3930K or 4770K for 3 Way SLI GTX 780?

Sujeto_1 · Sep 1, 2013

Hi tom's hardware readers, i'm new at this forum, i'm about to build my new gaming pc, i mostly wish to Max out Metro 2033 and Crysis 3 on 2560X1440 Monitor. My plan is to get TWO GTX 780 this year, then add a third one at september next year. I was wondering if i can match a 4770K with this Rig OR if im forced (want or not) to buy 3930K to not bottleneck that 3 Way Sli.

ur6beersaway · Sep 1, 2013

I would go 3930 as haswell has NO full 16x16 dual slot motherboards. 2011 socket=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131817

cuecuemore · Sep 1, 2013

You're not going to be able to get 16 lanes per card on LGA 2011 either, only 8, but that's just fine. This board offers two 16 lane slots simultaneously or several 8x:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130689

ur6beersaway · Sep 1, 2013

cuecuemore :

Nuts

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

cuecuemore :

Actually this motherboard is one of my favorites in Style black yellow theme, but i'm very concerned about the Bottleneck scenario with this 3 way Sli. I wound't like to waste my money, i just have one chance to pull the trigger.

Tradesman1 · Sep 2, 2013

I'd suggest the Rampage IV Extreme, among best on the GPUs, best for handling large amounts and higher freq DRAM, and a great OCer

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

Tradesman1 :

What do you think about this one

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-Extended-Motherboard-GA-X79S-UP5-WIFI/dp/B0094ROHYK/ref=sr_1_8?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1378094328&sr=1-8&keywords=x79

It's cheaper and has wifi blutooth and also accept 3 Way Sli i think 8x 8x 8x .

Tradesman1 · Sep 2, 2013

Only worked on 1 and it's not a bad mobo, if you get a good one, have seen heard of problems folks have encountered, Know it has trouble with higher freq DRAM in 64GB, 1866 is generally the max. As for 3 way SLI @ x8, the Z87 Extreme can do 8-16-8 in Tri cost about a $100 more than the GB you mention, but would save a couple $100 from the 3930K to the 4770K

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

Tradesman1 :

Thank you Tradesman, but what do you really think, 4770K would be an absolute Bottleneck for 3 Way Sli GTX 780? I would be more than happy goin for Asus or MSI in Z87, but as i said im afraid from goin wrong way with 4770K for bottleneck risk

Tradesman1 · Sep 2, 2013

Don't think you will no....How soon are you wanting to go on this (besides a few hours ago

)....I ask because the new K models for the 2011 socket are expected any time now (the 49xx models)

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

Tradesman1 :

I've been waiting for a very very long time to upgrade my current Pc (Intel E8400 + GTX 260), i know 4930K is about to be released but is almost the same than 3930K in perfomance, anyway the range of options of MOBOS for Z87 is wider and nice looking, X79 has currently lack of options.

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

Ok according with logic, how much time could i hold with that 4770K and how much time with 3930K, about the same? I'm looking for something that last me 3 - 5 years, but if 3930K gonna last as much as 4770K , then i guess the choice is made.

rounakr94 · Sep 2, 2013

Go for 3930X you seem to have a lot of money dude. KUDOS

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

Sujeto_1 :

Be forewarned...you will likely only get about 4.2 GHz out of the 4770k. If you're going to overclock the 3770k is actually better. 3770k @ 4.5 > 4770k @ 4.2

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

Pfft...you are the laptop king. Desktop PCs don't run on batteries...power consumption is not an issue.

However, don't listen to a game developer...go ahead and build your Intel system and watch the world laugh when they underperform in next gen games.

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

rounakr94 :

hafijur :

I know Laptops is a total different world, and as he said, i'm not care of 4770K power consuption when perfomance and costs is my real concern.

Tradesman1 · Sep 2, 2013

Either would make a great gaming rig, the 4770K should more than suffice, as far as the world laughing, don't see it happening, right now the big joke the AMD 9590 that was what about a grand, and already down to $850 (and due for yet another price cut, that gets outperformed by a stock 4770K and left behind by an OCed 4770K or even a OCed 3770K, and that few to none are buying.

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

Tradesman1 :

Actually it's $350 now.

That was more a "halo" product.

The reality is, the newest console architectures will push toward more cores, and Intel is not prepared for that. It won't be overnight this happens, though...in the next 12-24 months AMD hardware will be the hardware in gaming.

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

8350rocks :

Well it is prepared for it as its 4 cores outperform the 8 cores. Even developers for consoles are saying how hard it is to get the physics working as it can't really be broken up to pieces that easily for cores. Its like a nightmare for current developers but they say in the long run cpus that are performing badly like the 8 core amd cpus will improve as they are having to change completely how they develop to make it work on an entry level cpu. What this means is the 4 core intels current destroying of amd 8 cores in games will level out.

Intel have 6 core and next year 8 core which for gaming is a complete overkill. AMD are the cheaper option for rrp prices but for me I don't pay rrp prices I get them from resellers and my new build will cost £300 and easily beat your desktop at games and futureproofness. Its amazing how far intel are ahead though, if you said to me in late 2009 intel have improved this much performance and at this efficiency and there igpus I would have thought near impossible but intel have made the near impossible possible while amd have stood still and milked a really poor product in the piledriver cpus. I am even amazed how they could not improve since the phenom 2 cpus even at 32nm.

In fact I am failing to see how a cpu with ancient tech based memory controller half the speed of haswell, is in anyway futureproof. A 2.4ghz c2d level ipc when clocked at 4-4.2ghz for the fx8350 and lets not forget no igpu like intel and it being so power hogging for so little performance you would think we are not in 2013 but 2008.

Anyway to get back on topic an i7 4770k is an amazing product perfect for at least another 5 years. I always thought it would be amazing if intel released a beast of a cpu and sip so little power and the i7 4770k is that.

When you say 4770K is an amazing 2013 product you gotta talk about the real amazing 2600K from 2011, not too much progress we had have since 2011, 2600K = 4770K in perfomance just cheaper to produce for intel. Same history with 3930K = 4930K. So release date is not relevant imo. I just saw a video of perfomance FX-8350 vs 3770K in gaming, even when FX-8350 close sometimes it fails most of time to the point of dissapointing. So as you, i cant see how it will suddenly become the Pro CPU for gaming, plus developers won't change the way they code games just because Sony made a contract with AMD.

Tradesman1 · Sep 2, 2013

Not sure where $350 - Newegg today: still $849 - the big thing with the consoles is that AMD practically is giving the 8 core CPUs to them to promote AMD and try to raise a buzz - don't see and can't find anything about anyone developing for 8 cores - so they basically are worthless - and I'm still chuckling about the 9590 - have no idea what AMD was thinking, they basically fed steroids to an 8350 and prob pulled the cream of the dies to get ones that could run at 5, pumped up with voltage and it's still a relatively slow performance wise....all this did was egg on the face of AMD......and this is to encourage folks to Steamroller - the 5GHz megalith get's beat by a stock 4770K - how are they going to promote a lower/slower SteamRoller against Intel - Are they going to pump it way up also like they did with the 8350

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

Let's see...it won't be good for 5 years anymore than anything else would. It doesn't sip power...at all. In fact it draws more than the 3770k under load...or have you forgotten that already?

I really wish you would refrain from trying to have a technical conversation...you can't seem to speak accurately about it at all.

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

Tradesman1 :

Actually, as a Game Developer...I can assure you, within 6 months...there will be at least a dozen new titles using a minimum of 6 cores that are ports directly from consoles. Give it 12 months and that figure will be closer to 4 times as many.

They were thinking "We have 5 GHz factory bragging rights".

As for the 9590, it's less a display of "this is going to be amazing" and more a TWKR "look what we can do" situation.

Do you recall the TWKRs? If so, then you know they sold for $10k each with the aim at breaking world overclocking records specifically...

8350rocks · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

Actually, if you want to talk innovation...AMD64 was the single biggest innovation in the history of hardware. It started "the arms race"...

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

8350rocks :

Tradesman1 :

Actually, as a Game Developer...I can assure you, within 6 months...there will be at least a dozen new titles using a minimum of 6 cores that are ports directly from consoles. Give it 12 months and that figure will be closer to 4 times as many.

They were thinking "We have 5 GHz factory bragging rights".

As for the 9590, it's less a display of "this is going to be amazing" and more a TWKR "look what we can do" situation.

Do you recall the TWKRs? If so, then you know they sold for $10k each with the aim at breaking world overclocking records specifically...

Sorry i didnt understand this " Give it 12 months and that figure will be closer to 4 times as many".

Sujeto_1 · Sep 2, 2013

hafijur :

Ok and sorry to ask, why did you say he has an "agenda"?

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