Hi All -
I'm starting to look at components for my next build. I'll probably buy and start assembling things in late October / early November.
While I tinker quite a bit, this will only be my second full build from the ground up. (Never gonna buy another PC from the store again!)
Right now I'm primarily looking for a recommendation on which CPU I should consider, but would invite other thoughts or comments as well. Here are the key parameters:
o This is for my parents - they are retired and need only a basic setup
o I don't need this to be the cheapest build possible, but Dad will be a bit sensitive to price
- Unlike a build I would do for myself, where I would wind up with gold-plating, just because it's fun
o No gaming. Well, games would be like cribbage or solitaire (not like Batman Arkham)
- Point here is that I'm not planning to put a graphics card on it, so it will need integrated graphics.
o Basic applications would be Word, Excel, browsing the web, email, Skype for the grandkid in the UK, YouTube video clips, news websites, online shopping, DVDs, and maybe a little bit of social media (Facebook, Linkedin etc.)
o They don't have any mobile devices - iPhone, iPad, other smart phone, etc. that would need significant disk space for syncing or storing content
o Since we're not looking to run the most current games or massively processor intensive applications, ever, I'd like to see this box be viable for 5+ years.
o Probably not overclocking, as we live in different cities and I need this machine to be rock stable. Can't be on-call to make tweaks here and there.
o Dad is currently frustrated by how slow the existing PC has become. Particularly boot time and app load time.
Dad has mentioned a few times that the current machine he has is slow. Well, it's probably a 6+ year old Windows XP single-core processor with only 2-4 GB RAM that he bought "off the shelf." He's not looking for sub-second response time, and I think any improvement would be great.
I want to start talking w/ Dad about the parts, optimizations, and cost tradeoffs now so that I can shop the sales and build this before Christmas.
Here's what I'm thinking for the configuration
o Intel CPU
o Core i5-4570
- It's got most current integrated graphics, four cores, good clock speed, most current technology
- I realize that we could do a much cheaper CPU for their basic needs, but I'm trying to design for the next 5+ years.
o MOBO - I don't need to go floor-cheap on this, but I don't need too many bells or whistles either. I'm probably going w/ a basic board from a well-known vendor. I'd consider ASRock, ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte, Intel, or MSI. Any thoughts on these, or other brands I should consider?
o SSD - Probably not, unless Dad *really* wants to spend the $$$s for performance.
o RAM - Probably 2 x 4GB
o Optical - DVD burner, probably not BluRay
For the OS, I'm thinking Windows 7 (64 bit), which will be good until Jan 2020. . They're currently running XP, and they're used to the interface. I think Windows 8 would be too much of a jump for them, especially since I'm in a different city and I can't be there to help them on any regular basis.
Would welcome any thoughts on my approach.
Thanks,
GorfTheFrog
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Updated - 3 Sep 2013
Hi All -
Thanks for the responses. I'm decided to pair the CPU above (i5-4570) with one of these motherboards as my baseline. I'm selecting either the Z87 or H87 chipset (vs. B85) to keep options open for SSD caching in the future. Individual component and bundle pricing may influence my final selection slightly.
Any thoughts on these specific MOBOs as candidates?
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414820/Z87-G41_PC_Mate_Socket_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/417840/GA-Z87-HD3_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
ASUS H87M-Plus/CSM Socket LGA 1150 mATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414767/H87M-Plus-CSM_Socket_LGA_1150_mATX_Intel_Motherboard
Thanks!
I'm starting to look at components for my next build. I'll probably buy and start assembling things in late October / early November.
While I tinker quite a bit, this will only be my second full build from the ground up. (Never gonna buy another PC from the store again!)
Right now I'm primarily looking for a recommendation on which CPU I should consider, but would invite other thoughts or comments as well. Here are the key parameters:
o This is for my parents - they are retired and need only a basic setup
o I don't need this to be the cheapest build possible, but Dad will be a bit sensitive to price
- Unlike a build I would do for myself, where I would wind up with gold-plating, just because it's fun
o No gaming. Well, games would be like cribbage or solitaire (not like Batman Arkham)
- Point here is that I'm not planning to put a graphics card on it, so it will need integrated graphics.
o Basic applications would be Word, Excel, browsing the web, email, Skype for the grandkid in the UK, YouTube video clips, news websites, online shopping, DVDs, and maybe a little bit of social media (Facebook, Linkedin etc.)
o They don't have any mobile devices - iPhone, iPad, other smart phone, etc. that would need significant disk space for syncing or storing content
o Since we're not looking to run the most current games or massively processor intensive applications, ever, I'd like to see this box be viable for 5+ years.
o Probably not overclocking, as we live in different cities and I need this machine to be rock stable. Can't be on-call to make tweaks here and there.
o Dad is currently frustrated by how slow the existing PC has become. Particularly boot time and app load time.
Dad has mentioned a few times that the current machine he has is slow. Well, it's probably a 6+ year old Windows XP single-core processor with only 2-4 GB RAM that he bought "off the shelf." He's not looking for sub-second response time, and I think any improvement would be great.
I want to start talking w/ Dad about the parts, optimizations, and cost tradeoffs now so that I can shop the sales and build this before Christmas.
Here's what I'm thinking for the configuration
o Intel CPU
o Core i5-4570
- It's got most current integrated graphics, four cores, good clock speed, most current technology
- I realize that we could do a much cheaper CPU for their basic needs, but I'm trying to design for the next 5+ years.
o MOBO - I don't need to go floor-cheap on this, but I don't need too many bells or whistles either. I'm probably going w/ a basic board from a well-known vendor. I'd consider ASRock, ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte, Intel, or MSI. Any thoughts on these, or other brands I should consider?
o SSD - Probably not, unless Dad *really* wants to spend the $$$s for performance.
o RAM - Probably 2 x 4GB
o Optical - DVD burner, probably not BluRay
For the OS, I'm thinking Windows 7 (64 bit), which will be good until Jan 2020. . They're currently running XP, and they're used to the interface. I think Windows 8 would be too much of a jump for them, especially since I'm in a different city and I can't be there to help them on any regular basis.
Would welcome any thoughts on my approach.
Thanks,
GorfTheFrog
==============
Updated - 3 Sep 2013
Hi All -
Thanks for the responses. I'm decided to pair the CPU above (i5-4570) with one of these motherboards as my baseline. I'm selecting either the Z87 or H87 chipset (vs. B85) to keep options open for SSD caching in the future. Individual component and bundle pricing may influence my final selection slightly.
Any thoughts on these specific MOBOs as candidates?
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate Socket LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414820/Z87-G41_PC_Mate_Socket_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 LGA 1150 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/417840/GA-Z87-HD3_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
ASUS H87M-Plus/CSM Socket LGA 1150 mATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414767/H87M-Plus-CSM_Socket_LGA_1150_mATX_Intel_Motherboard
Thanks!