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August 28, 2013 4:15:25 AM

Hello,
I am wondering if this configuration is possible.

I have a netgear wireless router (Call it MainRouter) that is connect to my ISP. The ip address is 192.168.1.1 and it has a couple of devices that connect to it wirelessly using WPA2-PSK.

I just bought a Netgear WN2000 wireless router (called secondaryrouter). I would like to have this router in a different physical location connect to Main Router wirelessly and utilize it for internet access. I would also like this router to use a different network 10.0.0.x and use different WPA credentials for devices to connect to it. The external port of this router would have an IP address of 192.168.1.4 so it could communicate with MainRouter. This router would also need to have the WPA2-PSK key for MainRouter to allow it to connect basically as a device.

So my phone would have an IP address of 10.0.0.5 and connect to secondary router. when it connects to the internet, it would go through the gateway of 10.0.0.1 (SecondaryRouter IP address) which would forward the data to 192.168.1.1 and send it to the internet

Is this possible, and if so, is there any documentation that someone can point me to?

Thanks!

Stormtrooper

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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 4:24:59 AM

to do this you will need to connect the secondary router to the main router using an ethernet cable and connect it through the internet port on the secondary router to one of the ethernet ports on the internet router, you will need to do this either with a direct ethernet cable or use powerline ethernet adapters.

you simply will not be able to connect to the main router using wireless on the secondary router and have it give out different ip addresses you will just get ip conflicts all the time between the two dhcp servers on each router.

set the default gateway on the secondary router to the ip of the internet router and change the dhcp ip address range to the 10.0.0.0 range instead of the 192.168.1.0 range.

you will also need to use a different SSID on the secondary router but you could keep the passwords the same and also use a different wireless channel otherwise you will get handover and ip issues.
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August 28, 2013 4:35:47 AM

mauller07 said:
to do this you will need to connect the secondary router to the main router using an ethernet cable and connect it through the internet port on the secondary router to one of the ethernet ports on the internet router, you will need to do this either with a direct ethernet cable or use powerline ethernet adapters.

you simply will not be able to connect to the main router using wireless on the secondary router and have it give out different ip addresses you will just get ip conflicts all the time between the two dhcp servers on each router.

set the default gateway on the secondary router to the ip of the internet router and change the dhcp ip address range to the 10.0.0.0 range instead of the 192.168.1.0 range.

you will also need to use a different SSID on the secondary router but you could keep the passwords the same and also use a different wireless channel otherwise you will get handover and ip issues.


So I should say that I am not using DHCP on EITHER router. Everything is using Static IPs on BOTH networks. My problem is how do I have the secondary router use the WPA Key? Unfortunately, connecting hard wired is not an option. I want to have different SSIDs
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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 4:44:28 AM

you wont be able to do that, if one router connects to another wirelessly then it uses and repeats the SSID of the first router.

you should be able to use powerline ethernet adapters they use your houses power cables to create a network.
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August 28, 2013 4:58:28 AM

mauller07 said:
you wont be able to do that, if one router connects to another wirelessly then it uses and repeats the SSID of the first router.

you should be able to use powerline ethernet adapters they use your houses power cables to create a network.


THe powerline is not available as an option here. Nor is a wired connection.

Any other ideas?

Scott
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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 5:10:53 AM

well the only other option is a small wireless access point connected to the internet port of the second router that connects to the first router, you will need to use different channels for the first routers wireless and the second routers wireless for best speeds.

what country are you in by the way you can pretty much get powerline ethernet adapters everywhere.
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August 28, 2013 5:19:10 AM

mauller07 said:
well the only other option is a small wireless access point connected to the internet port of the second router that connects to the first router, you will need to use different channels for the first routers wireless and the second routers wireless for best speeds.

what country are you in by the way you can pretty much get powerline ethernet adapters everywhere.


I am in the US, but powerlines from 1920s :) 

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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 5:21:58 AM

oh don't worry about the ages of the power cables they will work fine, i live in the uk and have installed power line Ethernet adapters in buildings much older with power cables just as old and it works fine.

these are what im talking about. plug them into the socket and a network cable form one to the device you want to network.
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA2010KIT-Powerline-Ad...
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August 28, 2013 5:27:27 AM

check with model number whether your 2nd device can be used as a repeater or WL bridge. If yes, you can connect it to main router but in any case you cannot have different class of IPs on it since there should only be one gateway that communicates with WAN. To have a different class IPs on 2nd router means DHCP is enabled on 2nd router/repeater and normally its not possible.
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August 28, 2013 5:37:42 AM

mauller07 said:
oh don't worry about the ages of the power cables they will work fine, i live in the uk and have installed power line Ethernet adapters in buildings much older with power cables just as old and it works fine.

these are what im talking about. plug them into the socket and a network cable form one to the device you want to network.
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA2010KIT-Powerline-Ad...


Nagaraj1979 said:
check with model number whether your 2nd device can be used as a repeater or WL bridge. If yes, you can connect it to main router but in any case you cannot have different class of IPs on it since there should only be one gateway that communicates with WAN. To have a different class IPs on 2nd router means DHCP is enabled on 2nd router/repeater and normally its not possible.


We tried 3 models of the power ethernet cables and none of them worked :( 


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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 5:50:45 AM

did you make sure to plug the adapters into the wall sockets and not into surge protectors as the surge protector kills the signal?
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August 28, 2013 6:12:09 AM

mauller07 said:
did you make sure to plug the adapters into the wall sockets and not into surge protectors as the surge protector kills the signal?


absolutely!
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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 6:16:23 AM

did you also make sure to press the sync buttons on the adapters?

i guess the only other option would be the wireless access point on the internet port of the second router connected to the first router by wireless.
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August 28, 2013 6:23:55 AM

mauller07 said:
did you also make sure to press the sync buttons on the adapters?

i guess the only other option would be the wireless access point on the internet port of the second router connected to the first router by wireless.


Of course. I am thinking now that I can configure an access point at the second location and plug it into the Secondary router's WAN and use that.

Thoughts?

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a b F Wireless
August 28, 2013 6:28:35 AM

thats what i said lol, use a wireless access point to connect to the primary routers wireless and then connect it to the wan of the secondary router, that way you can keep dhcp active on both routers and just set them to different ip ranges without getting conflicts as the secondary router will use its router to connect to the primary router.
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August 28, 2013 6:56:10 AM

Thanks.. That is what I will do!
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