which CPU amd or Intel ???

50mk · Aug 29, 2013

OK so thought of AMD it's 8 core were seeing games that's uses more cores and amd hot fixes from Intel
plus OC it it would be a pretty nice system I am sort of a multitasker running things in the back round while I play my games download stuff burn disks stuff like that or should I go intel they have a good view on games but they change there board every gen I know this is a long note but thank you for reading this and I look forward to hearing your thoughts

JackNaylorPE · Aug 29, 2013

Here's my rule of thumb

< $850 system cost => AMD
> $850 system cost => Intel

inzone · Aug 29, 2013

Your choice will depend on a few things and the first being price and overall budget amount for your build. If your budget is high enough to get an Intel CPU then you should do so and the model will again depend on price along with what your useage will be, just gaming and burning dvds will need an i5-4670k while video editing, photo editing and video rendering will require an i7-4770k.

With a low budget amount you can get an eight core AMD CPU for under $200, but you will have to overclock it to get to the level of the Intel CPU.

bmanv13 · Aug 29, 2013

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Very interesting to watch and you will be very surprised. This will answer your question of whether to go with AMD or Intel.

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

any ideas for a a cheap but good power supply that goes with a amd 8350 and a 7970 links would be nice

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

bmanv13 :

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any ideas for a a cheap but good power supply that goes with a amd 8350 and a 7970 links would be nice

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

This power supply would be a good choice and give you enough watts to run all your current components. Power supplies are not made to go with certain parts , they work with both Intel and AMD and Nvidia.

NewITguy · Aug 30, 2013

Go with amd if you have a limited budget but still want a decent performance(still good though)
Go with intel if you got money to spend

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

I would hope that you didn't make your choice of CPU based on that you tube video because as the guy in the video said ALL of the other testing sites are saying Intel and here HE comes and says no, AMD beats Intel in most games. This is the first time I have ever heard this and while it is true that there is competition and the AMD CPUs can play these games there is no way to know if you made the right decision unless you have both Intel and AMD CPUs to test yourself.
Which one wins most of the time ? It's a good question but an even better question is are you going to believe one person saying AMD or are you going to believe a whole group of benchmarking sites saying Intel ?
It's your money and your decision and I would do enough research to make the right one.

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

there is wisdom in what you say well first I'm going to buy the psu and the 7970 then the other parts I have an intel right now 2.20 duel core and a 9600 GT it has been going really good so Intel is good for games huh is iit future proof I mean the GPU is the best part but alot of people are saying intel so which one to choose the best for games i5 3570k and I picked out the motherboaard for amd but IDK what to get for intel I need a good cheap board any thoughts?

MEC-777 · Aug 30, 2013

50mk :

First off, that was very difficult to read...lol.

Second, what is your budget?

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

I just recently looked at the pricing of CPUs and the i5-3570k and the i5-4670k are $20 apart in price so at this point if you were going with Intel I would get the i5-4670k and it's a LGA 1150 socket so you should be good for a few more releases.

Depending on your budget this board is $140 so let us know if it's too high or if you want to go higher.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981

MEC-777 · Aug 30, 2013

hafijur :

There are various reason why Logan's results differ from other test sites benchmarks. I think the fact that you jump so quickly to assuming Logan rigged the results or just plain lied is a knee-jerk reaction from your own bias for Intel and that you just can't believe those results even though they very well could be true results from those specific systems.

I don't want to get into this again, but just for the sake of the OP, I wanted to just briefly comment on a couple things so that 50mk doesn't get the wrong idea.

hajifur, you said look at metro 2033, no real difference. Ok, looking at the first chart, they're running at 1440 max settings. Nearly ALL the results were in the 30-35fps range, regardless of CPU. Of course there's no real difference here because with that game at 1440 and max settings, the 7970 must be bottle necking the system on the graphics side.

Looking further down at the same settings with 2 and 3 7970's we see the 8350 running 10+ fps faster than the 3220. Not a massive difference, but the gap between the 8350 and i7's is far less at 1-5fps on the dual crossfire setup. So you see, once you reduce the bottle necking on the graphics side, then you start to see the real difference in CPU performance.

Also, based on all the results posted on that page, it would be safe to say that that game is very demanding on graphics and not so much on the CPU and thus, it wouldn't make sense to buy a CPU that's $100+ more expensive for pretty much the exact same results.

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

This is not the place for that discussion as the issue here is to get the OP a decent CPU within his budget that will perform well in games. We all know that both AMD and Intel will do that so it's a matter of choice. For me I'm totally against any histerics going either way as it is not a case of one CPU in total domination of the other but it is more of a close competition.

Anyone that wants to exaggerate and claim that one crushes the other , or wipes the floor or any other extreme description in my book has no credibility.

MEC-777 · Aug 30, 2013

chriss000 :

The ram speed doesn't make a HUGE difference, but the 8350 support the higher speeds. So why not run it and gain that edge?

This is why I think it's very important to take tests like these in the proper context and take into account the entire system, applications and settings as there may be certain things, like ram speed, that may give one system a slight edge over another.

Could it be that the faster ram used in Tek's testing is what made the difference in allowing the system with the 8350 to nudge past the 3570k? Maybe so. Maybe that's one advantage AMD has right now over Intel.

I'm not biased in the slightest, just listing the facts and attempting to draw conclusions. I think people should be very careful when analyzing benchmarks and not be so hasty to jump on someone for turning up differing results. Just because they are different does not mean they are wrong.

MEC-777 · Aug 30, 2013

inzone :

Well said and my apologies for my last post. You were posting this while I was busy typing I guess...lol.

But yeah, it would help to know the OP's budget so we can better make a recommendation.

Based on gaming and multi-tasking performance per dollar, the 8350 would be my choice. For a motherboard to go with it, something like the Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 should work well.

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

well budget wise I'm getting a 530 black case with a
COOLER MASTER Eisberg 240L Prestige
8GB memory
in all good time I'm getting these in parts so in a month basses
so I need a Intel motherboard that works really but not that high price the one for 170 cought my eye I think I'm going with that and the 4k series cpu
on a side note on the GPU side I am getting a 7970 and the PSU first but what kind of GPU should I get tthere's alot of em out there

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

Saphire and Asus make good video cards and XFX as well, Asus seems to spend a lot of effort on cooling thier video cards and Saphire just makes good AMD/Radeon video cards.
Here are some motherboards for the i5-4670k

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131977

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131980

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

I have the money you think I should get the i7 4770k?

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

ASUS Z87-PLUS thats the one becouse I need a pci for my wifi cardanyway like I said should I go with a i7 4770k?

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

and also I seen the XFX is 369 and and Sapphire is just 300 and difference there

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

Yes in the HD 7970 they make a lot of different models, I would try to get a 1ghz clock speed model oe higher if you can.

The i7 would only be needed if your were doing photo or video editing , it's not for gaming since games will not make use of the Hyper Threading. You can if you want since it's your money but it's not going to make a difference in game play.

inzone · Aug 30, 2013

Instead of spending extra money on the CPU I would put it towards getting the best video card that you can afford. The i5-4670k will handle any game and the HD-7970 is a very top quality card so I would put any extra in the video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202001

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121671

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202005 A 6gb frame buffer is what a GTX Titan has.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127736

bmanv13 · Aug 30, 2013

MEC-777 :

hafijur :

There are various reason why Logan's results differ from other test sites benchmarks. I think the fact that you jump so quickly to assuming Logan rigged the results or just plain lied is a knee-jerk reaction from your own bias for Intel and that you just can't believe those results even though they very well could be true results from those specific systems.

I don't want to get into this again, but just for the sake of the OP, I wanted to just briefly comment on a couple things so that 50mk doesn't get the wrong idea.

hajifur, you said look at metro 2033, no real difference. Ok, looking at the first chart, they're running at 1440 max settings. Nearly ALL the results were in the 30-35fps range, regardless of CPU. Of course there's no real difference here because with that game at 1440 and max settings, the 7970 must be bottle necking the system on the graphics side.

Looking further down at the same settings with 2 and 3 7970's we see the 8350 running 10+ fps faster than the 3220. Not a massive difference, but the gap between the 8350 and i7's is far less at 1-5fps on the dual crossfire setup. So you see, once you reduce the bottle necking on the graphics side, then you start to see the real difference in CPU performance.

Also, based on all the results posted on that page, it would be safe to say that that game is very demanding on graphics and not so much on the CPU and thus, it wouldn't make sense to buy a CPU that's $100+ more expensive for pretty much the exact same results.

Thank you! This guy on YouTube is respectable. This "CPU Master" is biased around Intel. I don't care who you are, but that was a flat out Intel fan-boy gibber if you ask me. AMD packs more power for the dollar and that was my point. All I thought about the OP was "he is on a budget".

50mk · Aug 30, 2013

I'm not going to be crossfireing them just one 7970 should be good for a while at least the 7970 I was looking at is this

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-11197-03-40G/dp/B009B6Y01Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377912640&sr=8-1&keywords=safire+7970

it says it's oc with boost and it can go GHz 300 bucks although anyone can see what type of warranty it has I like a life time one if possible but I think only XFX does that I think anyways

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