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Low FPS in old and modern games without a specific reason?

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August 30, 2013 7:39:22 AM

Hi,

So I got this PC that has the following specs:

-Motherboard: AsRock G41-M VS3 R2.0.
-Intel Pentium 4 650 @ 3.40 GHz with HT enabled.
-Kingston 4 GB DDR3 RAM (Single Channel, maybe my CPU doesn't support dual, or maybe the RAM stick itself is single channel).
-AMD Radeon HD 7750 GDDR5 1 GB.
-Corsair 550W PSU with 34A on v12+ rail.
-2 Hard Disks:
1st: Generic SATA 80 GB hard disk.
2nd: Toshiba SSD 160GB disk.
-Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64

The problem is that even when playing old games, I get sudden slow downs during some points.

For example, when playing BattleField Play4Free, I get Non-Smooth/Low FPS, even though I have way better system requirements than the needed, which are:

Operating system: Windows XP or Windows Vista
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1.7 GHz
RAM: 512 MB (1 GB on Windows Vista)
Video card: 256 MB, Pixel shader 2.0, DirectX 9.0c
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Hard Drive space: 2,5 GB

The CPU core temp is 55C @ 99% load.

So I am feeling it has to do with my Motherboard Memory/CPU settings, look at the spoiler to see technical SPD info:

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Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size 4096 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part number 99U5471-020.A00LF
Serial number 532B8E3A
Manufacturing date Week 51/Year 11
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-17-23 @ 457 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-20-27 @ 533 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 609 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-25-34 @ 685 MHz

DIMM # 1
SPD registers
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
00 92 10 0B 02 03 19 00 09 03 52 01 08 0C 00 3C 00
10 69 78 69 30 69 11 20 89 00 05 3C 3C 00 F0 83 81
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 11 07 01
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 01 98 05 11 51 53 2B 8E 3A 28 A0
80 39 39 55 35 34 37 31 2D 30 32 30 2E 41 30 30 4C
90 46 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 5A


I also think it may have to do with voltages? See the spoiler below:

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Hardware monitor Winbond W83627DHG
Voltage 0 1.34 Volts [0xA8] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 1 1.02 Volts [0x80] (VIN1)
Voltage 2 3.31 Volts [0xCF] (+3.3V)
Voltage 3 4.99 Volts [0xD0] (+5V)
Voltage 4 11.54 Volts [0xCF] (+12V)
Voltage 5 1.72 Volts [0xD7] (VIN5)
Voltage 6 1.86 Volts [0xE8] (VIN6)
Temperature 0 39°C (102°F) [0x27] (SYSTIN)
Temperature 1 57°C (133°F) [0x71] (CPUTIN)
Temperature 2 50°C (121°F) [0x63] (AUXTIN)
Fan 1 2411 RPM [0x46] (CPUFANIN0)


I don't actually know the problem, I tried reinstalling Windows 7 so any trojan/malware process would go away, but seems it doesn't have to do with it.

And for those low-experienced IT guys, yes, I tried turning off my AntiVirus/Firewall, and please don't interfere with the topic if you thought it was an AV problem.

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MJaoune

August 30, 2013 7:47:06 AM

Without specific reason? Well there is one, your CPU is quite weak. Pentium-4 are getting very old now. Even if you meet minimum requirement, Pentium-4 aren't really good gaming CPU since they're only single core CPU. And forget about hyper-threading, threads aren't nearly as fast as physical cores and most games don't support hyper-threading anyways so it's useless for gaming.

Also, if the CPU load is at 99%, this is a clear indication of a CPU bottleneck.

The problem is that modern OS like Windows 7 and modern anti-virus software require a lot more resources than before, so you might have other tasks running in the background while playing that are too much to handle for a Pentium-4.

Anyways, you might be getting to the point where you need a new computer. I see you have upgraded a lot of things in there, so you can probably salvage some parts for the new PC, like your SSD. It's just that your CPU is really hurting you.

Himanshu Balayan made a good suggestion if you don't want a new computer, you could upgrade your CPU for a Core 2 Quad. But even that is a CPU from 4 years ago.
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August 30, 2013 7:54:45 AM

Without specific reason? Well there is one, your CPU is quite weak. Pentium-4 are getting very old now. Even if you meet minimum requirement, Pentium-4 aren't really good gaming CPU since they're only single core CPU. And forget about hyper-threading, threads aren't nearly as fast as physical cores and most games don't support hyper-threading anyways so it's useless for gaming.

Also, if the CPU load is at 99%, this is a clear indication of a CPU bottleneck.

The problem is that modern OS like Windows 7 and modern anti-virus software require a lot more resources than before, so you might have other tasks running in the background while playing that are too much to handle for a Pentium-4.

Anyways, you might be getting to the point where you need a new computer. I see you have upgraded a lot of things in there, so you can probably salvage some parts for the new PC, like your SSD. It's just that your CPU is really hurting you.

Himanshu Balayan made a good suggestion if you don't want a new computer, you could upgrade your CPU for a Core 2 Quad. But even that is a CPU from 4 years ago.

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August 31, 2013 5:54:45 AM

I agree with u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya, upgrading from a i5 3210m to a i5 3320m is completely dumb. It will be like a 5% performance upgrade and he won't even notice any difference sitting behind the screen.

And he's totally right too that benchmarks numbers and the perception of performance in real life are two different things. Not because a component scores better in a benchmark that it means you will really be able to notice the difference in real life depending on the type of usage you make of the computer. Most benchmarks are synthetic too which are different from real world usage.
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September 1, 2013 5:27:38 AM

hafijur said:
I play really cpu intensive games so I will notice the difference. One or two games I play are at 90% cpu load at 2.9ghz so having another 7% faster cpu will be great.


Hmmm... Allright, we might not have the same definition of "huge" or "massive" improvement then... I consider 7% a very small improvement.

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