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Can this PC handle games like BF3/BF4 on medium GFX?

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September 1, 2013 6:14:23 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yxFf
I'm building a PC but I'm on a budget.
I'm switching from console to PC and don't have much money because I'm 16 [ Part time job :(  ]
Any help and advice would be appreciated.
I need this to run medium gfx on all or most games like Planetside 2, CS:GO, BF4, etc.
Also I have very little knowledge of PC's and this will be my first time on PC and building one.
Wish me luck?
September 1, 2013 6:23:14 PM

i5 3570k CPU, GA Z77X-UD3H motherboard, GTX 760, 500GB HDD, any Mid tower case around 60$, CX600W PSU, keyboard and Mouse you pick
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September 1, 2013 6:28:23 PM

i5 3570K 219.99$ Amazon.com

GA Z77X UD3H 144.99$ Amazon.com

GTX 760 With ACX cooling 249.99 Amazon.com

WD caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM 55.00$ Amazon.com

Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid tower case 59.99$ Amazon.com

CX600 Watt PSU 66.24$ Amazon.com

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September 1, 2013 6:29:16 PM

RAM anything that is 1.5V
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September 1, 2013 6:30:46 PM

796.24$ in all but not including RAM
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September 1, 2013 6:33:43 PM

MyRz said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yxFf
I'm building a PC but I'm on a budget.
I'm switching from console to PC and don't have much money because I'm 16 [ Part time job :(  ]
Any help and advice would be appreciated.
I need this to run medium gfx on all or most games like Planetside 2, CS:GO, BF4, etc.
Also I have very little knowledge of PC's and this will be my first time on PC and building one.
Wish me luck?


Use the build i made, the AMD FX 6300 will bottleneck a 7950. If you want a computer that you just want to run medium go with your build. if you want a computer that wont bottleneck and a faster CPU without bottlenecking a SLI config, go with my build. its more $$$$ but it will last you.
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September 1, 2013 6:34:47 PM

Upgrader011 said:
796.24$ in all but not including RAM


So is my build bad? Am I missing any parts? And is yours better, if so by how much?
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September 1, 2013 7:18:14 PM

The cheap MSI AMD motherboards are known for VRM problems: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ag...
Otherwise, your original build is not bad. A FX-6300 will not "bottleneck" a HD7950 except perhaps in the most demanding CPU-bound games. Most games are GPU-bound, so it shouldn't be a problem. Certainly, if budget allows, an i5 is a stronger CPU, but if the budget does not allow it, the FX-6300 I believe is a better choice than an i3, as more games are becoming better-threaded.
Something you may wish to consider is dropping the graphics card back to a HD7870 or GTX660. Either of those will play most games on "High" settings, but might leave you enough money for the i5; that will position you better for future games. A graphics card upgrade later would not be difficult.
If you choose a Corsair CX, make sure (as you apparently did) to select a modular one, such as the CX-500M. All of them were made by CWT for Corsair, but only the modular ones use all-Japanese caps. They are a lot more resistant to heat and won't degrade much if at all under conditions that would degrade and kill the inferior Samxon capacitors the non-modular ones use.
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September 1, 2013 7:20:22 PM

Another thing... The AMD CPUs in particular need to be overclocked to bring out their potential. For that, you'll need an aftermarket cooler. I use and recommend the Xigmatek Gaia, which is superior to the more-often parroted Hyper212 EVO:
http://www.techreaction.net/2011/07/07/review-xigmatek-...
http://www.techreaction.net/2011/11/27/review-cooler-ma...

Unlike the Hyper212 EVO (ignore the URL; it IS the EVO they tested), the Gaia never throttled, although it wasn't always the coolest depending on the fan used. Both got awards, but if you factor in the price, the Gaia wins hands down.
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September 1, 2013 7:41:26 PM

Upgrader011 said:
i5 3570K 219.99$ Amazon.com

GA Z77X UD3H 144.99$ Amazon.com

GTX 760 With ACX cooling 249.99 Amazon.com

WD caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM 55.00$ Amazon.com

Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid tower case 59.99$ Amazon.com

CX600 Watt PSU 66.24$ Amazon.com



Onus said:
The cheap MSI AMD motherboards are known for VRM problems: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ag...
Otherwise, your original build is not bad. A FX-6300 will not "bottleneck" a HD7950 except perhaps in the most demanding CPU-bound games. Most games are GPU-bound, so it shouldn't be a problem. Certainly, if budget allows, an i5 is a stronger CPU, but if the budget does not allow it, the FX-6300 I believe is a better choice than an i3, as more games are becoming better-threaded.
Something you may wish to consider is dropping the graphics card back to a HD7870 or GTX660. Either of those will play most games on "High" settings, but might leave you enough money for the i5; that will position you better for future games. A graphics card upgrade later would not be difficult.
If you choose a Corsair CX, make sure (as you apparently did) to select a modular one, such as the CX-500M. All of them were made by CWT for Corsair, but only the modular ones use all-Japanese caps. They are a lot more resistant to heat and won't degrade much if at all under conditions that would degrade and kill the inferior Samxon capacitors the non-modular ones use.


660 or 660 Ti ?
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September 1, 2013 7:45:24 PM

Either. You specified "Medium" graphics, and either one should be able to play on mostly "High."
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September 1, 2013 7:50:48 PM

Onus said:
Either. You specified "Medium" graphics, and either one should be able to play on mostly "High."


Thanks here's an updated version http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yUTC
I'll upgrade the mobo some day but I can't afford an expensive one.
I'm trying to keep the build under $800
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September 1, 2013 8:06:14 PM

Don't get that cheap MSI motherboard! I don't normally care for Biostar, but they've got a couple of inexpensive models that are on the spreadsheet I linked, NOT known for problems. Get one of those.
Also, the FX-8320 can reach the same clocks as the FX-8350, and will save some money. Put that towards the cooler. The Gaia is $5-$10 cheaper than the inferior Hyper212 EVO.
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September 1, 2013 8:25:37 PM

Onus said:
Don't get that cheap MSI motherboard! I don't normally care for Biostar, but they've got a couple of inexpensive models that are on the spreadsheet I linked, NOT known for problems. Get one of those.
Also, the FX-8320 can reach the same clocks as the FX-8350, and will save some money. Put that towards the cooler. The Gaia is $5-$10 cheaper than the inferior Hyper212 EVO.

Do you approve of this mobo. Can't find the one or talking about lol
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September 2, 2013 12:49:00 PM

MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
796.24$ in all but not including RAM


So is my build bad? Am I missing any parts? And is yours better, if so by how much?


the main problem was the processor. the AMD 6300 is not very good, but a i5 3570K is excellent. Also now youre getting a AMD 8350, which is about the same as a i5 3570K or even better
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September 2, 2013 1:17:07 PM

Upgrader011 said:
MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
796.24$ in all but not including RAM


So is my build bad? Am I missing any parts? And is yours better, if so by how much?


the main problem was the processor. the AMD 6300 is not very good, but a i5 3570K is excellent. Also now youre getting a AMD 8350, which is about the same as a i5 3570K or even better


Thanks to both of you, you guys really helped.
This is my final build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yXDG
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September 2, 2013 1:22:16 PM

MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
796.24$ in all but not including RAM


So is my build bad? Am I missing any parts? And is yours better, if so by how much?


the main problem was the processor. the AMD 6300 is not very good, but a i5 3570K is excellent. Also now youre getting a AMD 8350, which is about the same as a i5 3570K or even better


Thanks to both of you, you guys really helped.
This is my final build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yXDG


no problem. sketchy MB, but the build looks great. btw, with the 660ti you can SLI two of them and they perform like a TITAN
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September 2, 2013 1:24:24 PM

Upgrader011 said:
MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
MyRz said:
Upgrader011 said:
796.24$ in all but not including RAM


So is my build bad? Am I missing any parts? And is yours better, if so by how much?


the main problem was the processor. the AMD 6300 is not very good, but a i5 3570K is excellent. Also now youre getting a AMD 8350, which is about the same as a i5 3570K or even better


Thanks to both of you, you guys really helped.
This is my final build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yXDG


no problem. sketchy MB, but the build looks great. btw, with the 660ti you can SLI two of them and they perform like a TITAN


Lol I know the mobo sucks but I'll upgrade it when I get more money. Thanks
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September 2, 2013 4:46:13 PM

I might have given up one of the extra fans to make up the price difference to get a 2x4GB RAM kit.
As it is, another 8GB stick should be your first upgrade, so you can run in dual channel mode.
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