Why is my new GTX 650ti not performing to my expectations?

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The Tiger

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Hello, everybody! I'm Tiger from India. :)

I'm a fan of off-road racing games like Fuel, Pure, Dirt. Sometimes I play FPS with old themes like Call of Juarez. These games are not much demanding in my opinion.

My system is: C2D E7500 (not overclocked)
Mainboard: ASUS P5KPL AM/PS (G31 Chipset).
4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM.

Recently, my old GTS 250 went kaput and I purchased a ZOTAC GTX 650ti today, to replace it. To my utter disappointment, this card can't run FUEL properly at 1080p, 2x AA, 2x AF. I am getting only 20-25 fps, and in complex graphic areas, the game crashes to the desktop everytime. Drivers are all updated.

My old GTS 250 could run this game at 1650x1050 at 30-40 fps (AA, AF off), and now this so called powerful card can't even run it at 1080p? :(

GPU load is at maximum 99% during playing, Video Engine load is 28% max, CPU usage is averaged at 80-90%.


Is the card getting bottlenecked by the CPU or the PCIe 1.1 16x bus?
Or am I expecting too much from the card?

Please help. I'm extremely disappointed today after shelling out 10,000 INR, just to find the card can't run a 2009 game at 1080p.
 
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nukemaster

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With a newer cpu, I was able to play games like bioshock infinite(I did not turn on AA or anything like that) without much issues on a 1gigabyte gtx 650ti.

The card is at best a mid end card, So you almost have to expect that you will not be maxing out games.

I have always played games like left4dead(easy to play on most systems), Guild Wars 2, StarCraft II, ect on one of those cards(settings adjusted to match the card). The cpu was an i5 750 and the screen resolution was 1920 x 1200. Again, In some games you HAVE to adjust the settings to make it smoother.
 
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I would have thought that the PCI-E x1.1 coupled with the C2D would give poor results, The i5 with a new mobo (OFC) Would be a huge upgrade, I know of people with 2nd gen i3's and a gtx 650ti who can play bf3 on medium/high in 1080p.
 
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Thanks for your opinions. So now I'm planning to upgrade to i5 3570 (NOT K). What chipset board do you suggest? B75 or H77 (They have a price difference of 1500 INR).

I don't ever overclock and I want extreme durability of 4-5 years. Is the extra 1500 INR justified for my case if I go with the H77? Also, I do full HD Video editing a lot, with Corel VS Pro.
 
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The max and average are different things too. I would look more at average as video load goes all over.

28% video load seems high for just gaming. Are you sure it was not Memory Controller load?
 
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The Tiger

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Err..perhaps I noted it wrong. I shall check it out once again and post.

 
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Thanks a lot, lot lot! I was really confused on this. Somehow I'm wired into the belief that entry level chipsets cause the CPU, GPU and RAM to perform slower than mid-range ones. I've always analogied CPU as the brain and the chipset as spinal cord. So powerful brain + weak spinal cord = slow response. :D

Thanks for clearing this up. :) Also I want super-durability of 5 years. Till now, no board has lasted me over 3.5 years. Which brand do you suggest? Asus or Gigabyte? Asus is much costlier than Gigabyte, while Gigabyte boasts of durability features.
 
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Thanks a lot, lot lot! I was really confused on this. Somehow I'm wired into the belief that entry level chipsets cause the CPU, GPU and RAM to perform slower than mid-range ones. I've always analogied CPU as the brain and the chipset as spinal cord. So powerful brain + weak spinal cord = slow response. :D

Thanks for clearing this up. :) Also I want super-durability of 5 years. Till now, no board has lasted me over 3.5 years. Which brand do you suggest? Asus or Gigabyte? Asus is much costlier than Gigabyte, while Gigabyte boasts of durability features.
 
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I'm a little confused about this board I'm propensed to buy:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4152#ov


How can a B75 have 2 PCIe x16? 4 DIMM slots! How?

Is the bandwidth shared? Should I aim for a board that has a single PCI-e? Since I'm not SLI-ing, so my single graphics card will run at PCIe 3.0 x8 instead of x16, right?

Could you please clarify?


I like a big ATX FF board because I use a PCI sound card and I don't want the GPU heat to affect the sound card, as in Micro ATX, the GPU sits very close to the sound card and also the GPU fan sucks in very less air because of the sound card immediately below it.
 
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Thank you so much!

The two boards I'm comparing are:

http://www.flipkart.com/asus-p8b75-m-lx-motherboard/p/itmdezctxskthyvh?pid=MBDDEZ2WZH5H66ZZ&ref=aea55c66-e761-4889-aaaf-1ffbab71ef4b


and


http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4152#sp


I'm really confused about the second though. I am inclined to buy it but, my question is how can a B75 have 2 PCIe x16 slots? 4 DIMM slots! How?

Is the bandwidth shared over the PCIe? Should I aim for the ASUS board that has a single PCI-e? Since I'm not SLI-ing, so my single graphics card will run at PCIe 3.0 x8 instead of x16, right?

Could you please clarify?
 
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