My mouse has died. Suggestions for new mice to pair with my mousepad?

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My mouse has died :/ and I'm looking to get a new one and perhaps take advantage of a few labor day weekend sales.

My mouse history:
1) Logitech G9x - I loved the adjustable weights, adjustable grip but overall the mouse is too small for me. The newer (Logitech gamer software) firmware is quite nice, although it still needs some work. It is far better than the firmware the mouse originally came with. I think the build quality of this mouse is excellent.
2) Steelseries Sensei - The mouse I was using until it died just now. I have some mixed feelings about this mouse. I really enjoy some aspects of this mouse but the mouse feels very cheap and has no adjustable weights. The firmware (steelseries engine) is absolutely terrible.


Mousepad
Roccat Alumic Mousepad

Sensitivity
My sensitivity is on the medium to high side. I generally have very little mouse movement. Most of my friends who come over are not able to use my mouse (the cursor will fly off the screen for them).

Grip Style
I prefer the palm style, however since I've used the g9x (claw style mouse) extensively I'm also able to use the claw style.

Budget:
No set budget but if the mouse is over $100 I would like the mouse to be worth it - what I mean is if we were to talk about keyboards it would be foolish to spend over $100 for a dome keyboard but perfectly reasonable for a good quality mechanical keyboard. I don't know if mice have this sort of distinction but this is along the lines of what I'm talking about.

Mouse uses:
Gaming: FPS games (Counterstrike, Battlefield, Natural Selection 2) + RTS (starcraft 2) + Moba games (Dota 2)
General PC work

I think I'm looking for a mouse on the slightly larger side. Alot of "gaming" mouses tend to be quite small.
I would also like a mouse that has an easy to use driver and preferably on-board settings (so I can use my mouse across multiple PCs) that won't conflict with windows settings.

Thanks alot for you help and suggestions!
 
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Probably the RAT 7 if you can handle the way the thing looks.
The magazine PC Gamer gave that mouse 98%, the highest they ever awarded to a piece of hardware.

I currently don't have one, but I'm going to get one(in flat black) and see what all the hype is about. As it's suppose to be just awesome.
 
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I saw this mouse a few times at fry's.
Now that I actually bothered to look it up I'm actually very tempted to get this.
One thing that is bugging me is I can't find the mouse dimensions online (I know that the mouse is adjustable) but I'm wondering what the max length of the mouse is.

I also read that many people seem to have issues with the RAT's sensor. My previous mouse just died due to sensor issues.

Also do you know what the difference is between the rat 7 infection http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7infection.htm and the normal rat 7?
 
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The original RAT 7 was black and had a 5600 dpi sensor.

It was a success, obviously. And spawned numerous new versions:
-all kinds of colors now (with names to distinguish, like the "infection" version u linked to)
-a MMO version(with buttons all over the place)
-the RAT 9(wireless)
-and the cheaper RAT 5 and even cheaper(plastic) RAT 3.

The RAT 7 is also big(and can adjust even longer), so I thought the RAT 5 was a bit smaller to make ppl with smaller hands happy. But I can't find any literature that says that.

But the 7 is the one to get and the new 6400 dpi sensor would be a bonus. But maybe there was a sensor issue and Mad Catz made a change. I'd say the quality of the mouse is NOT cheap, but if ppl say they had problems... hopefully they got a warranty repair or replacement. It is a pricey mouse.
 
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the main problem with the rat style mice is that they are fragile. i've seen multiple cases of the mouse breaking due to its adjustable nature.

i've also heard of some sensor issues but really havent looked much further into that.

edit: i would also take products rated in pc gamer with a huge grain of salt. at times i read through pc magazines which include cpu, pc gamer and others and am often appalled by what is recommended as a good product to buy. its as if they didnt read or care to mention all the bad points about a particular product. just saying that you should do your own research on a product listed instead of just going by a 98% on pcmag (and not tying this comment to anything about the mouse, just saying dont trust a magazine 100% in general)

be forewarned!

as far as my own recommendation... its hard to beat the old style deathadder (the one which glows blue or the one which is solid black without a led) as it is a easy to use comfortable large mouse for palm grippers. i would not go with the new deathadder (2013 ver which glows green) as i think the new razer synapse 2.0 is a joke (its buggy and wants you to make an account with them) but the older versions use normal drivers.

its what i personally use (the blue ver).

just a thought.
 
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Ya, I was going to mention reviews. Especially online, you can find a good or bad review for anything. But any review I've read in print has been good, seem more honest.

Even Tom's comes to mind. Pre GTX Titan... it might score 7107, in 3Dmark11 X !!!
And what did it actually score? High 4000's
lol, even before release 7107 didn't make sense, can't be done with 28nm tech
Anyway...
 
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in cpu magazine i have seen a recommendation for a brand (they even said it was very reliable) when in truth it was a crappy brand which had extraordinarily high failure rates. this is why user reviews mixed with professional reviews are best to get a good average to go by.
 
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I'm always skeptical about online reviews and I always prefer hearing about the product from people who've actually used it for a while.
It's very strange but people who write reviews - for the sake of writing reviews - tend to miss alot of obvious things.
The first time I bought a computer case, I read a few reviews and I thought I would be fine. After I bought a few more HDs I realized that cable management wasn't that great (case drive weren't orthogonal and could not be easily removed) , the mobo's back plate cutout was too small and other things that you would only realize after using the computer case and this was a large tower - these kind of things should have been picked up on.

When I was reading reviews about the steelseries sensei, many reviewers neglected to mention how terrible steelseries engine was. That thing was incredibly hard to install (at the time) and incredibly slow and unresponsive. The Onboard profile system is not as intuitive as I was lead to believe.

I'm not saying I feel mislead by reviewers I just don't think they use the products as extensively as I would like and reviewers don't hold products to the standards which the products should be judged by. The first large PC tower I had would've worked well if I had bought all my HDs, optical drives and etc and assembled them together all at once in the beginning. I didn't do that and for a large PC tower case I believe it's reasonable to expect somebody to constantly open the tower and add in new peripherals. That was a major snag that the reviewers missed.
For my sensei, I think the reviewers overestimated the onboard profile feature. The transition of moving the mouse from one pc to another is not as seamless as you'd imagine. You can change the name of your profiles in the sensei engine but you can't change the profile names on the mouse. You can't even tweak the profiles on the mouse without dragging the on board profile back to your engine, modifying the settings from the engine and then replacing the old on board profile with the new profile by dragging it over. This isn't really a big issue, until you take your mouse out and are forced to make some on the fly adjustments (via the onboard mouse screen) without the engine program. Do that a few times and you'll be very confused.

So I've gotten a bit out of topic.
I just wanted to ask if some people with the Rat 7 would weigh in.
What do you think about the device's features?
A friend of mine who owned the Rat 7 told me that it had the worst computer driver software he'd ever seen.
 
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seeing as how i've never used one i can only say what i've heard by proxy and what i thought when i saw it in the store.

i've heard about breakage issues right here on this forum and if i remember there was another one about the sensor. i dont think i've heard anything on the driver software though.

on my touch and feel trip though microcenter i saw this mouse and it did not look too comfortable to use (at least for me) and it seemed to be very fragile.

hopefully some others who actually bought the mouse and took it home can comment further!
 
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Went to fry's today. Had a blast tapping on mechanical keyboards and clicking on several mouses. Unfortunately the rat 7 wasn't on display. What a shame - I would've really loved to hold that mouse to see how comfortable it is.
 
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