2 Builds. Need help verifying these part lists.

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Hello!

I have two lists of two builds below, that I need to put together before the end of the week!

You will notice that not everything is there like the more expensive build doesn't have a monitor, storage hard drive, ... - that is because what ever is not listed will be carried on from previous builds. So if it is not there, then it should be.

Both builds will be used for Architecture school, so heavy 3d and rendering programs: 3Ds Max, Maya, Revit, Rhino, AutoCAD, Photoshop, Illustrator.

Both builds will run 2 SSDs in Raid 0.

This is for me and my friend. That's why the budgets are different. He decided to go with a least expensive processor, so his build comes out to be cheaper + he doesn't want a video card.

List of topics I need help with:
1. Please check if both builds are going to work the way they are. I just want someone verification
2. I am least sure about RAM (for both builds). I made my best choice based on what I know about RAM + looks and chose ones that are there. I'd like to hear if there is other option for RAM that will significantly effect performance vs price.
3. I also chose a video card for a more expensive build, but I'd like to hear other opinions. As you are guessing this is for editing purposes, but I am also a gamer. I want to have 1 video card that will help me with renderings + keep up with games. Yet main goal is renderings, not games.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yero/saved/2gl1
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yero/saved/2gln

Thanks!
 
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Some questions:
Why 4 modules over 2?
Why such expensive motherboards?
everything else is great.

Do you specifically need 4 modules for the second build? :
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($178.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO...

ps3hacker12

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Some questions:
Why 4 modules over 2?
Why such expensive motherboards?
everything else is great.

Do you specifically need 4 modules for the second build? :
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($178.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($178.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($83.88 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer V233HLBJObd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.29 @ Amazon)
Other: Rosewill RTK-001 Premium Anti-Static Wrist Strap ($6.00)
Total: $1595.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 11:06 EDT-0400)

for the first one you could switch up to a 4GB 770 with room for 770SLI in the future too:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.20 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($264.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($178.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($178.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($434.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 119.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($83.88 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K310 Wired Standard Keyboard ($29.75 @ Newegg)
Other: LED Kit (CB-LED10-WT, White, 1 m, Sleeved) ($13.99)
Other: Card Reader - SYBA CL-CRD20128 (All-in-one, USB 3.0) (SDHC, CF, MS, Micro SD, T-Flash, M2) ($20.00)
Other: Ram Cooler - G.SKILL FTB-3500C5-D ($15.00)
Other: Anti-Static Wrist Strap - Kingwin ATS-W24 ($2.98)
Other: LCD Temperature Sensor - XSPC White ($9.99)
Other: Fan Controller (Touch Screen) ($43.49)
Other: Expansion Bay Storage Drawer ($9.99)
Other: Duo HD Rack - Thermaltake ST0026Z Max 5
Other: SSD/SATA HD Rack - MASSCOOL MR-3100 2.5” & 3.5” ($30.00)
Other: Flash Drive - Lexar JumpDrive S73 LJDS73-8GBASBNA (8GB, USB 3.0) ($11.00)
Other: Flash Drive - CORSAIR Voyager Mini CMFMINI3-32GB (32GB, USB 3.0) ($30.00)
Other: Hard Drive Mounting Kit - VANTEC HDA-252P Dual 2.5" to 3.5" ($7.00)
Total: $2463.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 11:20 EDT-0400)

CUDA performance, 770 vs 660Ti:
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more here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-760-review-gk104,3542-19.html
 
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Why do you need such an expensive mobo? a z87-gd65 will work fine on the first build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.20 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($212.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Cougar Vortex PWM 119.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($186.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($83.88 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Logitech K310 Wired Standard Keyboard ($29.75 @ Newegg)
Other: LED Kit (CB-LED10-WT, White, 1 m, Sleeved) ($13.99)
Other: Card Reader - SYBA CL-CRD20128 (All-in-one, USB 3.0) (SDHC, CF, MS, Micro SD, T-Flash, M2) ($20.00)
Other: Ram Cooler - G.SKILL FTB-3500C5-D ($15.00)
Other: Anti-Static Wrist Strap - Kingwin ATS-W24 ($2.98)
Other: LCD Temperature Sensor - XSPC White ($9.99)
Other: Fan Controller (Touch Screen) ($43.49)
Other: Expansion Bay Storage Drawer ($9.99)
Other: Duo HD Rack - Thermaltake ST0026Z Max 5
Other: SSD/SATA HD Rack - MASSCOOL MR-3100 2.5” & 3.5” ($30.00)
Other: Flash Drive - Lexar JumpDrive S73 LJDS73-8GBASBNA (8GB, USB 3.0) ($11.00)
Other: Flash Drive - CORSAIR Voyager Mini CMFMINI3-32GB (32GB, USB 3.0) ($30.00)
Other: Hard Drive Mounting Kit - VANTEC HDA-252P Dual 2.5" to 3.5" ($7.00)
Total: $2388.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 11:51 EDT-0400)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 410 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($83.88 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer V233HLBJObd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.29 @ Amazon)
Other: Rosewill RTK-001 Premium Anti-Static Wrist Strap ($6.00)
Total: $1626.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 11:53 EDT-0400)
 

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Awsome.

I am keeping sabertooth on my build because I found it brand new for almost half price.

A couple of other questions.

Would it be worth it to get only one ssd instead of two running in Raid 0, and get a video card with cuda cores or just a video card in general for what ever reason it is? I am trying to keep a price lower for the second less expensive build and improve its 3d rendering speed. Does raid 0 does anything for rendering of this type anyways? Or just video rendering. What else does it effect?

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From another forum:
Theres not much benefit in 3d with raid 0, 3d apps arent limited by harddrive speed.

That's a pretty generic statement, which goes back to what you already said. It depends on what the purpose of the system is. For simulations, large polygon counts, and heavy rendering the disk I/O is definitely a limiting factor. For architecture its probably not a limiting factor, and redundancy is the best use of extra disk space if the increased I/O is not necessary. For redundancy RAID isn't always the best option as there are many software packages that are set-it-and-forget-it for backup that provide protection that RAID doesn't.

Accidental file deletion or viruses can't be recovered from with RAID, but they can with backup software and JBOD. RAID 1 is really only useful on the OS drives for being able to recover quickly in an environment where up time is crucial. Cheers!



previous experience of another TH member:
Keep in mind also that 2 high end HDDs can feed an OC'd i7 enough compressed data (h/x.264) to keep it at full load if you are doing heavy loads. In short, you do not 'need' SSD performance to have an excellent editing experience. That being said, I have done one project on my SSDs, and OMG!!! the instant seek time of the SSDs really make things snappy when randomly picking a spot to start playing from!!! But other than that extra quick responsiveness I did not see much other improvement in actual use for editing and rendering speeds because compressed data is rather CPU heavy. If you start editing raw, uncompressed (or low compressed) footage (like lagarith), then you will see a huge performance boost because there is less load on the CPU, and more load on the drives, so for that workflow SSDs would make more sense... but you would need some nice big drives.

Another thing of note, especially when doing RAID with SSDs; SSDs are internally extremely parallel. Anything smaller than a 240/256GB SSD (and with next gen drives anything smaller than a 480/512GB drive) means that they have not populated all available memory slots on the board. In other words, purchasing 2 128GB SSDs is very similar in performance to a single 256GB SSD, because SSDs use an internal RAIDing scheme inside the drive, which you are just duplicating. The RAID would be a little bit faster on some uses (uncompressable), and a little slower on others (compressable), but all in all you would be better off getting a single larger SSD.
RAID has other draw backs as well: For example, lets say that your motherboard dies a terrible death... well, unless you get a new mobo with the same RAID controller, then all of your data is simply gone. Thankfully Intel RAID does not seem to be changing any time soon (I just moved from a z68 to a z77 mobo with no issues), but if something dies in 2-3 years, do you really want to go find an old mobo just to get your stuff back? or would you rather get modern stuff, and not worry about your data being stuck or lost?
Another issue with RAID on SSDs in particular is the issue of TRIM support. RAID does not allow TRIM commands to pass though on all controllers. Thus my move from z68 to z77, for that one single feature to have RAID0 with TRIM support... and it does make a notable difference over time, especially for write speeds. But even the z77 chipset only lets TRIM though on RAID0, so RAID1 or 5 are out of the question for the array with the SSDs on it.
The last major issue has to do with SSDs themselves. Even cheap SSDs will last FOREVER on the memory allocation. I did the math a long time ago, and figured out that my 240GB drive would last me ~8 years with my using it as a system drive before I used up all the memory endurance... and moving to 480GB in RAID0 made the number quite astronomical. But memory write endurance is not what dies on most SSDs; it is the controller. And having 2 drives in RAID0 (because 1 and 5 are out of the question as mentioned above) basically means that you have 2 ticking time bombs instead of one, and any single drive failure means the loss of all data.

So I am not saying to not do 2 SSDs; I mean, I enjoy mine, and my peak throughput of 1GB/s, but go into it knowing what you are getting yourself into, and be sure to back up all important data on some good old fashioned reliable drives that are in a redundant array. Personally I have my SSDs with all of my programs, active projects, and commonly used documents (music and docs). The documents are backed up via skydrive, the music is backed up via a file copy to the RAID1 array whenever I get more music, and the project files are imported to the RAID1 array first, and then copied to the SSD RAID0 to work on. The SSDs may well fail on me (especially mine as they are cheap drives), but they are not trusted with anything important where a failure would mess me up too badly (though I would be really really annoyed).

All of that said: Go with Sammy. They have better quality flash, better quality controllers, better customer service if anything does go wrong, and in this particular case it sounds like they are cheaper to begin with. But I would get larger drives. Synthetic benchmarks may be higher in RAID0, but in real life you will not get that speed unless you are starting out with fully populated drives to begin with, and 128GB drives in RAID are not going to be as fast in daily use as a single 256GB drive.

Hope all that helps!
 

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Thank you.

Yes, all that was very helpful. Ill probably keep double ssd on a more expensive build and only put 1 ssd on the cheaper one.

A part of a question wasnt answered still. Would a video card with cuda cores or just by itself?
 

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It is highly dependant on what software you use and if it takes advantage of CUDA.

generally from what i understand:
If you are highly openCL dependant, then an AMD card no doubt would be most useful.
AutoCAD 2D/3D, Nvidia cards (not so much cuda core dependant).
3DS max, CUDA cores all the way.
Maya, Nvidia cards, not so much CUDA cores again.

[EDIT] :
there was a recent titan workload review, reading through this may help:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474.html
 

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I just ordered a first build. I want to order a second one, but still have a question because from what I know it doesn't seem to work.

1. Will this RAM work with this motherboard? If not, what do you suggest as far as 4x4GB, but cheaper.
I am asking because it's speed and speeds that mother board can run, don't match.

2. Will I be able to overclock RAM with this motherboard to higher speeds?

3. If not, then what do you suggest as far as the same price, or hopefully cheaper, but still fast.



ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 994015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226281&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=


Thanks!
 

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Well theres this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231456&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

im not entirely sure if that mobo will support ram over 1866Mhz including OCing. From a little research, unlike other X79 boards it doesn't support 2133+Mhz ram strangely.
 

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I am sorry I got confused with my pcpartpicker links, links here on forum, and bookmarks...
That is not motherboard that will be on my build. The one I ordered discounted ($200) via ebay is:
ASRock X79 Extreme9 LGA 2011 Intel X79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157285

I was searching around for RAM, and I found these two. RAM is still my weakest point, but from I understand these should both be fast, and I could overclock them as well + I like how they look.

Also, I am also getting 1 kit of 4x4gb for now, but plan to add another one to make it 32gb total.

Which on of these RAMs below will fit my system best considering everything above and that this is the current (updated) parts list.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233228
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233253


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.20 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($176.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($176.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($197.64 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.90 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech K310 Wired Standard Keyboard ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Other: Card Reader - SYBA CL-CRD20128 (All-in-one, USB 3.0) (SDHC, CF, MS, Micro SD, T-Flash, M2) ($20.00)
Other: Anti-Static Wrist Strap - Kingwin ATS-W24 ($2.98)
Other: LCD Temperature Sensor - XSPC White ($9.99)
Other: Fan Controller (Touch Screen) ($43.49)
Other: Expansion Bay Storage Drawer ($9.99)
Other: SSD/SATA HD Rack - MASSCOOL MR-3100 2.5” & 3.5” ($30.00)
Other: Flash Drive - Lexar JumpDrive S73 LJDS73-8GBASBNA (8GB, USB 3.0) ($11.00)
Other: Flash Drive - CORSAIR Voyager Mini CMFMINI3-32GB (32GB, USB 3.0) ($30.00)
Other: Hard Drive Mounting Kit - VANTEC HDA-252P Dual 2.5" to 3.5" ($7.00)
Other: USB Extension Cable - StarTech USB3SEXT5DSK (5 ft, USB 3.0) ($12.00)
Other: LED Kit (NZXT CB-LED10-WT, White, 1 m, Sleeved) ($13.99)
Total: $2860.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-02 22:50 EDT-0400)

Thanks!
 

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Np, be sure to post any problems (hopefully none!) in a new thread if you need help :)

edit, also the i7-4960X was reviewed just a few hours ago: (with an official sample rather than the engineering sample before)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4960x-ivy-bridge-e-benchmark,3557.html

Probably not the best time to tell you xD

Tiny improvements, mostly just power usage improvements really :) probably still 2 months before it hits retail and another month before some good mobos come out.
 

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It is alright, I wouldn't spend $990.

Plan was to use this for at least a year or more, and then maybe buy a new processor and motherboard and sell whatever I just bought. We'll see how it goes, but really need something to have during this semester. So I am happy.
 

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I have a couple of questions in regards to how to connect the motherboard correctly.

ASRock X79 Extreme9 LGA 2011 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157285&Tpk=asrock%20x79%20extreme9

CORSAIR HX750 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

I'll refer to this layout with #s:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3407/ae8b.png

Question 1:
Manual says connections #6 and #7 are
"ATX 12V Power Connector (ATX12V2)" and
"ATX 12V Power Connector (ATX12V1)"

Power supply is semi-modular and the attached wires are a motherboard long connection and a small one that I guess has to go to one of those #6 or #7.

My question is, for the second connection on the motherboard (#6 or #7) should I use the blue or black connection on the power supply. If you take a look at power supply on newegg, there is going to be black and blue groups of modular connections.

Question 2:
There is a #50 which in manual is called:
"SLI / XFIRE Power Connector"
I have a RAM cooler with a connection like that for it's fans. I am just wondering if I could plug it in there, since I am not going to have 2 video cards?

Thanks!
 

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Thing is. I've tried connecting it with everything and when it is connected, computer wouldn't start. It says CPU2 on it, I took the other build's cable that says CPU2 and that makes in not turn of too.
 

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