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i dont know much about computers, im going to build a pc for aprox. $600-$650 and i bought a gtx 660 twin frozr. what motherboard should i buy? i dont want to spend more than $80 on a motherboard, and do you think its OK to get a i5-3570k? or should i get something cheaper?? and i also wonder, how do i know if my GPU will fit on the motherboard? and what other components do i need to build my pc? i also plan on getting 8GB RAM. i dont have more than $700 so what should i get? i already spent $215 on the GPU, that leaves me with 400-450 to spend. thanks. i will be using this PC on a 22 inch 1080 TV, mostly to play BF4 on medium-high settings
 
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The worse thing you can do with a small budget is to just start buying parts without making out a parts list and pricing out those parts. At the rate your going you'll have all the budget spent and only have half the parts.
The i5-3570k while a very nice processor will cost just over $200 and a decent motherboard to match, about $100 to $125. The i5-3570k is a LGA socket 1155 CPU so any motherboard will have to be that socket type.
8gb of ram will run $50 to $60 and then you'll need a hard drive , case , dvd drive, power supply , OS , keyboard and mouse.

You can use this web site to spec out a build and it gives the lowest prices found on the web and lists every thing so you can keep track.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
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The worse thing you can do with a small budget is to just start buying parts without making out a parts list and pricing out those parts. At the rate your going you'll have all the budget spent and only have half the parts.
The i5-3570k while a very nice processor will cost just over $200 and a decent motherboard to match, about $100 to $125. The i5-3570k is a LGA socket 1155 CPU so any motherboard will have to be that socket type.
8gb of ram will run $50 to $60 and then you'll need a hard drive , case , dvd drive, power supply , OS , keyboard and mouse.

You can use this web site to spec out a build and it gives the lowest prices found on the web and lists every thing so you can keep track.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
 
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that was very useful, thanks.
so, i am shure i want my 660, no i haven't buyed it yet but i am concious that it will be more than 600 if i buy what i am saying.
i am pretty noobish with this kind of stuff, first time building PC so im not shure which motherboard should i get, how do i know which one is the correct for me? i already have a mouse & keyboard, as well as my screen, i don't want a fast dvd drive, its OK if it's slow but of course i don't want it to ruin in 1 year. if i get the GPU and CPU i want , that will be $420, will leave me with $250, the HDD + case + power supply + cables , cover that money. i would really appreciate if you help me here. which motherboard should i get with a GTX 660 and a i5-3570K? i guess those are the main parts i should be aware of besides the RAM. i don't know much of this stuff so please i ask some patiente :) oh and BTW, which CPU cooler should i get?
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master RC-430-KWN6 ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $791.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-29 22:23 EDT-0400)

Ok this is what I came up with and naturally this is just a list and it can easily be adjusted , changed and completely done over in order to get to the build that you want.
You'll notice that I selected the i5-4670k and that was because it was the same price as the i5-3570k so it makes sense to go with the newer technology.
The final price includes rebates , promo codes and combos and the e-tailors that these parts can be purchased from is also listed. I left out the Micro Center because they are brick and morter stores only so if you live near one let me know and I'll redo the list with it included.
 
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well that was useful! thanks! actually i don't live in the USA so i buy everything on ebay, get shipped to Florida and then to my country so that's something i'll take care of :) thanks for the 4670k detail. i saw the same thing with the 2500k and i noticed 3570k was newer, but didn't know about the 4670k. so do you think everything you listed will fit well together?? and my last question, what case should i buy? the best option for me is if i can choose one of the following because they sell this ones really close to my house:
- CASE THERMALTAKE VERSA I ATX USB 3.0
- CASE THERMALTAKE VERSA II ATX USB 3.0
- CASE THERMALTAKE V3 MID ATX VL800001W2Z
- CASE THERMALTAKE V4 VM30001W2Z
- CASE THERMALTAKE COMMANDERMSI EPIC VN400A1W2N BLACK
- CASE THERMALTAKE COMMANDERMSI SNOW VN40006W2N WHITE/BLACK
- CASE THERMALTAKE COMMANDER MS-II BLACK
- CASE THERMALTAKE COMMANDERMSI EPIC VN400A1W2N-B RED/BLACK

note that none of these come with power supply, so i suppose the power supply you listed may work for me.
 
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Any of the Commander series that catches your eye will do, cases are mostly a personal choice anyways. However since they only come with one fan you will want to add another fan or three because you will want a good air flow.

If your future plans include adding a second video card or water cooling then you will want to up the watts size on the PSU but if not then you can keep it at the 600w.
 
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just asking, for what do you need a 2nd video card if you already have one? i mean, i've never heard of that. i'll definetively add another fan, i don't want my pc to heat up my room heheh, so i think i'll buy all the things you listed... because i don't know that much about computers do i need to buy everything you listed? just making shure, i don't mant to do something stupid. and in the end im actually buying EVERYTHING you listed exept for the case which you already told me, a commander that i like. oh and my router is far from my room so how do i reach for internet? do i need a usb or something so i can get wireless intenet? thanks (P.S. EVERYTHING)
 
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First , to answer your question on the second video card , people will buy one , two or three video cards depending on how much they want to spend and how many FPS (Frames Per Second) they want in a game, myself I have three video cards. If you buy Nvidia then you connect them in SLI and if AMD then it's Crossfire.

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If you've never built a computer before then you should do some research and there are some good You Tube videos that can help.
You can get all the parts that I listed (except for the case) as they are good parts and fit in your budget or you can change them out for other parts if you want. I made that list in order to fit in your stated budget or close enough, and if you decide to increase your budget then there are better quality parts that you can substitute and that will be up to your finances.

The heat sink will most likely come with some thermal compound to put between the CPU and the heat sink, this thermal compound should be spread in a very thin layer if it is not already pre-applied to the base of the heat sink.
Some people like to buy a better grade of thermal compound instead of the one that come with the heat sink or even the CPU. This is what I use.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

If you want to do wireless network then you can use a USB device or a separate addon wireless network card. Here are some examples.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122227

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704133

 
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So if when i buy BF4 it gives me lets say 30fps and i want to increase it, can i add another gtx 660? and it would be nice if you listed me those parts that i could buy which are better than the listed previously. and, for what does that arctic silver work? i have no idea what it is. i forgot to ask you before, do you think this DVD reader is good? i don't want an asus $100 dvd reader :p http://www.intelaf.com/precios_stock_detallado.asp?codigo=DVDRW-SAM-24XNS

you said that i should appply the silver if it's not preapplied, so if it is then i don't have to buy it? damn i ask alot
 
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You don't need an expensive DVD drive , the one I listed in the list is only $23, you just need it to play music cd and if you have any DVD media on a disc. Some hardware has installation software on a DVD.
The small tube of Artic Silver 5 is only $9 and it's always good to have some on hand in case you have to remove the heat sink for some reason. If you have to remove the heat sink for some reason you have to redo the thermal compound with a fresh layer after wiping off the previous layer.

Adding a second video card is exactly for that reason , to increase FPS. Some games are so demanding on high settings that a single middle of the road video card will struggle and you end up having to lower the settings or resolution. So on the GTX 600 model line you have the 660, 660Ti, 670 and the 680 and with the newer 700 line you have the 760, 770, 780 and the Titan. Each of these cards will give varying degrees of performance and FPS in any given game. The higher and newer the card the better the game performance and then add o that multiple cards and you get many different levels of performance.
The power supply plays a key role here as the video card can draw a lot of Watts during game play and it also has to power the CPU , ram , motherboard and HDDs and fans. If there is any chance that you will add a second video card you can get a higher watt PSU now or buy one later to replace what you get now.

The parts that would be changed by an increased budget would be the video card , the motherboard and the power supply, the CPU would stay because it's the best that you can get at the moment and will give you the best performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131980

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130953

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121768

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139029
 
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... now you really made me question about getting a gtx 660, cards like the 760 as you listed are better but even though they are more expensive, they are $50 more so maybe i could get it. even if, do you think it's worth it the slight improovement? http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-760-vs-GeForce-GTX-660
 
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honestly, i think i'll upgrade my card later, probably on 2015, first i'll worry about the gpu, cpu, hdd, motherboard etc... i think the 660 will do :) thanks. ok so finally this is what i think i'll buy, tell me what do you think: (when i write '(local)' it means i'll buy it here in my local store)

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB RAM
comando case (local)
GeForce GTX 660 2GB Twin Frozr
Samsung CD/DVD reader (local)
SATA cables (local)
1TB internal hard drive (local)
ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
THERMALTAKE POWER SUPPPLY FOR i5/i7 ATX 12V 600WATTS (local) ( this one: http://www.intelaf.com/precios_stock_detallado.asp?codigo=FP-I5I7-TR2600W )

umm... yeah thats what i'll get. tell me if you think thats OK
 
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caught fire? ahahahaha ! no, i'm shure its a good brand, my friend has a pc with thermaltake and he says its really good, at least thats what he says, maybe yours caught on fire because it was too much Watts going on or something. well im happy ill finally get my pc done. it will be ready on mid-october, i'll come here if i need help with something. last thing, it happens quite often that the electricity on the house goes off because of heavy rain, so what can i buy to protect it? sometimes the lights suddenly go off, so maybe it could ruin the power supply or something...

another thing, i've seen some reviews about the comander case, and i got my conclusion that i HAVE to buy at least 1 extra 120 fan, specially if i put a gtx 660, because its twin frozr its not that much of a deal... well... but actually worried because i dont know the fan will fit. are you shure it can fit in?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHKBCz_pN0 take a look at the inside (although this guy doesnt know that much what he's doing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwaLUCKex68

all those comander cases are pretty much the same, only the style changes.
 
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The standard case fan used to be the 80mm fan but now all the cases are going with the 120mm fan and you very rarely see a case with the 80mm fan.

Loosing power is not the issue it's usually the power surges that can ruin things, that's why you should always plug the power supply into a surge protected power strip and not directly into the wall outlet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107131
 
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exactly what i needed, thanks :) ill tell you later how the pc is going
 
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man i almost forgot!! i want to get a sound card, 7.1 surround for shure, i was looking at the sound blaster X-Fi which is an option, but well, i don't know which sound card should i get, a razer surround or CMSS-3D? which one is better for what and why?
 
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Since motherboards started putting HD sound chips on the PCB you don't hear much about sound cards and unless you an Audiophile the onboard sound is very good and usually HD 7.1. Some of the higher end motherboards will actually have a Creative Labs chip right on the PCB with headphone amplifiers.
The board your choosing has the Realtek ALC892 with 7.1 channels.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=284

If you want to go with a separate sound card then you would want to go with a card that will cost $50 or more to get better audio then what already on the motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132007

 
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All of my music is in FLAC, and i just can't stand hearing 320 kbps, it so... noisy, most people say that there isn't much difference but FLAC has this special crisp sound that feels so good. so the motherboard already has a 7.1 huh? if i get a razer megalodon then, will it work right? what would be the difference between getting a sound card and using the current in the motherboard, is it worth it?
 
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There are choices to be made and the best thing you can do is to get as much info as you can on what the differences are. You also want to know what motherboard you will be getting. If because of budget you get a medium to low priced MB then you'll be getting a regular Realtek ALC892 chip for the sound and that is 7.1 channels.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157370

As you go up in price on the motherboard you can get different Realtek chips. Realtek ALC1150 in this MB;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157393

The advantage of getting the motherboard and holding off on the sound is that you can add a sound card or headphone set at any time if you feel that the onboard sound is not good enough.
I think that in your situation if the onboard sound is not good enough then you should get a sound card and a good pair of headphones. I think the USB headphones are not as good as the sound card and headphones as a separate set.
 
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but the motherboard i'm getting is the Grock you listed me at the beggining of this conversation. i honestly think that the onboard sound will be quite good for what i'm expecting, the 7.1 will be used in BF3 and many reviews i've seen say that the megalodon rock at it. i was just asking if it would be a dramatical change to get one but as you say i'll loook it up and read. in another thing i changed opinion, ill get the gtx 660 ti because it will handle next gen games better than the 660 non ti twin frozr.
 
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The Razer Megalodon has it's own sound card at 7.1 built into the headphone controller and connects to the motherboard by USB so it doesn't use the onboard sound chip of the motherboard. So if that headphone set gives you the sound that you want then that's what you should get. Otherwise you can get a regular pair of headphones and use the onboard sound to supply audio to them.

If your the type that enjoys the sound effects of a game along with the video of it then you need to customize your computer for that experience. However that ends up costing you more money and if your willing to spend that money to get those features then that's a choice for you to make.

A nice $75 to $100 sound card and a pair of quality headphones to go with a GTX 770 will give you great sound and video. Now if you don't have the money for that then you have to go with what you can afford.
 
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you get what you pay for. a gtx 770 would be nice but, at the end the best i can afford is a 660. i went over to see the price of the 690... shitted my pants after seeing the price. i'll ask my friend who is going to help me build the PC and i'll come back to tell you how's going. also, i'm getting an ASUS motherboard (didn´t get the one you listed because its like having a ferrari and putting water on it instead of gas), and i'm not getting a CPU cooler because it already brings one (of course).
 
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Hi, after a month i finally built it, got a gtx660ti, asus B85M, I5-4570, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD, and its a monster, tweak it correctly and youll get a gtx 670. at the end it ended up costing $1200 incluiding all the PC parts, keyboard mouse, monitor and its prretty good... im satisfied :) stupid gtx690, freaking waste of money, get 3/4 of its performance with $500 less lol. my monster is ready for BF4
 
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