System Build Help Please

Luclocke · Aug 31, 2013

I'd like to start out by apologizing if this is in the wrong thread, I'm new to overclocking, in fact this'll be my second post, all though I did read a lot on here before joining.
So I'm new to computer building, I've never built one myself before, but I've been doing a hefty amount of research and this is the results I came to.

My goal was to achieve a computer that had a long life span potential with minimal part upgrades in the future, there are also some person needs added into it.
The CPU GPU & MB are subject to change based on the information I've gathered about the haswell line being rebooted and these motherboards only being valid for a year, still unsure if this information is accurate. As well as rumors of nvidia launching a new gpu line Q1 next year. (Looked up on their wiki for 800 series release date) Still not sure on the accuracy.

So What I'd like to know, will this be cool enough with a basic overclock to 4.5 without running ACTUAL watercooling system through it?
Are all the parts sympatico and will have no problem fitting in together with the case?
Are there any parts I should look into swapping something out for.
I'd like to have every possible fan spot in the 900D case filled.

Silence isn't a problem, but I don't want it to be INSANELY loud.
A concern is the 660W being high enough for overclocking also.
I'd also like to avoid bottle necking my PC in any fashion.

Any and all answers to my questions or suggestions I've skipped over are welcome, I'm very anxious to get into building. I'm going to be purchasing these parts around black friday/cyber monday to save some money, and probably wait to purchase the gpu cpu and motherboard till i find more information, which also might impact my decision on purchasing better ram later if the cpu can handle more than 1.5v. Sorry for the mouthful but i'm trying to cover all my bases. Thanks again for any advice.

RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 2x8GB (1.5v)

Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D

CPU - Intel i7 4770k

MB - Asus Z87 Deluxe LGA 1150

GPU - Asus GeForce GTX 770

HDD - WD Black 1TB 7200Rpm

SSD - Samsung MZ-7TD120BW 120GB

Optical Drive - ASUS 24X DVD Burner

Fan Controller - BitFenix Recon Fan Controller

Card Reader - Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1

CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i

Case Fans - Cooler Master 120mm (4 Package Deal) x 2

PSU - Seasonic SS-660XP2 ATX Platinum Cert

geofelt · Aug 31, 2013

Your build could work as is, but I have a few suggestions.

1. For gaming, which I assume you are building for, the graphics card is more important than the cpu.
Few games can use more than 2-3 cores, so the extra hyperthreads of the i7-4770K do not add much compared to the i5-4670K.
I would spend the $100 difference elsewhere.
2. You buy a "K" to overclock. How high you can go is mostly determined by your luck in getting a great chip. 4.5 is a reasonable goal, but don't count on it. Your chances are perhaps 50/50. 4.0 is almost certain. For what it is worth, you can usually get a higher oc on a 4770k by disabling hyperthreading, so why pay more for it in the first place. A 4670K at stock is still a very competent cpu for gaming.
3. All in one liquid coolers will be more expensive, noisier, less reliable, and will not cool any better than a decent air cooler in a good case. About the best would be noctua nh-d14 or phanteks at $75 or so. Even a $30 cm hyper212 will be ok. And... I have heard many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
4. Do not pay much more for fast ram or fancy heat spreaders. DDR3 1600 is fine. Intel cpu's are not sensitive to ram speeds in actual usage vs. synthetic benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
5. Your case is a nice one. I suggest you see how well the stock cooling works for you before spending extra on fans that will increase noise.
6. Love seasonic as a psu. You will never recoup the extra price paid for platinum efficiency.
660w is fine. You only need 575w, but I like a bit of overprovisioning.
You can run a GTX780 at 575w too.
7. The graphics card is where you want the best for gaming. Can you use the savings and manage a GTX780?
I like the evga superclocked GTX780 with the titan blower cooler. It gets heat directly out the back of your case.
8. Do you really need a fan controller? Try without one first. Personally, I just set them at low and forget them.
9. Love the ssd. Unless you will store lots of large files such as video's, I suggest you defer on the hard drive and build using a 240gb ssd up front. You may never need a hard drive, and it is easy to add one later.

Luclocke · Aug 31, 2013

geofelt :

Your build could work as is, but I have a few suggestions.

1. For gaming, which I assume you are building for, the graphics card is more important than the cpu.
Few games can use more than 2-3 cores, so the extra hyperthreads of the i7-4770K do not add much compared to the i5-4670K.
I would spend the $100 difference elsewhere.
2. You buy a "K" to overclock. How high you can go is mostly determined by your luck in getting a great chip. 4.5 is a reasonable goal, but don't count on it. Your chances are perhaps 50/50. 4.0 is almost certain. For what it is worth, you can usually get a higher oc on a 4770k by disabling hyperthreading, so why pay more for it in the first place. A 4670K at stock is still a very competent cpu for gaming.
3. All in one liquid coolers will be more expensive, noisier, less reliable, and will not cool any better than a decent air cooler in a good case. About the best would be noctua nh-d14 or phanteks at $75 or so. Even a $30 cm hyper212 will be ok. And... I have heard many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
4. Do not pay much more for fast ram or fancy heat spreaders. DDR3 1600 is fine. Intel cpu's are not sensitive to ram speeds in actual usage vs. synthetic benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
5. Your case is a nice one. I suggest you see how well the stock cooling works for you before spending extra on fans that will increase noise.
6. Love seasonic as a psu. You will never recoup the extra price paid for platinum efficiency.
660w is fine. You only need 575w, but I like a bit of overprovisioning.
You can run a GTX780 at 575w too.
7. The graphics card is where you want the best for gaming. Can you use the savings and manage a GTX780?
I like the evga superclocked GTX780 with the titan blower cooler. It gets heat directly out the back of your case.
8. Do you really need a fan controller? Try without one first. Personally, I just set them at low and forget them.
9. Love the ssd. Unless you will store lots of large files such as video's, I suggest you defer on the hard drive and build using a 240gb ssd up front. You may never need a hard drive, and it is easy to add one later.

The cpu gpu and motherboard I won't be purchasing till end of Q1 next year because of the relaunch. I need the hd for vidoes music an pictures. The 870 upon release will be the gpu of my choice. 70 to 80 is a negligible increase for the price. As for the cooling an fans an fan monitoring. I like it asethetically an the cost isn't a problem. I haven't heard anyone have issues with h100i leaking. Ill look into it a little more. if i recieve more confirmation about ram changes an cooling changes ill make them. Thanks a ton for your advice.

vietguy357 · Aug 31, 2013

I would get the i5 4670k instead of the 4770k. You could go with a smaller case just cause the 900D is like $350 and it's is mainly used for extreme water cooling due to the amount of space inside for all those radiators. Also I would get a set of the corsair SP 120 quiet edition and then some AF 120 quiet edition for the case fans. Also you could get a fan controller if you want to be able to control your fan to be quiet when you don't need them and then turn them up when gaming or other stuff.

geofelt · Aug 31, 2013

It is a bit premature to plan on a build that is 6 months out.

As to H100 leaks:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1396191/corsair-h100-leak
From the corsair forums: http://forum.corsair.com/v2/showthread.php?t=111609
Do not be too alarmed, every product will fail. It is just that a leaking liquid cooler can take down so many other parts.
Do your due diligence and decide.

On aesthetics, that is only something YOU can decide. My bent is for function, quiet and simplicity.

Much of the fun in this hobby is the planning for a future build. Take your time, and decide what is best for you.

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