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August 29, 2013 10:22:27 AM

Hi everyone. I have been planning on building my first gaming pc for a while now and I finally have enough money to do it. However I'm a bit lacking in hardware knowledge.

I will mainly use this rig for playing games (hopefully on max with high fps) and working in unity, maya, 3ds Max, AE, PS etc. At the moment the following rig will cost around €1300 but I have enough to go to about €1500. Would be nice to go lower if possible though.

Anyway:

Case - Corsair Obsidian Series 350D - mATX
PSU - Thermaltake Smart SE 730W ATX 2.3
Mobo - Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5 mATX
CPU - Intel Core i5-4670K (will probably overclock)
CPU Cooling - Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H80i
RAM - 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600
GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked ACX
SSD - Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB 2.5inch MLC SATA600
HDD - Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 - 2TB 7200RPM
Optical Drive - SH-224DB/BEBE Samsung
OS - Windows 8

Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance.
a c 358 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 10:27:45 AM

The PSU is trash. Get a unit from Antec, xfx, corsair, seasonic.

Drop the liquid cooler. they are loud and don't cool any better than an air cooler. They are just for show.

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August 29, 2013 10:44:25 AM

Nice build :) 
the corsair 350D is a very nice case but extra case fans make a big difference.
the H80i is a nice cooler but the stock fans can be loud at full speed.

looking at a couple off review on you Thermaltake Smart SE 730W PSU, it doesn't do to well. it might be better to look at another psu.

sry to say i can't save you any money. but you should check out this forum. it's the reason i got a corsair 350D :) 
http://www.overclock.net/t/1401102/corsair-350d-owners-...
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August 29, 2013 11:11:01 AM

Arma 3 is no joke. It's CPU intensive. It won't even come close to maxing out the GPU. I have a hard time running it on ultra everything on just 1 monitor with GTX 760s in SLI and the same processor you have. I've got it up to 4.5 GHz but I'm on the dev build with the new island which had performance issues to begin with. I can run it above 30-40 FPS pretty well, and I'm sure with more fine tuning I can do better.

A lot of people are having issues OC'ing the Haswells to even 4.5, so there's no guarantee you can even get one there. ASUS said about 50% reached that point.
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August 29, 2013 12:21:59 PM

gpellis87 said:
Arma 3 is no joke. It's CPU intensive. It won't even come close to maxing out the GPU. I have a hard time running it on ultra everything on just 1 monitor with GTX 760s in SLI and the same processor you have. I've got it up to 4.5 GHz but I'm on the dev build with the new island which had performance issues to begin with. I can run it above 30-40 FPS pretty well, and I'm sure with more fine tuning I can do better.

A lot of people are having issues OC'ing the Haswells to even 4.5, so there's no guarantee you can even get one there. ASUS said about 50% reached that point.


Thanks for your response.
Yeah I've heard the CPU takes a big hit with Arma 3. Do you think that they will have it better optimised by release date? Or is getting something like the i7-4770k a better option due to the cache difference? Also do you have any links for a good overclocking tutorial?

Thanks.
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August 29, 2013 12:33:08 PM

GeekThief said:
Nice build :) 
the corsair 350D is a very nice case but extra case fans make a big difference.
the H80i is a nice cooler but the stock fans can be loud at full speed.

looking at a couple off review on you Thermaltake Smart SE 730W PSU, it doesn't do to well. it might be better to look at another psu.

sry to say i can't save you any money. but you should check out this forum. it's the reason i got a corsair 350D :) 
http://www.overclock.net/t/1401102/corsair-350d-owners-...


Thanks for the link! Some sexy rigs in there. Now I have to start thinking about a colour theme :) .

How do you like the H100i? I was thinking about getting that instead but wasn't sure if it would fit. I don't really mind the fan noise so much because I will have a headset. And also what case fan sizes are good for the 350D?

Cheers for the heads up about the PSU by the way. Am thinking maybe the Corsair AX760i now.
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August 29, 2013 12:33:49 PM

nzshapeshifter said:
gpellis87 said:
Arma 3 is no joke. It's CPU intensive. It won't even come close to maxing out the GPU. I have a hard time running it on ultra everything on just 1 monitor with GTX 760s in SLI and the same processor you have. I've got it up to 4.5 GHz but I'm on the dev build with the new island which had performance issues to begin with. I can run it above 30-40 FPS pretty well, and I'm sure with more fine tuning I can do better.

A lot of people are having issues OC'ing the Haswells to even 4.5, so there's no guarantee you can even get one there. ASUS said about 50% reached that point.


Thanks for your response.
Yeah I've heard the CPU takes a big hit with Arma 3. Do you think that they will have it better optimised by release date? Or is getting something like the i7-4770k a better option due to the cache difference? Also do you have any links for a good overclocking tutorial?

Thanks.


I just browsed around for Haswell OC'ing guides. There's a few out there. Can't recall exactly what I used. Look up IntelGod quick and dirty haswell guide, it's on the forums here somewhere.

I would hope they'll have the game better optimized, but we're talking about Bohemia here. None of their games are optimized very well. The game also doesn't utilize hyper-threading from what I understand so from the comments I've seen on the forum, some people may see 1-2 FPS difference between the two processors, but nothing worth the cost.
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August 29, 2013 1:11:06 PM

the H100i does a good enough job but is could be better. i have 2x SP120 and need them close to full speed to keep my cpu cool under full load at 4.4 or higher. at stock speeds it'silent with the fan only at 900 rpm (max speed 2350rpm).

it's also a very tight fit. the screw that holds the fans to the h100i rad are pushing against my cpu 8pin power connection on my motherboard. by alright i could take this one screw out and it would fix the problem. but thats how tight of fit it is.

check this picture
http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d6/900x900px-LL-d6286369_fan...

i'm now starting to like the idea off mounting the rad at the fron off the case with 4 fan push pull. then putting my HDD's up where the dvd drives would go.
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August 29, 2013 1:43:47 PM

gpellis87 said:
nzshapeshifter said:
gpellis87 said:
Arma 3 is no joke. It's CPU intensive. It won't even come close to maxing out the GPU. I have a hard time running it on ultra everything on just 1 monitor with GTX 760s in SLI and the same processor you have. I've got it up to 4.5 GHz but I'm on the dev build with the new island which had performance issues to begin with. I can run it above 30-40 FPS pretty well, and I'm sure with more fine tuning I can do better.

A lot of people are having issues OC'ing the Haswells to even 4.5, so there's no guarantee you can even get one there. ASUS said about 50% reached that point.


Thanks for your response.
Yeah I've heard the CPU takes a big hit with Arma 3. Do you think that they will have it better optimised by release date? Or is getting something like the i7-4770k a better option due to the cache difference? Also do you have any links for a good overclocking tutorial?

Thanks.


I just browsed around for Haswell OC'ing guides. There's a few out there. Can't recall exactly what I used. Look up IntelGod quick and dirty haswell guide, it's on the forums here somewhere.

I would hope they'll have the game better optimized, but we're talking about Bohemia here. None of their games are optimized very well. The game also doesn't utilize hyper-threading from what I understand so from the comments I've seen on the forum, some people may see 1-2 FPS difference between the two processors, but nothing worth the cost.


Cheers for that. Here's the link if anyone else seeing this wants to have a look http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1722630/intel-god-quick-dirty-guide-4ghz-haswell.html

Hmm that's a shame. Hopefully its not too much of an effort to get it running nicely enough. Thanks for the info about the CPUs though.
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August 29, 2013 1:52:57 PM

GeekThief said:
the H100i does a good enough job but is could be better. i have 2x SP120 and need them close to full speed to keep my cpu cool under full load at 4.4 or higher. at stock speeds it'silent with the fan only at 900 rpm (max speed 2350rpm).

it's also a very tight fit. the screw that holds the fans to the h100i rad are pushing against my cpu 8pin power connection on my motherboard. by alright i could take this one screw out and it would fix the problem. but thats how tight of fit it is.

check this picture
http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d6/900x900px-LL-d6286369_fan...

i'm now starting to like the idea off mounting the rad at the fron off the case with 4 fan push pull. then putting my HDD's up where the dvd drives would go.


Shit that is tight. Yeah I was thinking of putting the rad if I got a h100i at the front as well. Then just stocking it up with as many fans as I can fit. Two extras for the rad, two up top and one at the back. But now I don't know where to fit the optical drive :/ 
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August 29, 2013 2:55:29 PM

i don't have a Optical Disc Drive. everything i have is download for the most part. i used my laptop to make Iso's of my games that needed disc's and am using Daemon Tools when i play those games. i have thought about getting an external usb dvd drive but will worry about that when i need it.

Guess if i didn't have my laptop i would have gotten one by now
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August 29, 2013 3:00:49 PM

tiny voices said:
The PSU is trash. Get a unit from Antec, xfx, corsair, seasonic.

Drop the liquid cooler. they are loud and don't cool any better than an air cooler. They are just for show.



Im affraid i have to disagree with you on that im running a H70 core and barely notice any noise coming from it.


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a b 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 3:04:00 PM

Great build! If BF4 will be anything like Crysis 3 it should run it at 30-45 FPS Max settings
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a c 358 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 3:37:22 PM

Callam Kitcher said:
tiny voices said:
The PSU is trash. Get a unit from Antec, xfx, corsair, seasonic.

Drop the liquid cooler. they are loud and don't cool any better than an air cooler. They are just for show.



Im affraid i have to disagree with you on that im running a H70 core and barely notice any noise coming from it.




Yes but you paid much more than the price of an air cooler that will cool just as well. Generally air coolers are a better deal.
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August 29, 2013 3:41:59 PM

not really the H70 core with 2 fans was under £50 and the cpu fan i was looking at was about £47.
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a c 358 4 Gaming
August 29, 2013 3:55:24 PM

Callam Kitcher said:
not really the H70 core with 2 fans was under £50 and the cpu fan i was looking at was about £47.


The coolermaster hyper 212 evo costs 24 USD and cools within 2 degrees of the h70 with 2 fans.

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a c 358 4 Gaming
August 30, 2013 8:47:06 AM

That cooler is no good. The evo is the best cooler in the price range by far. It has been tested and gives a perfect rating by every website. Any poor reviews of it your have seen are because of morons not installing it correctly or not knowing how to properly operate thermal paste.

That other cooler you posted is pointless because it is an off brand and you canget a better cooler for the same money. Have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. It is the best air cooler there pretty much is. Will cool just as well if not better than an h80i. Competes with the h100i in many tests.
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August 30, 2013 8:54:25 AM

tiny voices said:
That cooler is no good. The evo is the best cooler in the price range by far. It has been tested and gives a perfect rating by every website. Any poor reviews of it your have seen are because of morons not installing it correctly or not knowing how to properly operate thermal paste.

That other cooler you posted is pointless because it is an off brand and you canget a better cooler for the same money. Have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. It is the best air cooler there pretty much is. Will cool just as well if not better than an h80i. Competes with the h100i in many tests.


For me I went with a closed loop because of the sheer size difference. Most of the CPU air coolers are absolutely massive.
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August 30, 2013 8:57:54 AM

gpellis87 said:
tiny voices said:
That cooler is no good. The evo is the best cooler in the price range by far. It has been tested and gives a perfect rating by every website. Any poor reviews of it your have seen are because of morons not installing it correctly or not knowing how to properly operate thermal paste.

That other cooler you posted is pointless because it is an off brand and you canget a better cooler for the same money. Have a look at the Noctua NH-D14. It is the best air cooler there pretty much is. Will cool just as well if not better than an h80i. Competes with the h100i in many tests.


For me I went with a closed loop because of the sheer size difference. Most of the CPU air coolers are absolutely massive.


That is true. Its all personal preference. I would rather see a massive air cooler and know someone is serious as opposed to a closed loop cooler and know know if they are trying to show off or not by having 'water cooling', when it isn't real water cooling.
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