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August 27, 2013 5:17:06 PM

I am looking to upgrade my PC but I have never been good at understanding hardware properly. All I know is basically higher numbers on it means good. So naturally I have no idea where to start and could use a lot of help.

It would be extremely preferable if I did not need to change my entire rig but if it comes to it, so be it (with tears falling from my bank)

Let me start off show you what my PC is and all the things I have. I did not build this computer myself but I bought it off Cyberpower as a premade one with some minor adjustments to the size of the Ram and etc.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1x0qf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1x0qf/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1x0qf/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2000 Memory ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital WD SE 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Linksys AE1200 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($82.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset ($108.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1176.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 20:02 EDT-0400)

Also: I have something called Asetek 510LC liquid cooling but it wasn't on the list.

This is what I am looking to do:

1. Get another monitor (can this be achieved with my current rig and how?)
2. Looking to play next gen games in medium-high settings
3. Do some video editing with Sony and Adobe softwares.

Optional

1. Get a better sound card
2. Increase RAM
3. Get a SSD (don't know how to migrate only windows to it though)

This is what I think I need to do:
1. Upgrade my CPU
2. Upgrade my GPU
3. Upgrade my Power supply

With all of the cooling, the heat my PC generates is still pretty high (I think) When playing games, such as AC3 or Dishonor, peak temp can get to 80F. I don't know if this is normal or not but it keeps me warm in the winter.

I know from all of this it may sound like I know a thing or two but in reality, i don't know the different between them. All I think is "Oh this one is 0.1 GHz faster, must mean its better" and it has lead me to over spend for products that are not that good in the past.

All the help I get is deeply appreciated and may all my advisers win the lottery!!!

Thank you in advanced.



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August 27, 2013 5:23:59 PM

Well, you are going to either just upgrade, or with your budget start over. You have the money and parts to buy a new motherboard/cpu and video card with a new power supply to run it all,, and use parts from your current rig. Or, we could just tell you to buy a couple of parts and save the money. Which do you prefer?
August 27, 2013 6:57:47 PM

Swordkd said:
Well, you are going to either just upgrade, or with your budget start over. You have the money and parts to buy a new motherboard/cpu and video card with a new power supply to run it all,, and use parts from your current rig. Or, we could just tell you to buy a couple of parts and save the money. Which do you prefer?


Preferably, it would be to just buying parts to make it able to run future games. but I am also open to building one from the ground up as well. It all comes down to rather or not it will be just easier to sell my old rig and start over.
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August 27, 2013 8:07:38 PM
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You don't want to sell your old rig. Maybe sell a couple of parts off of it though. You can either do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $429.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 23:02 EDT-0400)

Save some money on the Cpu, and take advantage of the cooler to overclock it and regain the speed that you lose. Great price on the video card, and it comes with 3 free games. Solid Psu at a great price.

This would give you better performance, but costs more:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-K ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $629.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 23:04 EDT-0400)

Latest Intel I5 Cpu, and a solid motherboard. Same parts as the above build, because there isn't any reason to change them.

If you go the Intel route, you'll have to wipe your HDD and reinstall the OS, if you just change out the Cpu and video card you won't have to.
August 28, 2013 6:04:11 AM

Swordkd said:
You don't want to sell your old rig. Maybe sell a couple of parts off of it though. You can either do this:

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ NCIX US)

Save some money on the Cpu, and take advantage of the cooler to overclock it and regain the speed that you lose. Great price on the video card, and it comes with 3 free games. Solid Psu at a great price.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)


My question here is what is the difference between going AMD and Intel?

From what I have seen on the forums, people say that Intel is a faster CPU and a better option to go for gaming. I did not know this and that is why I went for a AMD CPU to save money when I got my original PC. Is it really a big difference?

I am definitely going to get that graphic card since a lot of build has it as a core. I don't really care about the games since I am going to start buying stuff at the end of next month.

Another question, this is going to be my first actual build where I put together parts myself. How hard is it to attach the cooling system?

Also, right now my current PC is being dragged down my Data Speed on the windows index thing. Sorry, I don't know what it is properly called. Should I be concern about it when it comes to gaming? If so, how should I go about increasing the speed?
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August 28, 2013 6:35:41 AM

The difference in gaming between the two goes anywhere from 5-10 FPS, to 30+. It depends on the game. If you have the money, you should definitely go with Intel. Free games are free games, especially the ones they are offering. Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3 just to name a couple.

It's not near as hard to attach a cooler as it used to be. You should have no problems just following the directions.

Don't worry about the data speed on your Pc. That is only referring to your HDD. For gaming it has almost no bearing on playability, because it only affects the loading times between zones or maps. Just because you can load a map in 6 seconds vs. 20 seconds, doesn't make a big deal if the gameplay while inside the map is the exact same. A SSD will increase the score, and is a good investment but it only affects load times, not FPS.
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