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September 3, 2013 10:31:24 AM

Hi all,

Hope everyone is doing fine.

I am really depressed and disappointed now, after my new SSD has terribly affected my windows 7 boot time.

I was running 2 HDD earlier with Win7 64 bit, 1 200 and 1 500 GB and Windows was running fine.

Today, I went ahead and purchased a Kingston 300V 60GB SSD after reading several reviews about how ssd improves windows performance.

The Tech Engineer came home, and did the installation. This is how he went with it.

He connected the Kingston SSD, put a win 7 CD and started the installation on the SSD.

At the time of installation, he formated the other HDD which had an earlier copy of Win 7.

Everything seemed fine till windows started up and it was really slow. The desktop screen loads quickly but the Network identification time takes over 3 minutes( the small computer which comes on the startup bar during startup) Even when I right click on My computer and click properties to see system config, it takes forever to load.

I read everywhere and tried several stuff like reinstal network card driver etc. Still no improvement.

Tried making Harddrive settings to AHIC in BIOS but the system does not start and only starts with IDE.

Tried making Boot priotiry with SSd first followed by HDD but windows did not start.

It only starts when I make the HDD in Boot Priority.

I got fedup with this and thought, I would resintall win7 again. So this time, I disconnected the other 2 HDDs and tried reinstalling win7. Here I failed. The system popped an error saying select proper boot device despite putting a Win 7 boot CD in the CD drive.

I disconnected the SSD and tried reinstalling windows in my old HDD. Here the CD boots but it gets stuck at a point where we need to select a language and click next. Mouse and Keyboard does not work after this point.

My mobo has 6 SATA ports ( 1,2,3,4,5,6 )

The SSD is plugged in 1, HDD 250GB in 2, HDD 500GB in 3, DVD ROM in 6.

Im really concerned about this issue now. What can I do? Please help me.

My system config -

CPU - AMD FX8350
Mobo- Asus M5A97 USB3 with AM3+ soc
RAM- 16GB Transcend Dual Channel
GPU - 6770 1GB
SSD-Kingston 60GB
HDD1-Seagate 500GB
HDD2-Seagate 200GB

Attaching a screenshot of my disk management.

Disk 0 is SSd
Disk 1 is HDD
Disk 2 is HDD

I would really appreciate if someone could help me out on this quickly as the tech engineer is coming again tomorrow. I dont think he has any idea and your advice will really help me guide him.

http://imageshack.us/f/27/5w0r.jpg/

Regards.Sahas
a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 11:29:07 AM


Prior to the installation of Win7, the HDD setup in the BIOS should have been set to SATA/AHCI.

At the first step in the installation process, you will have the opportunity to install the AMD sata.inf (AHCI) driver via thumbdrive -- or, you may let the OS installation install the Microsoft AHCI drivers.

It's possible that Win7 has the AMD sata.inf file as a native driver by now, but I really don't know.

I am also not 100% certain as to the difference between the MS AHCI drivers and the AMD AHCI drivers -- except to say in years-prior it was necessary to install the AMD sata.inf driver to properly enable the port-multiplier function.

That may not be the case, now, with the MS AHCI drivers.

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September 3, 2013 11:41:16 AM

This is just me and what I personally would do. Disconnect all other HDD drives besides the SSD. Boot up the PC, insert the Windows disc, boot to the Windows setup.

Before you start the installation, DELETE all the SSD partitions so it's just empty space. This step is important. Usually on a standard drive with Windows installed on it, there will be 2 partitions, the windows installation itself and a backup/recovery partition that is only seen at this screen. Make sure to DELETE both until it says nothing but empty space. Then click on the empty partition and click NEXT. It will format the drive for you so it's a clean installation.

Also, your Windows 7 bootup time will be slower until you install ALL the Windows updates that are currently available for your system. I believe it is a few updates after the Service Pack 1 that you see that it gets faster.

After you update your Windows, you will see it's very fast bootup. After all that is done, THEN you can connect your HDDs. It's important to only connect the Windows drive until after you setup Windows and update it. This is not required, BUT it definitely helps eliminate any possibility of error of installing any part of Windows on another drive by accident.

I hope this helps. This would definitely stress me out as well. If you need any more assistance, just shoot me a message.
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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 11:55:17 AM

The SSD won't function its best unless disk access is set to AHCI in BIOS, so set BIOS to AHCI, boot up the Windows 7 install disk, clear out all partitions on the SSD, then install Windows 7 fresh. It should work fine.
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September 3, 2013 12:10:53 PM

mbreslin1954 said:
The SSD won't function its best unless disk access is set to AHCI in BIOS, so set BIOS to AHCI, boot up the Windows 7 install disk, clear out all partitions on the SSD, then install Windows 7 fresh. It should work fine.


Thank you all for the replies. I have tried doing that. But when I try a fresh instal of windows on SSD with my HDD disconnected, I get an error saying insert correct boot drive. So it basically does not work.

I am also unable to select AHCI from the motherboard. If i select it, Windoes does not start. It only starts with IDE.

Attaching some screenshots.

http://postimg.org/gallery/9zowzhdw/5b8added/

Can I try installing Windows in the new SSD again after deleting the partition with the other HDD connected on? Its not allowing me to install in any other way. :( 

Guess am screwed and my money gone down the drain. :( 





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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 12:47:26 PM


It appears the issue is ... the tech guy did not set the boot drive in the BIOS to AHCI prior to the OS installation on the SSD. That would be a major fail on his part.

I agree that all other devices, NICs, HDDs, etc., should not be installed prior to the installation of the OS. The installation itself will provide for the elimination of any current partitions -- they should all be deleted prior to a fresh install.

Once the install is complete, the first thing to install is your onboard NIC driver, and head for the Windows update.

You will likely be prompted that Windows Update has to update before you can update Windows via Windows Update ... :lol: 

(not a joke!)

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September 3, 2013 1:06:16 PM

Wisecracker said:

It appears the issue is ... the tech guy did not set the boot drive in the BIOS to AHCI prior to the OS installation on the SSD. That would be a major fail on his part.

I agree that all other devices, NICs, HDDs, etc., should not be installed prior to the installation of the OS. The installation itself will provide for the elimination of any current partitions -- they should all be deleted prior to a fresh install.

Once the install is complete, the first thing to install is your onboard NIC driver, and head for the Windows update.

You will likely be prompted that Windows Update has to update before you can update Windows via Windows Update ... :lol: 

(not a joke!)





Alright. So this is what I have done.

Put the Windows CD inside and started the setup with all drives intact. SSD and HDD

While installation I reformated my SSD completely and removed all system partitions from other HD as well.

Quit the setup , turned off the PC and removed the HDD connection.

Installed Windoes freshly on the SSD and running the update right now.

Only problem, I was unable to select AHIC, only IDE was compatable. When I selected AHIC, the system failed to boot.

So continued with IDE.

Will post result after update completes and after my connect rest of my HDD.

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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:11:17 PM


Prior to booting to the install DVD, you should enter the BIOS HDD setup and enable SATA/AHCI.

You cannot do so *after-the-fact* ...

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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:11:56 PM

I don't understand. When you say you were unable to select AHCI, does that mean your motherboard does not support AHCI and so it was not available to select? Or that when you selected it for the SSD, then the computer would not boot from the optical drive (CD/DVD)?

Or are you saying that after selecting the SSD drive to be AHCI in BIOS, and after booting up the computer from the Windows DVD, then after installing it on the SSD, THEN it failed to reboot from the SSD?
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September 3, 2013 1:18:08 PM

mbreslin1954 said:
I don't understand. When you say you were unable to select AHCI, does that mean your motherboard does not support AHCI and so it was not available to select? Or that when you selected it for the SSD, then the computer would not boot from the optical drive (CD/DVD)?

Or are you saying that after selecting the SSD drive to be AHCI in BIOS, and after booting up the computer from the Windows DVD, then after installing it on the SSD, THEN it failed to reboot from the SSD?


The second one to be precise.

Selected the SSD option in BIOS as AHCI. Then put in the windows boot CD. When it tried running , I got an error saying Select proper boot drive.

Tried several times still same error.

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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:23:25 PM

Then your error is not AHCI, it's booting from the Windows DVD. Check your BIOS setup, is there any chance you accidentally set the DVD drive to boot AHCI? That drive needs to be left to IDE. Just the SSD and any hard drives should be set to AHCI, but not optical drives. After that, make sure the DVD is set to be the default boot drive, or select it on the fly if your motherboard allows that.
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a c 812 G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:33:17 PM

To run windows setup with your motherbd in AHCI mode you need amd's preinstallation driver available to load on a usb or optical disk which you can find here in the sata section:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97_R20/#support_Dow...

You will probably want to have most of those drivers donwnload and availble also. Chipset, GPU, Lan, Audio, usb, and the hotfix (for your cpu)

To reinstall windows also be sure to set the boot drive so that the optical disk is first. When you get to the screen that asks where to install windows to, click the link to load addtional drivers and then load the preinstall driver.

yes you definitely want AHCI mode.

After you install windows the drivers should be the next thing to load. I always use the order I listed them in (above) to install them. After all the drivers are install its time for (to install) Antivirus and then windows updates

I hope you didn't pay this tech... he should know this stuff and being doing his job correctly the first time.
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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:37:55 PM

Sorry, I didn't realize AMD mobos operated that way. I haven't built an AMD system in many years.
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a b G Storage
September 3, 2013 1:45:05 PM

sahas83 said:
mbreslin1954 said:
I don't understand. When you say you were unable to select AHCI, does that mean your motherboard does not support AHCI and so it was not available to select? Or that when you selected it for the SSD, then the computer would not boot from the optical drive (CD/DVD)?

Or are you saying that after selecting the SSD drive to be AHCI in BIOS, and after booting up the computer from the Windows DVD, then after installing it on the SSD, THEN it failed to reboot from the SSD?


The second one to be precise.

Selected the SSD option in BIOS as AHCI. Then put in the windows boot CD. When it tried running , I got an error saying Select proper boot drive.

Tried several times still same error.



You should simply set your boot sequence with your DVD first :) 

I think you've got it, now!

If you do not need the port-multiplier function, I think you can go with the MS AHCI drivers, and do not have to worry about the pre-install of the AMD sata.inf file.

BUT ... like I said -- I'm not 100% certain ...



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September 4, 2013 2:56:19 AM

The intallation is complete. Windows now loads in around 20 seconds. Earlier it was 70 seconds.

Anything else I need to do now post installation? I have already turned off indexing in SSd and disabled Defragmenting.
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a b G Storage
September 4, 2013 8:07:59 AM

sahas83 said:
The intallation is complete. Windows now loads in around 20 seconds. Earlier it was 70 seconds.

Anything else I need to do now post installation? I have already turned off indexing in SSd and disabled Defragmenting.


File a complaint with the BBB (if you don't get your money back from the Tech that pooched your SSD installation and OS re-install)

:) 


edit: You may also return your SSD to first in your boot sequence (if you have not already done so) ...

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September 4, 2013 9:50:46 AM

Thanks a lot guys. :)  Its all done now. Issue Solved. :) 
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September 4, 2013 10:03:53 AM

sahas83 said:
Thanks a lot guys. :)  Its all done now. Issue Solved. :) 


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