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September 1, 2013 1:02:18 AM

Hello everyone, I was wondering if this laptop would be good for gaming. It is a Toshiba Satellite Windows 8 64-bit with a 640 GB hard drive, AMD Radeon HD 7310 integrated graphics card, and an AMD Dual-Core E1-1200 Accelerated Processor with 1.4 ghz. My old desktop was an Emachines 1352-23e win7 with an AMD Athlon X2 255 / 3.1 GHz processor, 500 GB hard drive, and an NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE graphics chip. I would honestly rather have a relative or technician build a gaming desktop from custom parts. However, we are on a tight budget of only $400. Does anyone know of any decent websites that sell cheaper parts? I saw a couple of products that caught my eye. I know that the 2nd number of Radeon cards tell the quality (so the 7310 is a budget one). I am just wondering if it will run these games well in 1366 X 768 resolution (TF2, HL2, CSS, DODS, L4D1, L4D2, GMOD, Killing Floor, SFM, Red Orchestra 1, Red Orchestra 2, Amnesia Dark Descent, Amnesia Machine for Pigs, Zeno Clash 1, Zeno Clash 2, HTF false alarm, Sonic Adventure, and CSGO). My desktop runs gmod and killing floor very well, but TF2 and other source games run like rubbish. As said before, I really only care about the new computer running the games listed. I don’t play COD or any of the extremely new stuff on steam. If I had an ideal graphics card, and a lower ghz… how would it affect gaming? Are full-size desktops the only things that mod well, or would that laptop be moddable for the graphics card and processor? Can someone recommend me an affordable dedicated graphics card? Also, would the case in the link below fit all needed parts and a dedicated graphics card? I am a 16 year-old sophomore who will be getting a new office in my bedroom for drawing, homework, fun, and Steam gaming. I have no job, no car, and my mom is buying this for a christmas present.

The laptop I was interested in: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/C850/...

My desktop: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/emachines-el1352-23e-a...

Some parts that caught my attention:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 1, 2013 7:07:35 AM

Firstly , laptops aren't meant for gaming. You should buy Nother cheap laptop for work , and build your own desktop for home and gaming. But I wold like to clarify , do you mean $400 for the entire desktop system , including the monitor and keyboard etc ?
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September 1, 2013 11:28:37 AM

IRONBATMAN said:
Firstly , laptops aren't meant for gaming. You should buy Nother cheap laptop for work , and build your own desktop for home and gaming. But I wold like to clarify , do you mean $400 for the entire desktop system , including the monitor and keyboard etc ?


Whoops, I should have said my bedroom office. Since I am a sophomore who needs to finish high school still. I don't really think it matters if you include the monitor and keyboard in the price range. I will just use the keyboard that comes with it until I replace it with a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate. I also think the monitor I need will be around $80. Will the AMD Radeon HD 7310 be good enough if I have no other solution?
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September 2, 2013 8:22:53 AM

-_- HD 7310 ? That's a lousy card. Integrated cards are always not as good as dedicated Graphics cards. Check out the HD 6670 , then if you want something better , get the HD 7750. I personally like AMD's Graphics Card but not their Processors. The HD 6670 could cost 70 usd. But take note that there's a DDR3 and GDDR5 version. Get the GDDR5 version , it's better.

It's gonna be quite dificult squeezing in quality components I to your tight budget so I suggest you pay a little more so that your PC would last long.

Ever heard of FPS ? It's how fast your Graphics Card can fill your screen with images. So if you have high FPS , you can play smoothly without lag. TF2 is a multiplayer game , where F2Ps spam bullets everywhere so the screen can go really messy so if you have a bad Grpahics card , it wouldn't be able to show ou what's on the screen fast enough and so you'd lag.

I recommend you buy a micro-ATX case. PC cases / chassis have different sizes. The most common is the ATX case. It's the ones you usually see which are not too big. The micro-ATX case is obviously smaller , so you could fit it I'm more places. If you want a case which is short but long in depth , get a mini-ITX case.

Sorry for answering your questions randomly , what you wrote is quite hard to read and their not in paragraphs so I had to scroll up and down , and whatever question catches my eye , I'll just take it.
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September 2, 2013 8:27:43 AM

Check out the HD 6570 too.
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September 2, 2013 9:26:20 AM

Here are some parts I reccomend for your budget. You can choose the other parts yourself

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case , micro ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The other parts you'll need
-Hard Drive
-Monitor
-Network Adaptor , to connect to your modem
-PSU , get 430++ watts
-Keyboard
-Mouse

Parts you don't really need
-CPU cooler , the Processor comes with a stock one and you don't play demanding games , so I don't think your PC would overheat , it should be fine

-speakers, if your monitor comes with speakers , then you obviously don't need one

-sound card, the motherboard already comes with a stock one

-case fans , the case itself already comes with pre-installed case fans and ou don't play very demanding games , so yeah


Most importantly ,
When building the PC , always rub your hands onto some metal , or the back of the case , so to ensure that the static charges shouldn't affect your components. You may barely feel the charge , but it could really damage your processor.




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September 2, 2013 3:22:26 PM

IRONBATMAN said:
Here are some parts I reccomend for your budget. You can choose the other parts yourself

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case , micro ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The other parts you'll need
-Hard Drive
-Monitor
-Network Adaptor , to connect to your modem
-PSU , get 430++ watts
-Keyboard
-Mouse

Parts you don't really need
-CPU cooler , the Processor comes with a stock one and you don't play demanding games , so I don't think your PC would overheat , it should be fine

-speakers, if your monitor comes with speakers , then you obviously don't need one

-sound card, the motherboard already comes with a stock one

-case fans , the case itself already comes with pre-installed case fans and ou don't play very demanding games , so yeah


Most importantly ,
When building the PC , always rub your hands onto some metal , or the back of the case , so to ensure that the static charges shouldn't affect your components. You may barely feel the charge , but it could really damage your processor.






Thank you so much for the suggestion, but I found something much better. I will get some type of Asus desktop, there is a store in Eau Claire that I could visit. Otherwise, i'm sure mom would dole out a hundred or more for the new computer. Some of their models already have a great dedicated graphics card and a processor over 3 ghz. I am not sure if I will ever have to replace the graphics card, but I still need help on that. One model I like has a AMD Radeon HD 8350 1 GB dedicated graphics card. Do you know what the front number of AMD Radeon cards mean? Are the higher numbers superior to the lower ones (like is the 8000 series superior to the 7000 series?) I'd rather have a nice gaming desktop instead of a shitty PS4, Xbox 3, or Will U-suck. Console FPS multiplayer sucks arse. I also hate COD, it's boring. I just like platformers on consoles, I have so many classic consoles.
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September 2, 2013 5:36:39 PM

The first number on AMD cards denotes the series, the higher the number, the newer it is generally. However, the 8000 series cards are just rebadged 7000 series cards sold to OEMs, and the 8350 is the slowest card you can get in that series, it's actually slower than many integrated graphics solutions now. For gaming with an AMD card, the 7750 is probably the lowest you'd want to go, anything lower than that is going to have trouble with more demanding games. New consoles are coming out soon, and that is going to raise the minimum requirements, so you may want to aim higher eg. a Radeon HD 7850, which would put you about on par with the PS4's GPU.
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September 2, 2013 5:46:43 PM

Supernova1138 said:
The first number on AMD cards denotes the series, the higher the number, the newer it is generally. However, the 8000 series cards are just rebadged 7000 series cards sold to OEMs, and the 8350 is the slowest card you can get in that series, it's actually slower than many integrated graphics solutions now. For gaming with an AMD card, the 7750 is probably the lowest you'd want to go, anything lower than that is going to have trouble with more demanding games. New consoles are coming out soon, and that is going to raise the minimum requirements, so you may want to aim higher eg. a Radeon HD 7850, which would put you about on par with the PS4's GPU.


You're right. I found out how horrible that graphics card was at gpuboss. I hate these stupid bastards who design the models. No one sells a retail computer that already has a good gpu or cpu. I hate hate hate it! They just make a POS graphics card and make it sound good. Anyways, what nvidia dedicated graphics card would you reccommend? (In the $100-$200 range). I think Nvidia sounds better. Also, how much better is a quad-core processor than a dual-core processor for gaming?
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September 2, 2013 5:54:04 PM

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Supernova1138 said:
The first number on AMD cards denotes the series, the higher the number, the newer it is generally. However, the 8000 series cards are just rebadged 7000 series cards sold to OEMs, and the 8350 is the slowest card you can get in that series, it's actually slower than many integrated graphics solutions now. For gaming with an AMD card, the 7750 is probably the lowest you'd want to go, anything lower than that is going to have trouble with more demanding games. New consoles are coming out soon, and that is going to raise the minimum requirements, so you may want to aim higher eg. a Radeon HD 7850, which would put you about on par with the PS4's GPU.


You're right. I found out how horrible that graphics card was at gpuboss. I hate these stupid bastards who design the models. No one sells a retail computer that already has a good gpu or cpu. I hate hate hate it! They just make a POS graphics card and make it sound good. Anyways, what nvidia dedicated graphics card would you reccommend? (In the $100-$200 range). I think Nvidia sounds better. Also, how much better is a quad-core processor than a dual-core processor for gaming?


The GTX 660 is the best Nvidia card in your price range, it performs a bit faster than the Radeon HD 7850, I think it's still priced around $200. It is recommended that you get a quad core CPU. While most games will only use two cores, there are some games out now that do not perform well on dual core CPUs eg. Crysis 3, and with the new console generation we are likely to see more heavily threaded games.
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September 2, 2013 6:07:00 PM

Supernova1138 said:
KillingFloorPlayer said:
Supernova1138 said:
The first number on AMD cards denotes the series, the higher the number, the newer it is generally. However, the 8000 series cards are just rebadged 7000 series cards sold to OEMs, and the 8350 is the slowest card you can get in that series, it's actually slower than many integrated graphics solutions now. For gaming with an AMD card, the 7750 is probably the lowest you'd want to go, anything lower than that is going to have trouble with more demanding games. New consoles are coming out soon, and that is going to raise the minimum requirements, so you may want to aim higher eg. a Radeon HD 7850, which would put you about on par with the PS4's GPU.


You're right. I found out how horrible that graphics card was at gpuboss. I hate these stupid bastards who design the models. No one sells a retail computer that already has a good gpu or cpu. I hate hate hate it! They just make a POS graphics card and make it sound good. Anyways, what nvidia dedicated graphics card would you reccommend? (In the $100-$200 range). I think Nvidia sounds better. Also, how much better is a quad-core processor than a dual-core processor for gaming?


The GTX 660 is the best Nvidia card in your price range, it performs a bit faster than the Radeon HD 7850, I think it's still priced around $200. It is recommended that you get a quad core CPU. While most games will only use two cores, there are some games out now that do not perform well on dual core CPUs eg. Crysis 3, and with the new console generation we are likely to see more heavily threaded games.


I should get a quad core processor then. What mhz should it have? Also, I am interested in the Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 2 GB. These are the games that I want the computer to run (TF2, HL2, CSS, DODS, L4D1, L4D2, GMOD, Killing Floor, SFM, Red Orchestra 1, Red Orchestra 2, Amnesia Dark Descent, Amnesia Machine for Pigs, Zeno Clash 1, Zeno Clash 2, HTF false alarm, Sonic Adventure, and CSGO). You probably already read this, but I am just wondering if it will run these with little to no lag. Can you reccommend me a cheaper quad-core that is at least 3 ghz?
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September 2, 2013 6:23:57 PM

How much money are you willing to spend on a CPU? If you have a low budget, an AMD CPU might be a better choice, the FX 6300 is an inexpensive CPU with 6 cores, though it's per core performance isn't as good as Intel's offerings. Unfortunately with Intel, their quad core CPUs start at around $170, so if you don't have a lot of money to throw at this build, you might not want to go with them. I would recommend going higher than the plain GTX 650 if at all possible, the 650Ti is not that much more expensive while offering a good deal more performance. I would say put more money into your graphics card, that will get you more performance for your games, none of the titles you have listed are really CPU heavy, and your graphics card will be what determines the performance you will get, though you may not be able to do that if you only have a budget of $400. You may want to look at saving up some more money before building.
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September 2, 2013 8:29:54 PM

Supernova1138 said:
How much money are you willing to spend on a CPU? If you have a low budget, an AMD CPU might be a better choice, the FX 6300 is an inexpensive CPU with 6 cores, though it's per core performance isn't as good as Intel's offerings. Unfortunately with Intel, their quad core CPUs start at around $170, so if you don't have a lot of money to throw at this build, you might not want to go with them. I would recommend going higher than the plain GTX 650 if at all possible, the 650Ti is not that much more expensive while offering a good deal more performance. I would say put more money into your graphics card, that will get you more performance for your games, none of the titles you have listed are really CPU heavy, and your graphics card will be what determines the performance you will get, though you may not be able to do that if you only have a budget of $400. You may want to look at saving up some more money before building.


I have it all figured out now. I am getting a Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost Superclocked with an Asus Essentio M11BB-B05 that has a AMD A8-Series 3.2 ghz dual-core processor, 1 TB hard drive, 12 GB RAM, and a graphics slot. Mom will let me get the expensive one. Thank you so much for your help!
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September 3, 2013 1:10:09 AM

Check out the GTX 550 ti
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September 4, 2013 9:26:22 PM

IRONBATMAN said:
Check out the GTX 550 ti

I'm getting this desktop. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Essentio+Desktop+-+1... Do you know anything about the power supply's watts? Also, do you think my cpu could handle the new gpu? I will be getting a Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost. These are the 650 Ti Boost models I found. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+650+Ti+B... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/GeForce+GTX+650+Ti+Boost+1G... What case size do you think I will need to fit this graphics card? Is 14.2 inches Height, 6.7 inches WIdth, and 15.9 inches Depth case going to fit a graphics card with a 4.4 inches height and a 9.5 depth? What is the depth of a computer anyways? Do you think a AMD A8-Series 3.2 ghz processor will run nicely with the gtx 650 ti boost graphics card?
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September 5, 2013 4:58:02 PM

Sorry for the late response. The games you stated aren't very demanding games so if you wanna save more then why get such a GPU ?
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September 5, 2013 8:45:31 PM

IRONBATMAN said:
Sorry for the late response. The games you stated aren't very demanding games so if you wanna save more then why get such a GPU ?

I'm getting it, because of the high 74 FPS. Then I will never lag unless the server was horrible. It's a great card and it will run everything I want it to. The A8 processor is also a Quad-core. These will be the Desktop's specs. You can add me on steam if you want, my username is Master-Bates with a creepy sloth avatar.

Asus Essentio M11BB-B05 Desktop

Height: 14.2 inches
Width: 6.7 inches
Depth: 15.9 inches
Processor/CPU: AMD A8 series 5500 Quad-core
Processor GHZ: 3.2 GHZ
RAM: 12 GB
Hard Drive: Sata 3 1 TB
Graphics card/GPU: AMD Radeon HD 8350
Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost
Available Expansion Bays: External: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5")
Available Expansion Slots: 2 PCI, 1 PCI Express x16
USB 2.0 Ports: 2 USB 3.0 (rear); 6 USB 2.0 (2 front, 4 rear)
OS: Windows 8
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September 5, 2013 8:47:30 PM

Supernova1138 said:
How much money are you willing to spend on a CPU? If you have a low budget, an AMD CPU might be a better choice, the FX 6300 is an inexpensive CPU with 6 cores, though it's per core performance isn't as good as Intel's offerings. Unfortunately with Intel, their quad core CPUs start at around $170, so if you don't have a lot of money to throw at this build, you might not want to go with them. I would recommend going higher than the plain GTX 650 if at all possible, the 650Ti is not that much more expensive while offering a good deal more performance. I would say put more money into your graphics card, that will get you more performance for your games, none of the titles you have listed are really CPU heavy, and your graphics card will be what determines the performance you will get, though you may not be able to do that if you only have a budget of $400. You may want to look at saving up some more money before building.

I am getting this desktop.

Asus Essentio M11BB-B05 Desktop

Height: 14.2 inches
Width: 6.7 inches
Depth: 15.9 inches
Processor/CPU: AMD A8 series 5500 Quad-core
Processor GHZ: 3.2 GHZ
RAM: 12 GB
Hard Drive: Sata 3 1 TB
Graphics card/GPU: AMD Radeon HD 8350
Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 Ti Boost
Available Expansion Bays: External: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5")
Available Expansion Slots: 2 PCI, 1 PCI Express x16
USB 2.0 Ports: 2 USB 3.0 (rear); 6 USB 2.0 (2 front, 4 rear)
OS: Windows 8

You can add me on steam if you want, my username is Master-Bates with a creepy sloth avatar. lol
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September 6, 2013 8:30:23 AM

So , have you found your answer ?
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September 6, 2013 8:05:23 PM

IRONBATMAN said:
So , have you found your answer ?

Yes, I have.
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December 26, 2013 5:28:08 AM

I have a toshiba satellite p850 laptop and its great for gaming
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