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Need video card advice for 1440p gaming and photoediting, GTX 760 vs 770 vs 780 +

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September 2, 2013 4:48:14 PM

Hey all!

I am in the process of building a PC, I will go into the details if asked, but it's build based around the i7 4770k with water cooling etc. My questions is about the video card.

I have a 1440p Monitor for gaming and a 1080p in portrait for reference and some photo editing. I want to be able to run the latest games on that 1440p monitor on maxed out settings (with moderate anti-aliasing) and I have been considering the 700 series cards from nVidia, because of all the wonderful things I have heard about EVGA being amazing, so I would like to stick to the EVGA cards. I have been eying the SuperClocked EVGA GTX 770 4GB, but read recently that the 4GB version on slightly outperforms the 2GB (~2fps) because of the limited bus width of 256 bits, which has discouraged me a bit from that card. I know that with something like 1440p you want at LEAST 3GB of VRAM, which is why I liked the 770, but if you can't even use all the VRAM then that becomes less of an option. I am alright with purchasing a 780 if I absolutely must to accomplish my goal, however is the 3GB on the 780 good enough for the goal of maxed settings on 1440-p? Is there any reason I should reconsider the 770 4GB? Do you guys think I should go something like 760s in SLI? In which case should I just get the 2GB version because of the bus width? I know that the 760 SLI is an absolute powerhouse at budget costs, but can it's VRAM handle 1440p gaming? I do like the option of possible SLI 780s later, but that would be way down the line, and $650 is quite an investment for a card now when I can get those 2 760s for less, and they seem to outperform the 780. Then again when I get the SLI 780s later, they would crush the 760s.

Sorry for the ramble, any advise is appreciated, personal experience is a definite plus~!
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September 2, 2013 4:59:26 PM

The EVGA Classified is an excellent card..... The EVGA Superclock however is the only major brand factory overclocked GFX card that uses a reference PCB and stock VRM .... which kinda kills its manual OC ability. No sense water cooling an SC card as, it's OC will be limited by the puny VRM.

Some options:

760s in SLI rock as do 770s.....

EVGA Hydrocopper 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus Poseidon gives you the option of starting on air and upgrading to water later.....well when it gets here :) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Asus-ROG-GTX-770-Posei...


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September 2, 2013 4:59:49 PM

Ok first off your resolution is 1440P - so get the gpu with more VRAM, usually single cards are better just cause of less micro-stutter (if any) and some games do not allow SLI. I would get the 770 GTX w/ 4 Gigs of Ram. BUT!!! If you have the money and in the future you plan to... 780 sli's are great and good too.
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September 2, 2013 5:01:55 PM

Microstutter is an issue with cheaper cards......I have yet to see microstutter on any any card from the 650 Ti Boost up.....only current game I have heard of that doesn't support SLI is F1
September 2, 2013 5:06:58 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
The EVGA Classified is an excellent card..... The EVGA Superclock however is the only major brand factory overclocked GFX card that uses a reference PCB and stock VRM .... which kinda kills its manual OC ability. No sense water cooling an SC card as, it's OC will be limited by the puny VRM.

Some options:

760s in SLI rock as do 770s.....

EVGA Hydrocopper 770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus Poseidon gives you the option of starting on air and upgrading to water later.....well when it gets here :) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Asus-ROG-GTX-770-Posei...




The reason I did not really look at the HydroCopper is because I could install my own water cooling block on the GPU for cheaper than the the classified one. If the HydroCopper one had a larger bus width I would consider it. Also,it only has a slightly higher clock. I could also get a 780 for around the same price.
September 2, 2013 5:08:03 PM

sparkz89 said:
Ok first off your resolution is 1440P - so get the gpu with more VRAM, usually single cards are better just cause of less micro-stutter (if any) and some games do not allow SLI. I would get the 770 GTX w/ 4 Gigs of Ram. BUT!!! If you have the money and in the future you plan to... 780 sli's are great and good too.


What about the whole bus width thing not allowing the use of the 4gb?
September 2, 2013 5:09:15 PM

I'm curious about this too. My resolution is 1440P and I just want to game on my rig, but I've read that the 4GB isn't being used properly. Is there a benchmark which shows the difference in FPS for the GTX 760 2GB, GTX 760 4GB, GTX 770 2GB and GTX 770 4GB cards?

Also, the ATI 7970 3GB $100 less in my region and it looks like that outperforms the GTX 770 in some areas.

Really need some help trying to decide which one to get. Don't want to spend extra money on the 4GB if it's not going to be worth it, but also don't want to buy the 2GB version if it's just not going to perform at 1440P.
September 2, 2013 5:09:50 PM

byogamingpc said:
Your best buy would be SLI GTX 770 WF 4GB http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CU9GOAO/ref=as_li_q... Great performance for the cost. The 780 is an overpriced card right now at $660.


That's like 900 dollars worth of cards though, which is a bit out of my price range. The 780 is on the very brink of that range.
September 2, 2013 5:12:05 PM

Draelith said:
I'm curious about this too. My resolution is 1440P and I just want to game on my rig, but I've read that the 4GB isn't being used properly. Is there a benchmark which shows the difference in FPS for the GTX 760 2GB, GTX 760 4GB, GTX 770 2GB and GTX 770 4GB cards?

Also, the ATI 7970 3GB $100 less in my region and it looks like that outperforms the GTX 770 in some areas.

Really need some help trying to decide which one to get. Don't want to spend extra money on the 4GB if it's not going to be worth it, but also don't want to buy the 2GB version if it's just not going to perform at 1440P.


I was able to find this: http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-teste... which discouraged me from the 4gb 770. I am in your very same boat good sir! That last statment is exactly my question :) 
September 2, 2013 5:16:02 PM

Warcon said:
Draelith said:
I'm curious about this too. My resolution is 1440P and I just want to game on my rig, but I've read that the 4GB isn't being used properly. Is there a benchmark which shows the difference in FPS for the GTX 760 2GB, GTX 760 4GB, GTX 770 2GB and GTX 770 4GB cards?

Also, the ATI 7970 3GB $100 less in my region and it looks like that outperforms the GTX 770 in some areas.

Really need some help trying to decide which one to get. Don't want to spend extra money on the 4GB if it's not going to be worth it, but also don't want to buy the 2GB version if it's just not going to perform at 1440P.


I was able to find this: http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-teste... which discouraged me from the 4gb 770. I am in your very same boat good sir! That last statment is exactly my question :) 


Wow, that's really discouraging for the 4GB version. If that's true then I may have to either go with just the 2GB version, or the ATI Card. I don't really want another ATI card, but if the performance is better for cheaper then I may have to consider it.
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September 2, 2013 5:20:22 PM

Warcon said:
The reason I did not really look at the HydroCopper is because I could install my own water cooling block on the GPU for cheaper than the the classified one. If the HydroCopper one had a larger bus width I would consider it. Also,it only has a slightly higher clock. I could also get a 780 for around the same price.


Well if you can find them cheaper, that would be a viable option.... haven't had much luck myself :( ....at least not with full cover water blocks

Full cover water cooling blocks are typically over $100 and ya void ya warranty....
GTX 770 "Reference card only" $123
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20925/ex-blc-1506/XSP...

the 780 hydropcopper is $780.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the 780 is $680 and the full cover water block is $154
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20340/ex-vga-36/EVGA_...

EK sells it for 127 euro or about $170
September 2, 2013 5:40:47 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Warcon said:
The reason I did not really look at the HydroCopper is because I could install my own water cooling block on the GPU for cheaper than the the classified one. If the HydroCopper one had a larger bus width I would consider it. Also,it only has a slightly higher clock. I could also get a 780 for around the same price.


Well if you can find them cheaper, that would be a viable option.... haven't had much luck myself :( ....at least not with full cover water blocks

Full cover water cooling blocks are typically over $100 and ya void ya warranty....
GTX 770 "Reference card only" $123
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20925/ex-blc-1506/XSP...

the 780 hydropcopper is $780.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the 780 is $680 and the full cover water block is $154
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20340/ex-vga-36/EVGA_...

EK sells it for 127 euro or about $170


Yeah I was actually looking at the first one you linked, coupled with a 770 4GB, it would be about $583 as opposed o the $620 HydroCopper. Also I read that if you reinstall the ACX cooling on the EVGA, and there is no physical damage, you can still RMA it. With that first one though, it will work with the 780 too apparently. It's one of those things, where I will just use the acx cooling until I have the money to get all the parts to hook it up to water cooling.
September 2, 2013 5:43:26 PM

Draelith said:
Warcon said:
Draelith said:
I'm curious about this too. My resolution is 1440P and I just want to game on my rig, but I've read that the 4GB isn't being used properly. Is there a benchmark which shows the difference in FPS for the GTX 760 2GB, GTX 760 4GB, GTX 770 2GB and GTX 770 4GB cards?

Also, the ATI 7970 3GB $100 less in my region and it looks like that outperforms the GTX 770 in some areas.

Really need some help trying to decide which one to get. Don't want to spend extra money on the 4GB if it's not going to be worth it, but also don't want to buy the 2GB version if it's just not going to perform at 1440P.


I was able to find this: http://alienbabeltech.com/main/gtx-770-4gb-vs-2gb-teste... which discouraged me from the 4gb 770. I am in your very same boat good sir! That last statment is exactly my question :) 


Wow, that's really discouraging for the 4GB version. If that's true then I may have to either go with just the 2GB version, or the ATI Card. I don't really want another ATI card, but if the performance is better for cheaper then I may have to consider it.


SLI 760s are looking really attractive for the price range. The 780 though is an asbolute beast alone, and it will be worth more for longer, plus if I ever SLI it it will destroy any game. It's a tough choice :( 
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September 2, 2013 5:46:12 PM

Well you can get away with speeding 70 mph in a 55 mph zone and cheating on ta taxes :)  .... but that doesn't make or legal or ethical.

You can also get the Poseidon (was rumored fro September) .... then ya don't even have to remove card to add WC as it does both.

September 2, 2013 5:49:19 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Well you can get away with speeding 70 mph in a 55 mph zone and cheating on ta taxes :)  .... but that doesn't make or legal or ethical.

You can also get the Poseidon (was rumored fro September) .... then ya don't even have to remove card to add WC as it does both.



I feel like that is going to be incredibly over priced though, and I think the rumors of it were for a 770 model, which would bring us back to the initial bus width problem haha :) 
September 2, 2013 6:07:22 PM

Also do you guys think a XFX Black Edition 750w PSU would be enough ro tun 2 OCd 780s in SLI?
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