ports and what not.

The main use of the PC will be for Video Editing purposes, I want to get the highest possible speed to be able to edit and encode the highest quality videos at the fastest speeds and still have enough horsepower left to do other tasks on the computer with little effort. I am a complete noob at building PC's so i want this build to be easy to setup, easy to access and easy to upgrade whenever I need to.

Here are some general requirements to help you understand where I'm coming from-

1. Cool case/exterior (Black or Blue, Blue Or Black, Anything that isn't red will be considered) *If you have monitor suggestions, thats okay too.*

2. Cheap but EFFECTIVE and the best hardware money can buy at my price range. (I will be using Windows 7)
This includes silent yet good fans, reliable hardware, and something that's similar to a plug and play setup for a newbie like myself.

3. Easy to use and setup, stuff thats mostly automatic or not hard to do manually, (I've never built a PC before, and I've only read up but so many guides, please bare with me and describe in detail why you think I should consider a suggestion, and explain to me what that build offers that other builds dont't ETC. Also, please make sure the computer is not too heavy, but not too light, accessibility is what matters.

4. Big and reliable HDD's/methods of storage, just the best stuff possible, fast computer, reliable, no overheating issues, etc etc basic stuff, I want a PC that will last for a very long time and serve me well.

Again, style is very important, and anything that is in the 1-2TB range is what I'm looking for... Multiple HDD's or several big HDD's are optimal, since video editing requires a lot of space, If you have any other side suggestions that might make the budget slightly higher, please post some notes next to the suggestions, again this is my first build.. I dont want to break anything or do anything wrong, and i want it to be successful... Thanks for helping.

And yeah... just.. the best stuff to access the best stuff... Enhanced rendering speeds, etc...

If i didnt make any sense, please read according to your guidelines below..


Approximate Purchase Date: Around 1-2 months 9/?/13 ~ 10/?/13

Budget Range: $500-$550 Its a very strict budget, highest I could go would be $560, please help, i really want an awesome and reliable computer at this price range.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video Editing! This computer will be mainly used for Video Editing, and on the side
some modern gaming would be good too gaming doesnt have to be too powerful, as long as its adequate, and the Video Editing
ability is MAXIMIZED then I will be satisfied. On the side, some fast internet browsing and a lot of data storage space would be cool too,
a kind of "Plug and Play" setup.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, most likely, I dont know, a wide range of cheapish but effective monitors that range from small, possibly smaller then this
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS229H-P-22-Inch-Class-21-5-...
To anything slightly bigger. Anybody got any good monitor recommendations? I want one thats easy to carry, very portable, isnt too hard on the eyes, cheap, has speakers,
and is capable of wide screen etc etc... Basically a monitor that is very easy to work on and place just about anywhere!

Parts to Upgrade: Completely New Build.

Do you need to buy OS: Nope, I have all the OS's ill ever need in this lifetime, but I will be using Windows 7.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon? Or anywhere else where its easy to just purchase what I need at reasonable prices! Recommended places are perferred if the masters
of buying particular parts insist it.

Location: East Coast, US

Parts Preferences: I've always had pre made Intel computers, but i hear that AMD is pretty reliable, I wouldnt mind trying it out.. especially since its for gaming...
So, ill be placing my faith in something new.

Overclocking: I'm not sure if ill be using this... but if someone recommends It, then why not? It makes the computer operate faster no? And with enough fans it probably wont
be much of a big deal, but having options is always nice I suppose. Still, this system will be used mainly for video editing, so if the computer needs to go into hyperdrive
mode, let me know now, I just want the fastest and healthiest rendering times for my computer, to where it wont overheat, and where it can get things done within hours, not
the next day, or two days after, its time I got a computer that is capable of some serious tinkering.

SLI or Crossfire: Not sure, may not be using it, just want a simple but reliable and powerful build.

Your Monitor Resolution: I have no idea, but I want the highest possible resoultion at the lowest price, right now on my computer, I'm using a 1600X900, so anything around
that size is good I guess, still, small is always nice, again, recommendations are always welcomed.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I'm "Upgrading" because what i have isnt good enough to fit my needs, I need a new reliable computer... something that I can trust
with all my important needs... A computer that can hold a lot of files and operate very quickly with those files at an affordable price, If this computer that I am requesting
is possible to get, and create with a low amount of hassle, then you will be doing a great deed for someone who has no idea what they are doing, I really appreciate anyone
willing to give me quick help, tips, and information regarding my request. Once again, I am a complete newbie at this sort of thing, but i keep hearing from my peers
about how awesome it is to build a computer that is tailored to your needs, as soon as i can build one from the help of some experts, I will begin doing my own research
In the future, so that I may begin properly, Its just that I need to do this very quickly, and I dont have the technological know how to be able to quickly make a speedy
decision, thus, I place my trust in experts such as yourselves. I have great confidence that someone here can help me post haste, with a reasonable answer... I thank you.
a c 271 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 2:52:09 PM

$550 is a really tricky budget to work with especially if you need some serious processing power.

Maybe do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 2GB Video Card ($97.38 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $646.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:46 EDT-0400)\

If that's way over budget then maybe try something like this and not use a GPU until you can afford one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-ITX R2.0 Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard ($91.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $541.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:49 EDT-0400)

While Intel CPUs are faster, the on board video is not as good. While AMD APUs are a bit slower, the onboard video is fast enough that it can be a dedicated GPU substitute until you can afford one.
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August 29, 2013 6:47:57 PM

g-unit1111 said:
$550 is a really tricky budget to work with especially if you need some serious processing power.

Maybe do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 2GB Video Card ($97.38 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $646.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:46 EDT-0400)\

If that's way over budget then maybe try something like this and not use a GPU until you can afford one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-ITX R2.0 Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard ($91.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $541.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:49 EDT-0400)

While Intel CPUs are faster, the on board video is not as good. While AMD APUs are a bit slower, the onboard video is fast enough that it can be a dedicated GPU substitute until you can afford one.

I would not go with this build he is spending money in all the wrong places
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a c 271 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 7:28:29 PM

giliara said:

I would not go with this build he is spending money in all the wrong places
PCPartPicker


That's actually a pretty good build, but I will say get a different power supply. The CX series are not exactly known for build quality.
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August 29, 2013 9:03:51 PM

giliara said:
g-unit1111 said:
$550 is a really tricky budget to work with especially if you need some serious processing power.

Maybe do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 2GB Video Card ($97.38 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $646.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:46 EDT-0400)\

If that's way over budget then maybe try something like this and not use a GPU until you can afford one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-ITX R2.0 Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard ($91.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $541.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 17:49 EDT-0400)

While Intel CPUs are faster, the on board video is not as good. While AMD APUs are a bit slower, the onboard video is fast enough that it can be a dedicated GPU substitute until you can afford one.

I would not go with this build he is spending money in all the wrong places
PCPartPicker



Any reason why your build is better or...??

Curious since I want to get the best bang for my buck, anyone who feels that they can do better is welcome to offer their professional opinion.

Hmm, the price seems to fit my description in pricing... will the 6 core cpu affect rendering speeds?
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August 29, 2013 10:02:59 PM

It's always hard when focusing on a budget build like this. First thing to consider is the case. You definitely don't spend $80 on a case unless that is your ultimate case and you plan to upgrade it latter, but you don't go with crap either. Same goes for the PSU.


Xigmatek ASGARD 381 CCC-AD38BV-U03 Black/Orange Steel / Plastic / Metal Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black $24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-3240 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 55W $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Core Edition FX-785A-ZNL4 Radeon HD 7850 1GB $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For a grand total of $517.93 before shipping costs of course :D . Now if there is once place you can cut it would be the motherboard. If you do not plan to upgrade to a k series CPU latter on and overclock it and don't plan on doing crossfire ever then you can get a simpler and slightly cheaper board. Since you want to do video stuff though it would be good to choose a board with Lucid Virtu so that you can use the Intel GPU for video decoding (it's not that long ago that such words were considered ridiculous :D . ). You shouldn't go with a cheaper CPU since you would loose out on hyperthreading with a pentium CPU.
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August 30, 2013 6:11:02 AM

megamanx00 said:
It's always hard when focusing on a budget build like this. First thing to consider is the case. You definitely don't spend $80 on a case unless that is your ultimate case and you plan to upgrade it latter, but you don't go with crap either. Same goes for the PSU.


Xigmatek ASGARD 381 CCC-AD38BV-U03 Black/Orange Steel / Plastic / Metal Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black $24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-3240 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 55W $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON DVD Burner $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Core Edition FX-785A-ZNL4 Radeon HD 7850 1GB $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For a grand total of $517.93 before shipping costs of course :D . Now if there is once place you can cut it would be the motherboard. If you do not plan to upgrade to a k series CPU latter on and overclock it and don't plan on doing crossfire ever then you can get a simpler and slightly cheaper board. Since you want to do video stuff though it would be good to choose a board with Lucid Virtu so that you can use the Intel GPU for video decoding (it's not that long ago that such words were considered ridiculous :D . ). You shouldn't go with a cheaper CPU since you would loose out on hyperthreading with a pentium CPU.


Your list seems pretty cheap, but I'm a bit skeptical, maybe thats too much of a budget list? Kind of taking a look at "giliara's" option, since it gives a lot of versatility regarding the case, *SSD,HDD,some more bays.. on the side* thats always nice.

Any updates?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 7:44:19 AM

Forgot to add memory to that list. Like I said with some memory it comes out to $567.92. As for Giliara's option he's using a mini-itx cases which limits you more as far as versatility. You're limited to itx motherboards and you can only use one video card. It's not like you can add in a tv tuner or video capture card latter on other than by USB. If you want the system small mini-itx is fine, but I wouldn't put $80 towards a case when your budget is only $500.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 7:45:00 AM

I would add that the 1TB Western Digital Blue is a good value from NCIX
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 9:13:56 AM

What software are you using?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 9:44:55 AM

Get this build and overclock it later when you have the money to get a good CPU Cooler. This is a beast for Video Editing and good enough for gaming.

+ 8 core 8320 is a beast for Video Editing (A lot more better when overclocked)
+ 16GB RAM is Ideal for Video Editing
+ Zalman Z9 is exactly the type of case you want. Black with Blue
+ The board is overclocking capable and hence in the future you can overclock the hell out of it by investing in a good CPU Cooler afterwards.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($110.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $567.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-30 12:45 EDT-0400)

I hope this helps. Take a look and tell me what you think about it. Your feedback would be highly appreciated.
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August 30, 2013 9:00:04 PM

k1114 said:
What software are you using?


Any and all software, I have no preference.

So far I am liking Sangeet Khatri's build, it seems pretty powerful and very optimized.


Not to mention a 3.5GHZ at a budget price, with an 8 core, which enables some good multitasking, a goodish cheap case...

Im impressed how he was able to even create a build that was tailored in such a way, I am impressed.
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August 30, 2013 9:39:12 PM

Well, first off I would plan on buying things whenever a good sale presents itself, but maybe give yourself a budget per part, and when it is lower than that,jump on it. So we'll do that by building a Pc now as a guideline, and use the prices for the parts as a baseline(because a full month's time gives us plenty of time to watch the sales as opposed being forced to buy something on sale now).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($168.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-31 00:32 EDT-0400)

I would get 8gb's of Ram now, and further down the road get another 8gb set. Won't have any issues adding it later for your rending programs. This allows you to get a better video card now(it's easier to add ram than to replace a video card) for better gaming performance. It will likely also help you out in rendering as well. Again, I recommend the 8 core 8320 Cpu that was recommended earlier, and there is a great sale on the motherboard to match it. The Ram is a good price right now, and makes sense here. You can find a good Psu for 30 dollars after MiR most weekends, this weekend it happens to be a 600w semi-modular unit from Ocz. I've owned four Ocz psu's so far, and I'm really happy with them. I've worked on a build using that case, and I like it. Has good cable routing options and fan locations for an outstanding price. The 7870ghz edition video card is a good value here, but if you can possibly spend up to 200 dollars on a card(out of your budget most likely) the 7950 can be had on sale. Lets not forget the 2 free games that comes with the 7870ghz edition card. Standard 1tb storage HDD.

Things to buy later are a cooler for the Cpu, and another 8gb's of Ram. By spending more on the video card now, you save money for performance later on.
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a c 565 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 10:35:07 PM

ComplexArray,

Responded to your PM
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August 31, 2013 6:01:05 AM

@swordkd

Your build is nice but :

1. The board is not able to overclock which is a big concern especially when you are going with 8320 which has ridiculous overclocking potential, the board should be an overclocking capable board.

2. The 7870 is awesomely powerful, but 8GB RAM is little less for Video Editing. Anyways if he is cool upgrading it later then it is fine, no problem there.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 31, 2013 6:27:35 AM

Anyways if you can go for 8GB RAM then this is what I recommend :

+ Motherboard is overclockable which is quite important for any build with an 8320.
+ 1866 Mhz RAM from Corsair is little better.
+ As mentioned earlier by swordkd the 7870 is a beast.
+ Thanks for mentioning that PSU. That one is really a beast.
+ Zalman Z9 is more good looking.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($168.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-31 09:24 EDT-0400)
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August 31, 2013 7:06:43 AM

ComplexArray said:
k1114 said:
What software are you using?


Any and all software, I have no preference.

So far I am liking Sangeet Khatri's build, it seems pretty powerful and very optimized.


Not to mention a 3.5GHZ at a budget price, with an 8 core, which enables some good multitasking, a goodish cheap case...

Im impressed how he was able to even create a build that was tailored in such a way, I am impressed.


Sangeet Khatri said:
Anyways if you can go for 8GB RAM then this is what I recommend :

+ Motherboard is overclockable which is quite important for any build with an 8320.
+ 1866 Mhz RAM from Corsair is little better.
+ As mentioned earlier by swordkd the 7870 is a beast.
+ Thanks for mentioning that PSU. That one is really a beast.
+ Zalman Z9 is more good looking.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($168.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-31 09:24 EDT-0400)


That is a pretty good optional setup, but you boosted the video card since I was saving on the ram, gotta ask, would 8GB ram hurt me for video editing vs a 16gb ram setup?

What difference would it make?

Also, the video card should have an effect as well.
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August 31, 2013 7:33:17 AM

Well.. to be exact :

1. 8GB RAM would hurt a bit on performance, but it can easily be fixed with another 50 dollars in the future and is very easy upgrade, so I would too suggest. Also 8GB should do just fine until you get your upgrade, so stick with 8gigs and hence this build.

2. Yes, the graphics card would make a lot of difference for gaming. The performance difference is quite a lot. Where the 7770 is a card aimed towards the lowest entry level market, the 7870 is a card aimed towards enthusiasts and can play any current or next gen game at good settings without any problem at all.

3. This is the performance difference between 7870 and the 7770. These benchmarks might help in deciding. It can be clearly seen the 7870 is almost twice as powerful as 7770. So it is totally worth it.



Hence I recommend the 2nd build as you can upgrade the RAM easily but you cannot upgrade the graphics card. So go with the 2nd build. 8GB's would take care of your editing until you upgrade and there would not be that much difference.

I hope this helps.
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August 31, 2013 8:58:52 AM

The AsRock board and the Asus board are both based on the 970 chipset, so their overall overclocking capabilities will be the same. If it wasn't an Asus board, I'd be worried about overclocking on it, but I've never had any issues overclocking on an Asus board. I just don't see a reason to spend the extra 30 dollars for the equivalent AsRock board.

Other than that, I didn't go with the Ram you had listed because if you read the original post, he prefers black/blue parts. Also, it's 75 dollars for the Ram with a 25 dollar MiR...a little high for my recommendation. If he's ok with the color and MiR, then that is the perfect set for this build. I like that case for this build though, never looked at it before. Essentially the same as what I listed, but it's cheaper. Either way, the cost is very close and I think he'll do fine with either 8gb Ram build.
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August 31, 2013 11:16:59 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
Well.. to be exact :

1. 8GB RAM would hurt a bit on performance, but it can easily be fixed with another 50 dollars in the future and is very easy upgrade, so I would too suggest. Also 8GB should do just fine until you get your upgrade, so stick with 8gigs and hence this build.

2. Yes, the graphics card would make a lot of difference for gaming. The performance difference is quite a lot. Where the 7770 is a card aimed towards the lowest entry level market, the 7870 is a card aimed towards enthusiasts and can play any current or next gen game at good settings without any problem at all.

3. This is the performance difference between 7870 and the 7770. It can be clearly seen the 7870 is almost twice as powerful as 7770. So it is totally worth it.

Hence I recommend the 2nd build as you can upgrade the RAM easily but you cannot upgrade the graphics card. So go with the 2nd build. 8GB's would take care of your editing until you upgrade and there would not be that much difference.

I hope this helps.



You guys werent kidding, I knew that video card had a big difference, but thats perfect for my budget especially if it can run those kinds
of games at those frame rates, and since installing ram is pretty easy, I can always upgrade fairly soon.

So with this I should have a good computer.

Then focus on overclocking after everything is setup? I could see that working.

Oh, gotta ask you guys, since I'm probably going to prefer USB 3.0, would it be better to get a USB hub or.. just get usb extension cables? Cord placement is difficult where I am.

Also, for style purposes, the G.Skill Sniper looks pretty cool with the ASRock, seems to mesh well.

Anybody else have anything to add here? Going to make a decision soon with the consultation of a peer.
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August 31, 2013 11:23:31 AM

Swordkd said:
The AsRock board and the Asus board are both based on the 970 chipset, so their overall overclocking capabilities will be the same. If it wasn't an Asus board, I'd be worried about overclocking on it, but I've never had any issues overclocking on an Asus board. I just don't see a reason to spend the extra 30 dollars for the equivalent AsRock board.

Other than that, I didn't go with the Ram you had listed because if you read the original post, he prefers black/blue parts. Also, it's 75 dollars for the Ram with a 25 dollar MiR...a little high for my recommendation. If he's ok with the color and MiR, then that is the perfect set for this build. I like that case for this build though, never looked at it before. Essentially the same as what I listed, but it's cheaper. Either way, the cost is very close and I think he'll do fine with either 8gb Ram build.


Well.. the LE version of the m5a79 board does not come with heatsinks on the VRM which is essential for overclocking.

The non LE version of the board has heatsinks in it. So I have no problem recommending that board.

But the M5A97 LE board is bad at overclocking. The M5A97 (non LE) version is a good board though.
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August 31, 2013 1:34:38 PM

On the DRAM, Snipers are a great choice for AMD builds
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August 31, 2013 3:06:02 PM

Swordkd said:
Well, first off I would plan on buying things whenever a good sale presents itself, but maybe give yourself a budget per part, and when it is lower than that,jump on it. So we'll do that by building a Pc now as a guideline, and use the prices for the parts as a baseline(because a full month's time gives us plenty of time to watch the sales as opposed being forced to buy something on sale now).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($168.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.49 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-31 00:32 EDT-0400)

I would get 8gb's of Ram now, and further down the road get another 8gb set. Won't have any issues adding it later for your rending programs. This allows you to get a better video card now(it's easier to add ram than to replace a video card) for better gaming performance. It will likely also help you out in rendering as well. Again, I recommend the 8 core 8320 Cpu that was recommended earlier, and there is a great sale on the motherboard to match it. The Ram is a good price right now, and makes sense here. You can find a good Psu for 30 dollars after MiR most weekends, this weekend it happens to be a 600w semi-modular unit from Ocz. I've owned four Ocz psu's so far, and I'm really happy with them. I've worked on a build using that case, and I like it. Has good cable routing options and fan locations for an outstanding price. The 7870ghz edition video card is a good value here, but if you can possibly spend up to 200 dollars on a card(out of your budget most likely) the 7950 can be had on sale. Lets not forget the 2 free games that comes with the 7870ghz edition card. Standard 1tb storage HDD.

Things to buy later are a cooler for the Cpu, and another 8gb's of Ram. By spending more on the video card now, you save money for performance later on.


How do I install my OS without a CD case? Well, I do have a USB stick, would I be able to install some older OS and then upgrade to my current one on that? Say Windows XP? Since anything else wouldnt be able to fit for installation.

Budget is running pretty tight enough as it is.
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August 31, 2013 4:22:43 PM

Can you borrow a CD player from a friend for a few hours?
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September 1, 2013 11:13:52 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Can you borrow a CD player from a friend for a few hours?


Seems like I luckily have a HDTV with a VGA port, with a PC audio port next to it.

Seems like that would save me a bundle. But wouldn't I need a HDMI to VGA to deal with that?

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September 1, 2013 12:16:11 PM

If you're going to get a mobo with internal usb 3, might as well get a case with usb 3.
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September 3, 2013 5:37:09 AM

Naa, probably a DVI to VGA cable, that would work, then use something else for the audio on my tv.
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September 3, 2013 6:22:16 AM

Anyways if at any point of time, if you feel that your question has been answered, then be sure to mark the thread as 'solved' by "Picking A Solution" . It would be appreciated by guys who are looking for similar answers.
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