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August 27, 2013 12:33:18 PM

So I have roughly narrowed it down to two builds, I have the components listed below. Basically the main game I would like to play is ARMA 3 at ultra at ~60fps I would also like this build to be capable for the next 5 years. I'm looking to overclock also I was thinking about SLI'ing the 770 but if I went with the 780 I would stay single card. My goal was to stay around $2k but as you can see I went a bit over, would like to know which build you guys prefer, also if you see anything that could be done better please let me know. thank you

Intel:
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($226.13 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($415.91 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($252.00 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Headphones: Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2253.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 15:31 EDT-0400)

AMD:

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($685.91 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($107.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($252.00 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Headphones: Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2432.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 15:32 EDT-0400)

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August 27, 2013 12:42:32 PM

with such a high end build, any FX based reccommendation goes out of the window, the i5-4670K rig is by far the one to go for.

the 8350 would bottleneck a single 780 and SLI 780's? Pfft forget about it.

You could easily fit a 780 in your i5 build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($24.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($250.52 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Headphones: Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset ($107.89 @ Amazon)
Total: $2306.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 15:39 EDT-0400)

You really don't need thermal paste, the thermal paste that comes applied with the H100i is great.
Why such an expensive mobo?
switched out the ram for better OCing ram.
switched out PSU for one that would support dual 780s in the future
barracuda drives are great too, just at a lower cost :) 
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August 27, 2013 1:10:15 PM

< $850 Id recommend AMD
> $850 id do Intel

-The 100i @ 38 dBA is 64 times louder than comparably performing air coolers (19 dBA). If ya want to use water, use something in the 20dBA range. H100 wins by a half degree here but the author writes ....

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_h100_hydro...
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However, this performance comes at a cost; noise. At 2600RPM, the H100 isn’t a quiet unit at all and similarly at 2000RPM, it can still be quite intrusive. In terms of performance per noise, high end air coolers from Phanteks, Noctua and Thermalright still reign supreme, contrary to Corsair’s own marketing. Like other ALC units, the H100 relies too much on high RPM fans for its performance when the goal of water cooling is generally for extreme performance at low noise levels.


Listen for yaself (@ 4:15 hits 60bBA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTf0Vq1j4Ec

20 dBA Alternatives with comparable cooling:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Artic Silver takes 200 hours of thermal cycling to cure (says so on their home page) ... so if ya turn machine on and start gaming, it warms up for 5 minutes, cools down for 5 minutes in in 3-4 hours you completed 10 minutes of "thermal cycling". Shin Etsu has same thermal properties and no curing issues.

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...
http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...

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Here is the Arctic Silver 5 recommended cure time instruction from the manufacturers web site:

Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.

So by my estimation of this statement it would take almost a year of normal use to properly cure the AC5 compound, or almost nine days of continuous power cycles to meet their recommendation. Benchmark Reviews feels that this is a characteristically unreasonable requirement for any TIM product, and we do not support it. We want products that perform without the burden of sacrifice on our time, especially with some many competing products offering performance without this extra requirement.

Shin Etsu or use the stuff in the box w/ Phanteks if ya go that way
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hero is a great board.....though I'm partial to the Maximus VI Formula .... if budget gets tight look at the MSI GD-65 or G45

Great price on the G45 combo w/ 4670k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Your case / PSU combo is $270....yikes .... and
1) HX series has better voltage regulation and lower ripple than AX series
2) 760 too low for adding a 2nd 770

Better Case / PSU Combo Corsair 500R w/ HX850
$270 - $30 rebates - $20 off w/ promo code EMCXMVN49, ends 9/2 = $220 ($saved $60 for better stuff)

Fractal R4 = 8.65 rating http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...
Corsair 500R = 9.25 rating http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=co...

On the GFX, the MSI has both the lowest price and highest factory OC at 1137 MHz....normally Id go w/ Asus but this time I am taking the MSI N770 for the performance. Id have no issue with ya sticking with Asus if only so that when / if ya gotta call Tech Support, they cant blame the other hardware :) 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage, KB, Mouse, Headset are fine
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August 27, 2013 1:11:51 PM

Either build would work just fine and no the FX CPU WOULD NOT bottleneck the GPU in any way shape or form. But for that kind of money I would go for the i5 also as far as that goes. I have two FX builds a FX-8120 and a FX-8350 with a Crossfire HD 7950 and HD 7970 and have not had a bottleneck problem with either one. They are very good gaming CPU's.
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