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Robby Garlitz

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Hi there, I'm going to be putting myself a nice Desktop computer together here in a month, maybe a month and a half.

I've beens pending the last couple months tweaking my list, trying to find a good balance of price and performance, and I think I've finally hit a sweet spot.

Here is a link to my public Newegg Wishlist

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=23826186

Now that you've presumably seent he list, I am interested in 3 things. Do any of you more experienced builders notice any incompatibilities I may have overlooked (things regarding dimensions, # of ports etc...)

if all is clear as far as compatibility goes, does this look like a machine that would play most games I would throw at it, at maximum graphical settings at a smooth framerate?

Last but not least, I know one can never say for sure, but does it appear to you that this build will remain valid for a couple years to come?

I appreciate any input, this will be my first build, and I'm leery about ordering $1200 worth of parts without being 100%certain they will all fit.
 
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Compatible yes, but far from the sweet spot where gaming is concerned. For gaming save money on the cpu and motherboard get a socket 1150 instead and use that extra cash on a faster video card, also 1000w is massive overkill, im a fan of overkill but thats a little much. Also the motherboard has a gigabit nic so you dont need to add one. Here's what Id build with that budget.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg/benchmarks/
Its setup to OC the cpu and has enough power to add a 2nd 770 later on.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK...
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Compatible yes, but far from the sweet spot where gaming is concerned. For gaming save money on the cpu and motherboard get a socket 1150 instead and use that extra cash on a faster video card, also 1000w is massive overkill, im a fan of overkill but thats a little much. Also the motherboard has a gigabit nic so you dont need to add one. Here's what Id build with that budget.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yyHg/benchmarks/
Its setup to OC the cpu and has enough power to add a 2nd 770 later on.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($16.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $1253.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-31 23:47 EDT-0400)
 
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Robby Garlitz

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Only reason I went with the 1kW PSU was that the Graphics card used 500Watts alone. Also: I have not in my several weeks of looking found a GPU with a clock speed that goes much higher than 1.1GHz, so I dont see how 1.08 is "slow"? Unless you mean faster in a way that I am not familiar with.
 
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Robby Garlitz

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Nevermind-- While after a bit of research I see that the i5 is more efficient for gaming ebcuase of the lack of hyperthreading,
Could that be why I find myself lagging on games that I should be able to runf airly smoothely? I currently run an Intel i3 1.3 GHz Dual Core with hyperthreading tech.. (oc'd to 1.8), a Geforce 335M 1 GB GPU, 4 GB of RAM.. and I find that I lag on games that should run flawlessly, at times.. Or would it just be the shitty low clock speed i3?

I still dont understand dropping the VRAM by 2 GB for .015 increase in GPU? I understand that 2 GB may be sufficient for most games nowadays, but looking to the future.. Sure I could run a second one with SLI, but I believe the 4GB one I had originally chosen was something like $50 more expensive.. something nominal, for such a big boost in VRAM
 
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16Gb if ram is overkill, 8Gb is more than enough. In games the 4670k is faster than the 3820 since games don't use hyperthreading and Haswell cores process more instructions per clock than Sandy bridge-e. 4Gb of vram is only good for multimonitor gaming and with a gtx 760 you'd need a dual to triple SLI setup to even utilize it. At 1080p(even 1440p with most games) the 770 will max them out. When comparing GPU's you cant just look at the core clock unless they are the same model. The 770 has more cuda cores, the 760 has 1152 and the 770 has 1536 and also has faster vram. The 760 does not use 500w it uses a max of 170w, 500w is the minimum suggested power supply for the whole system not just the video card.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications
 
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Robby Garlitz

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As far as the 500W GPU goes.. I was simply going by the power consumption listed on that products newegg description. Check my link and look at the details.. It states the thing uses 500W (And takes up two PCI Express 3.0 slots, If I interpreted the details correctly)

And yes, 4 GB if vram might only be good for multimonitor today, but what about 2 years from now? 3? 4?? I dont want to have to sink another six hundred dollars every 2 years for a better GPU/More RAM and/or a newer CPU.. this would be why I went out of myway to get more RAM than I needed.. I know that eventually anything I may build will be obsolete, but if, while I have the means, I can build something with a little more poewr than I'll need.. why not, if it means the setup would be viable for longer?
 
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Robby Garlitz

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Ah, I see what you mean on the GeForce site, but I swear the newegg details weren't so concise.

They simply state "System power supply requirement: 500W", not that it is reccomended I have at LEAST 500W.. I misinterpreted a poorly worded description. Seems to me if someone says "this object has a poer supply requirement of X" it is not illogical to assume that X is required just for that object.. am I wrong in this?
 
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If you are worried about it you can get the 4Gb Gigabyte GTX 770 for $450.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn770oc4gd
 
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Your not the only one to get confused by this, see similar questions atleast once or twice a day on this site.
 
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Robby Garlitz

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Well, I thank you for all of your input. Sorry if I seemed skeptical or outright standoffish from the beginning, judging by the most basic specs, it seemed like I had built myself the best damn computer, but I know nothing of cuda cores and hyperthreading :p (Well, I know what logical cores are, and that games do not utilize them-- I was NOT aware that they had a negative impact on games that didn't use them)
 
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Thank you ermand. There is actually an instant savings of $70 on the PSU, putting it at $129. And I realize now, thanks to Bignastyid, that 1000W is not necessary. The description of the Graphics Card is poorly worded on Newegg, simply stating that the Graphics card requires at minimum 500W, which caused me to believe that the card itself would draw 500 watts of power, so at that rate I decided.. might as well just go up to 1k.
 
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