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Whylucky

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Hey I was wondering If i could get some advice on a computer i was going to put together.

Any recommendations to better parts/Cheaper parts would be great or if the parts wont work well together also helpful

I will use it for some gaming, some Solidworks, and lots of media/websurfing/multitasking, any advice would be appreciated.

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0

MotherBoard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z87 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (I was going to get HERO but currently sold out)

Processor: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K

RAM:G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GSR

Graphics Card:ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Hard Drive:Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 ASP900S3-64GM-C 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Power Supply:CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC ...

DVD Burner:ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

This came about to be $1300, any suggestions?
 
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A) Asus has the best handle on the Z87 chipset B) Asus is known for quality boards and their OC abilities (especially the ROG series of mobos like the Hero C) MSI is hit or miss, the quality is not as good and the Quality control is very poor, I see more DOA and and failures within 30-60 days on their products than any two of the main mobo makers put together - in short, I simply won't touch MSI products for builds for my clients - just too big a chance of failure or poor performance
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Well the Solidworks makes the 4770k choice logical and the Sabertooth is a great workstation board so solid choices.....Thermal radar conclusively shows the value of armor w/ active cooling. The steel MoBo backplate keeps the board from warping and absorbs heat .... pleasure to build with.

Savings $50 for better case w/ PSU .... no it's not the 10.0 rated HX series but the 9.5 rated TX V2
Case - $180 - Corsair 500R White http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1390812
PSU - included - Corsair TX750 V2

But that $50 savings gives ya a nice upgrade to a MSI N770 760 (8% speed increase) and the case / PSU well suited for the future addition of a 2nd GFX card

Price Increase $45
GFX - $260 - MSI Gaming N760 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745
 
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From your first comment, I want the HERO but it was sold out so im going to try and wait till they come back in stock, but you think ASUS is stronger than MSI? would the 760 provide a big difference for the price increase of $20 (which to me isnt a ton)?
 
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A) Asus has the best handle on the Z87 chipset B) Asus is known for quality boards and their OC abilities (especially the ROG series of mobos like the Hero C) MSI is hit or miss, the quality is not as good and the Quality control is very poor, I see more DOA and and failures within 30-60 days on their products than any two of the main mobo makers put together - in short, I simply won't touch MSI products for builds for my clients - just too big a chance of failure or poor performance
 
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Tho I'm a long time user and fan of Asus products, bit Im not that impressed with recent QC and support..... Despite "premium customer status" which include shipping and pre shipping replacement before RMA goes back, my 1st RMA (WS Revolutuon) was delivered looking warped like a banana ... took 5 weeks to get 2nd RMA delivered, I had to pay shipping both ways (despite being told the contrary) and it arrived after XMas....was filed in in November.

Asus is getting out hustled here.....MIL class components require a Gryphon or Sabertooth and they a heckuva lot more expensive than the G45 or GD-65. They also have their factory overclocked GFX cards out at rather paltry OC's 91058 MHz), again losing ground to MSI's 1137 Mhz

As it says here.... Asus better wake up....their losing ground

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z87_gd65_gaming_review/15

Now and again a motherboard appears that is so obviously brilliant, and so affordable, that we wonder if anything will be able to top it. For a while that crown was held by the ASUS Sabertooth, both in X58 and then P67 variants. Then MSI stole the crown with the Z77 MPower. Looking at the Z87 GD65 Gaming we think it's going to take something extraordinary to top it, such is the perfect storm of price, performance, features and looks.

The switch to Military Class 4 has given us an extremely ready overclocker too. You're always thermally limited when overclocking and the i7-4770K is one of the most demanding around. Considering the amount of cooling we're using we think that although the GD65 is capable of bringing 5GHz from our i7-4770K you'd need a proper water loop to make the most of it.

Performance is outstanding. The stock results were a particular highlight. We know a lot of people still just like to put their CPU in and go, without overclocking it first. Despite how easy it is these days we know that the fear factor still exists. So you'll be glad to know that the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming really rocks hard even at stock settings. Naturally the overclocking is blistering too, with some OC3D records broken.

MSI have laid the gauntlet down to all the other manufacturers. Gorgeous to look at, blistering performance and all at a very affordable price, the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming is not only the new benchmark for Z87 motherboards, but probably for all motherboards.
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Im still using Asus > $200 and a split of Asus and MSI < $200 but the majority of reviews of late have been crashing on Asus and favoring MSI..... The Maximus VI Formula and Impact restored some luster, after the Maximus VI Extreme crashed and burned ..... I hope they can continue and finish strong as I love their BIOS and OC'ing utilities.
 
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