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Will Gainward NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card run on Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Motherboard with AMD FX 8350?

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August 27, 2013 1:35:12 AM

Hey people,

Since I'm a noob when it comes to building and assigning GPUs I need help selecting a perfect GPU for me which can run Battlefield 4 or GTA V like games on high-res and with AA. This GPU is pretty cool in terms of my budget and in terms of performance as well. I need help with DDR5 and DDR3 classified GPUs. Whether it's compatible with this motherboard and processor or not, help me understand the whole thing. :( 
August 27, 2013 5:27:51 AM

650 will not be enough to run BF4 on high res with AA, go for a GTX 760 or HD 7950. Any graphics card will work with your motherboard.
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August 27, 2013 7:49:08 AM

Varun Ramesh said:
650 will not be enough to run BF4 on high res with AA, go for a GTX 760 or HD 7950. Any graphics card will work with your motherboard.


does this mean DDR3 and DDR5 are just two terms and I don't need to worry?
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August 27, 2013 7:53:22 AM

Your thinking of GDDR3 and GDDR5, you don't have to worry about the two much. the 650 is a good card, but other cards like the 7790 are often cheaper and better (depending on where your buying from).

If its a new build, we could help you out with build reccommendations if you wanted, just give us your budget, if you want to overclock, want to SLI, need an OS license and if you need a monitor within that budget too :) 

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August 27, 2013 8:05:06 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
Your thinking of GDDR3 and GDDR5, you don't have to worry about the two much. the 650 is a good card, but other cards like the 7790 are often cheaper and better (depending on where your buying from).

If its a new build, we could help you out with build reccommendations if you wanted, just give us your budget, if you want to overclock, want to SLI, need an OS license and if you need a monitor within that budget too :) 



Alright, thanks buddy.
I know nothing about assembling PCs but here's the build:

Processor- AMD FX 8350
Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Motherboard
RAM- G.Skill NT DDR3 4 GB (1x4 GB) PC RAM
PSU- Corsair VS450 s50 Watts PSU
Graphics Card- Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6670 1 GB DDR3 Graphics Card
Multi-GPU (CrossFire X)- Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon HD 5450 1 GB DDR3 Graphics Card.


My budget is 35k
Since I'm buying from a local shop, I don't need to worry about the price. I saw the price list on http://www.flipkart.com/ it's too high. :( 
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August 27, 2013 8:38:24 AM

GDDR5 is quite a bit better for performance than GDDR3.

I would suggest an FX 6350, 4GB of RAM (get 2x2gb sticks for best performance)
Also, crossfiring two crappy cards isn't going to help. See if you can get a 7850 or an 6870 in your budget.
Finally, you'll need at least 500W to power the FX cpu.
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August 27, 2013 8:38:53 AM

That list doesn't include all the parts you need, but as i can see from that website, in your country, the i5-3330 is cheaper than the 8350! Stick that with a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard and try to buy 2 modules of ram eg 2x2gb or 2x4gb.

here is a list of what parts you need:
Processor
Motherboard
RAM
Storage (eg Hard drive)
graphics card
Case
Power supply
and an OS license if you need it.

for the graphics card get a 7770 if its cheaper than the 650, otherwise the 650 is fine.

Im sorry, i tried navigating that website, but its very frustrating to use :S so i haven't created a parts list.
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August 27, 2013 9:01:03 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
That list doesn't include all the parts you need, but as i can see from that website, in your country, the i5-3330 is cheaper than the 8350! Stick that with a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard and try to buy 2 modules of ram eg 2x2gb or 2x4gb.

here is a list of what parts you need:
Processor
Motherboard
RAM
Storage (eg Hard drive)
graphics card
Case
Power supply
and an OS license if you need it.

for the graphics card get a 7770 if its cheaper than the 650, otherwise the 650 is fine.

Im sorry, i tried navigating that website, but its very frustrating to use :S so i haven't created a parts list.


I think a sacrifice in the cpu department is needed here in order for op to get a gpu that will fun BF4. Get an i3-3220 and a 7850.
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August 27, 2013 11:06:56 PM

ps3hacker12 said:
That list doesn't include all the parts you need, but as i can see from that website, in your country, the i5-3330 is cheaper than the 8350! Stick that with a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard and try to buy 2 modules of ram eg 2x2gb or 2x4gb.

here is a list of what parts you need:
Processor
Motherboard
RAM
Storage (eg Hard drive)
graphics card
Case
Power supply
and an OS license if you need it.

for the graphics card get a 7770 if its cheaper than the 650, otherwise the 650 is fine.

Im sorry, i tried navigating that website, but its very frustrating to use :S so i haven't created a parts list.


I know it's a crap web-store, can't help. No alternative.
I've made a new rig.
See this- http://assembleyourpc.net/rigs/2892 :) 
Maybe I should go for the one that saves more power than it consumes.
This budget is killing me.
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August 27, 2013 11:10:41 PM

angaddev said:
ps3hacker12 said:
That list doesn't include all the parts you need, but as i can see from that website, in your country, the i5-3330 is cheaper than the 8350! Stick that with a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Motherboard and try to buy 2 modules of ram eg 2x2gb or 2x4gb.

here is a list of what parts you need:
Processor
Motherboard
RAM
Storage (eg Hard drive)
graphics card
Case
Power supply
and an OS license if you need it.

for the graphics card get a 7770 if its cheaper than the 650, otherwise the 650 is fine.

Im sorry, i tried navigating that website, but its very frustrating to use :S so i haven't created a parts list.


I think a sacrifice in the cpu department is needed here in order for op to get a gpu that will fun BF4. Get an i3-3220 and a 7850.


Should I go for i5-3330? That i3-3220 has 2 cores. :( 
But my FX 8350 has the same price as this i5-3330 but the FX has 8 cores of it's own.
What should I do?
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August 28, 2013 4:53:44 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
The i5-3330 is a great option, if you do go for that you don't need a seperate aftermarket cooler.

also i would switch out the PSU you listed for this one:
http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs550-550-watt-psu/p/it...

This hard drive:
http://www.flipkart.com/wd-blue-wd10ezex-1-tb-internal-...

how much cheaper is the i3-3220?


i3-3220 is Rs.7499 and is much cheaper than the i5. I5 is better than this i3 in many sectors though. 4 cores and saves a lot of energy. But the speed is a bit low than that of i3-3220.

I3 has 3.3 Ghz with no turbo boost but i5-3330 has 3 Ghz with a turbo of 3.2 Ghz and that's the only con according to me.

This Intel i5-3330 has the same price as the AMD FX 8350.
I can compare them both but I think 8 cores and a 4.0 Ghz is a much better choice than 3.0 Ghz and 4 Cores.

http://www.flipkart.com/amd-fx-8350/p/itmdfv4fffknf29s?...

After reading the review on AMD FX 8350, I decided to go for an Intel processor, the guy opened my eyes:-

"I know this place is crawling with AMD fan boys... so I'm writing to this for opening the eyes of those who are undecided what to buy.
To the people who go for specs alone... here are some things to consider
1. Can a webcam of 20 Megapixels replace a DSLR of 12 megapixels?
2. Do you think two cameras of 8 Megapixels produce the same clarity images?
3. A graphic card has around 600+ cores... but can it do the work that the CPU does? and Vice versa?
4. Do you think a high-end android phone like galaxy s3 (with 4 cores) has the power to even open up photoshop? If you say yes... why are there no ARM PCs?.... it uses much less power.

The way of measuring performance is not specs like cores, cache etc.... it is only benchmarks.
I'm not saying cores, cache etc. don't count -- these things cannot be used to compare two different brands.... think of it like you go buy two shirts.. both have XL written on it -- but one fits and other doesnt. Why? Because XL means different for different brands! That is why you cannot compare two brands even if they are from the same company eg: Nahlem vs Sandy Bridge vs Ivy Bridge just purely on specs.... If that were the case then, Nahlem = Sandy Bridge = Ivy Bridge... but you know thats not true. And people would be using FX 8150 in high-end server machines because they have better specs than Xeon processors. The only way to compare a processor is via "benchmarking"

What is a benchmark? It is a way of running the same task on two different systems and seeing who completes faster and scoring it on a number system.

Now coming back to the topic...
If you look at benchmarks (source:anadtech.com) you can see what I'm talking about -- FX 8150 is ridiculously slow compared with the i7 2600 .. and most of the time gets beaten by i5 2500.
The specs don't matter -- its the performance that it shows when doing basic tasks like photoshop, playing a game, compiling a program.
So why does intel have such a lead with lesser cores?
Its because of the R&D that they did. I work in a processor company that specializes in cryptography... there are many things that intel doesn't share with the world -- but they have a lot of proprietary technology inside the Sandy/Ivy Bridge that makes is really fast in doing the simplest of tasks.
Thats why AMD lost out.

A processor is not as simple as a car -- where you can say this much bhp, this much weight, this much mileage -- and you can get an idea about the performance of a car... a processor is a very complex combination of transistors that no single person can explain and they keep improving everything every year -- not just clock speed, cores and cache. It is much more complex than that.

If you just want to brag about 8 cores-- yeah, go for the FX 8150 -- but if you want pure performance -- Sandy Bridge is the way to go (and you can brag about the cores of your GPU instead). Don't trust me, check out the benchmarks.

Another point is power consumption -- its known that overclocking a processor will increase its power usage -- which is true for an AMD .. but intel has done something incredible -- if you look at the power usage that i7 2600 shows after overclocking, you'll see that it just consumes slightly more -- which is nothing compared to what this processor does when overclocked !!! It just draws power like an AC

So keeping all this in mind, you make your choice... remember folks -- its not about the specs -- there is a lot proprietary technology inside these products that are not published to the outside world... so only way to judge a processor is by benchmarking it.
There was a time when AMD got it right -- like during the time they released the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2... it swept the floor with the pentium 4s that time... But for the last couple of years, it was just intel which was holding the cup for best performance.

Having said all that, this is a very cheap processor.. and if this is what you can afford -- you should definitely get it.. But don't expect some ridiculous performance because it says 8 cores. "

I3-3220:::::::

64-bit Architechture
2 Cores
Desktop Processor
3.3 GHz Clock Speed
FCLGA1155 Socket Type
55 W Maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP)
22 nm Manufacturing Process

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August 28, 2013 5:19:25 AM

or rather a CHEAP processor with GOOD performance and a MORE POWER SAVING even when overclocking. Can you suggest me one?
I know you're a gaming expert but still you can help me out. :) 
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August 28, 2013 6:31:39 AM

the thing is the i5-3330 and the i3-3220 are fantastic processors especially when it comes to performance per core, but they cannot be overclocked.

In the ultra low cost the athlon 750K wins, but i don't reccommend that for your budget.
For your budget (low but not ultra low) the i5 is really the best option, low power consumption fantastic ivy bridge performance per core, low heat generation and therefore less noise too.

the i5-3330 goes to 3.2Ghz when needed.

the i5 vs the fx8350 in gaming:

the orange is the i5 and the blue is the fx8350

i3 vs the fx8350:


i3 is orange and the fx8350 is blue, BUT the i3 does pull ahead in some other games.
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