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First PC Build NEED HELP €600 / £560 / $870

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August 27, 2013 4:03:51 PM

I am considering building my first PC soon for gaming in 1920x1080 at high settings, and also some programming. After a good few months of research, here are the specs I have come up with so far:

  • CPU: AMD FX-6300 (cooled by Cooler Master 212 EVO Cooler for overclocking)
  • MOBO: Asrock 970 Extreme3 R2.2
  • GPU: MSI GTX 660 Twin Frozr, Overclocked
  • RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz CL9
  • HDD: Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm SATA 6GB/s
  • PSU: Cooler Master B600
  • CASE: Sharkoon VS3
  • DVD: LiteOn DVD-RW
  • OS: Windows 7 HP 64-Bit

  • also the peripherals:

    • MONITOR: AOC e2250Swdak 21.5" 1080p /w integrated speakers
    • KEYBOARD: Microsoft Sidewinder x4

  • I signed up for Tomshardware so I could post this and ask what you guys think, basically to find out if this all would work and hear some feedback from people with experience

    In particular I would like to know two things:

    1. Is the power supply is any good?, I'm pretty sure that Cooler Master have a good reputation for manufacturing various parts, but I couldn't help notice that this particular model has no '80 PLUS' rating, should that be something to consider? Also, do i actually need 600W, will a 500W be enough for overclocking the FX-6300? or should I go with the 600W to be safe
    2. Will my airflow be good enough?, this is the main thing I'm having trouble with. The case comes with one fan already, and has a 120mm fan mount on the side, and a 80/92mm fan mount at the back, a total maximum of 3 fans, will one fan be enough or should i get another 1 or 2, keep in mind that I intend to overclock the FX-6300 (hopefully to around 4.5Ghz)


  • With regards to buying the parts, I live in the Republic Of Ireland and have read that hardwareversand.de is the best place to order from, but if any of you guys from Ireland have experience in buying off them, is it true that shipping will only cost €18.99, regardless of weight? that would be great, but I'd also like to know if I would be bombarded with any other charges like import tax ect.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this post (It was lengthy I know, sorry) and
    I would really appreciate any help that you guys could offer.

    PS: The price shown in the title does not include the keyboard and monitor
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    August 27, 2013 4:07:01 PM

    If you intend on overclocking you may want to look at the corsair hydro series
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    August 27, 2013 4:13:52 PM

    Callam Kitcher said:
    If you intend on overclocking you may want to look at the corsair hydro series


    Generally speaking closed loop watercoolers are just for show. Good air coolers cost less, cool better, and make less noise.


    the PSU is junk. get a unit from COrsair, ANtec, XFX, Seasonic.

    Get a 92mm fan for rear exhaust and your system will be perfectly cool with those 2 fans.

    Your case is junk. Look at Antec, Corsair, fractal Design, Bitfenix, NZXT, Coolermaster for quality cases.
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    August 27, 2013 4:18:33 PM

    CM storm scout 1 or 2 is a very nice case.
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    August 27, 2013 4:21:54 PM

    Callam Kitcher said:
    If you intend on overclocking you may want to look at the corsair hydro series

    I appreciate the advice, but I really don't want to be spending on something like that, I'm only 16 and have no real current income. Also, I have heard of the Hyper 212 Evo Keeping respectable CPU's stable at ~4.5GHz, I even saw a video with 4-way Titans and an i7-3960X, and a 212 Evo was used for that. So i really don' think the CPU Cooler would be an issue
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    August 27, 2013 4:29:49 PM

    The CM hyper 212 evo is a GREAT cooler for the money. Go with it for sure.
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    August 27, 2013 4:33:20 PM

    Just read some reviews of that cooler and its got alot of mixed reviews with alot saying that it was only a small step up from a stock fan.
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    August 27, 2013 4:37:58 PM

    Callam Kitcher said:
    Just read some reviews of that cooler and its got alot of mixed reviews with alot saying that it was only a small step up from a stock fan.


    You are incorrect. It is the NUMBER ONE cooler of choice for this price bracket. It cools better than coolers twice and three times as expensive. It is the best cooler option for sure. Watercoolers are not good unless you spend $100+ and at that point you shouldn't be going for a cheesy closed loop system, you should be building a custom loop. Those coolers are a fad and are more for showing off than actually working well. Air coolers will always be king of price/performance.
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    August 27, 2013 4:38:22 PM

    Callam Kitcher said:
    Just read some reviews of that cooler and its got alot of mixed reviews with alot saying that it was only a small step up from a stock fan.

    Hmm, that's strange, I've been led to believe that that EVO-212 was a pretty good cooler, Many users seem to be able to keep an i5-3570k stable at around 4.4 - 4.5GHz, I guess that's all that really matters, Is It?

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    August 27, 2013 4:39:22 PM

    mockle_poppler said:
    Callam Kitcher said:
    Just read some reviews of that cooler and its got alot of mixed reviews with alot saying that it was only a small step up from a stock fan.

    Hmm, that's strange, I've been led to believe that that EVO-212 was a pretty good cooler, Many users seem to be able to keep an i5-3570k stable at around 4.4 - 4.5GHz, I guess that's all that really matters, Is It?



    The hyper 212 EVO is proven time and time again to be the best for what it is. Don't listen to this guy.
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    August 27, 2013 4:45:32 PM

    What about the choice of PSU, and do I need another case fan, or maybe two?
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    August 27, 2013 4:59:16 PM

    Just get a rear exhaust fan. That and the front intake will be plenty.

    Coolermaster makes TERRIBLE PSUs. Stick with antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic.
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    August 27, 2013 5:22:42 PM

    tiny voices said:
    Just get a rear exhaust fan. That and the front intake will be plenty.

    Coolermaster makes TERRIBLE PSUs. Stick with antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic.

    what about a Seasonic 520 Watt? (this one)

    my only concern is that it is only 520 Watt, do you think that would be enough to oveclock the FX-6300 to about 4.5GHz? and as far as future upgrades go, I probably wont use any sort of SLI / CrossFire for a good few years at least
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    August 27, 2013 5:29:28 PM

    Yes it will be perfectly fine for overclocking the CPU. That is a very high quality unit. If you are concerned, look at the 650w unit from XFX. It is made by seasonic and re-branded. It is overkill for your needs but if it makes you more comfortable then its all good. That Seasonic is what I would go with though.
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    August 28, 2013 1:22:31 PM

    Has anyone heard of Aerocool, and do they make good cases I was looking at the Aerocool V3X Advance (here) and was wondering if they were a reputable manufacturer

    If not, what do you think of the Cooler Master K280 (here)
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    August 28, 2013 7:12:07 PM

    They are not very good at all. That case has a top mounted PSU and no cable management at all. That coolermaster case is much better.
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