CPU Overheating (Unknown Causes)

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I recently (and I mean recently) built a PC, and the temperatures are significantly high. I am using an AMD Athlon 750k Black @ 3.4 GHz Quad-Core on a FM2-A75MA-E35 Motherboard, stock heatsink fan, One 120mm fan, a CX430 PSU, XFX 1GB 6570 GPU, and 8GB of RAM all in a ThermalTake v3 Black case. I know that there are no airflow problems, no thermal compound problems, dust problems, etc. The CPU temperature stays around 55-60C and maybe even 50C (if I'm lucky). It is not overclocked as well. I've been searching the internet for weeks with yet to find a reasonable explanation for all of this heat. Can anyone help me? I'm not sure if it's a heatsink problem (which I wouldn't think you would receive such a bad product even when your PC is not overclocked), or any other problem. It is also my first time building a computer. Please help me find a reasonable explanation.
 

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Even though you say there is no thermal compound issue, have you tried to clean your CPU and re-apply it anyway? It seems like unless the voltage is too high, which I wouldn't think is the case, you have to point your finger at either the thermal compound application, the cooler, or possibly a faulty reading of the temps.

By the way, what are you doing when the temps are that high? Idling?
 

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I have tried to re-apply thermal compound. At those temperatures, I'm watching YouTube videos, talking on Skype with friends, etc.
 

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CPUID HW Monitor. Also, the Core wattage jumps around a lot. It'll be around 10, then jump up to 25 then back down to 8 then all the way up to 35W. Could this be a potential problem?
 

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I'm no expert on that, but you may want to post a screen shot of HW monitor. Since it'll show current, min, and max maybe someone with a bit more technical knowledge might be able to see something that jumps out at them.
 

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Hey there, FM2-A75MA-E35 has 3+2 phases, it could be about that... I had a FX 8350 running on a 4+1 phased mobo and i was getting damn high temps... i switched the mobo to a 8+2 and the temps reduced to a normal number... Athlon 750k requires a 6+2 mobo... Somebody correct me if i'm wrong
 

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I'm not sure if this means anything but I just stressed my PC with Prime95 and took note of the voltages. They stayed very consistent throughout the process, something I noticed is a bit different than what you reported. For example, your CPU Vcore fluctuated from 0.888V to 1.312 whereas mine stayed between 1.308 and 1.344. Likewise, your 12V is consistently above 15V. Hopefully someone with a little more knowledge about voltages can chime in and see if my observations mean anything or are useless, but it is something that kind of jumped out at me.

The other thing I noticed is that your HD is reading at 41 degrees, which seems awfully high for a drive. By comparison I'm running at 23 degrees. That almost leads me to believe that there is some insufficient airflow in your case. Now, that may not necessarily be what's driving your CPU temps so high but warm, stagnant air is never a good thing.
 

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I was able to drop the temperature about 5C because the fan in my PSU was facing down in the case. *facepalm*. The temperatures are still not what I want them to be, but I've noticed that on HWMonitor, I doubt those measurements are right. I have the click II BIOS, and I am able to pull my BIOS up while I'm signed onto my user, and it says that the CPU temp is around 38C??? It may be true, unfortunately most Temperature monitoring programs are not compatible with my CPU model. Oh yeah, the HDD is fairly old, around 6-7 years old. This is just odd.
 

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I'm glad you were able to get the temps brought down a bit with the fan issue. I have to admit that I did the same thing at first. Now, I use a sheet of paper any time I install a fan to immediately see the airflow. As far as monitoring goes and having old software that is a pain. Does CoreTemp work for you?
 

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I'm glad you were able to get the temps brought down a bit with the fan issue. I have to admit that I did the same thing at first. Now, I use a sheet of paper any time I install a fan to immediately see the airflow. As far as monitoring goes and having old software that is a pain. Does CoreTemp work for you?
 

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Yes, CoreTemp does work, but I cant find the overall temperature of the CPU chip, just the cores.
 

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sounds like the most logical explanation to me. any particular cooler suggestions that can fit my mobo?
 


Cooler Master 212 EVO is good
 

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There should be quite a few that would fit. I would use pcpartpicker.com because they have a compatibility check feature that's nice, plus they will usually link you to some of the best prices out there. I got a Seidon 120M for $24.99 on sale after rebate. If you do go with a 212 I checked and it should easily fit your case.
 

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My Motherboard has two latches where a metal part of the heatsink goes around. Is it possible to uninstall those from my motherboard? Or can i only use ones that have the metal part to latch onto the motherboard?
 

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Oh yeah, on HWMonitor, The temps of the CPU are much hotter than the ones in my BIOS. I have BIOS Click II, and I can open the BIOS while the CPU is fully booted. It says I'm at around 40C. Do you think I have a faulty sensor on my CPU? I haven't played any games on it since I posted this thread. Starting to have withdrawals.
 

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You can remove the latch portions that hold the heatsinks without any problem. As far as a faulty sensor, that's always a possibility. When you look at BIOS vs. HWMonitor, I wonder if there are two separate sensors being measured, though. I haven't had this problem as SpeedFan, HWMonitor, and my BIOS all read the sensor at the same temp.
 


May be as HW Monitor and BiOS have consistantly been different for me as well ( HW reads about 5C higher ).
 

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You know, my HDD might be overheating. I think it may not be my CPU's fault. I installed it correctly, and applied new thermal paste last night. It's still at the same temperature. The CPU isn't even overclocked. My HDD is rather old, being a Seagate ST325031 0AS. Could that be a potential problem?
 

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when my PC "overheats", the game freezes, the sound stutters, then I get a black screen and it shows that my monitor is entering power save mode, signaling that the PC has been turned off. It then boots up, and shows the Windows Error Recovery screen (where it requires you to pick one of multiple loading procedures Safe Mode, Start Windows normally, etc.