Improving on my Current Build OR building a new one.

LoganCHammonds

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Alright, so I'm looking to improve on my current build OR build a completely new computer. I'm probably going to give my current build to a younger brother. There are three main reasons I want a new computer now.

One, is that I've got my Skyrim looking absolutely glorious. Only problem with that is after about 15 minutes of gameplay my fps drops from 90-104 down to 33-50 because my gpu is reaching extreme temperatures (Between 91c and 103c at the most.) Now when it gets this hot I hit Shift+Enter and turn the ENB off long enough for it to cool back down before turning it back on.

Two, I want to be able to run all the next-gen games (Although I expect the main one, ESO, my current build could already handle on max. I think.) at max with 60fps+.

Three, I can afford to go really big with my build this time. Last time I spent $1,200 or so not including monitors, speakers, ect. This time I'm willing to go up to about $2,500 if necessary.

If improving upon the current build I am looking for a few things. Crazy Speed if possible, way better cooling (Because 91c-103c is just way too hot.) and if the current motherboard can't control a raid (I want to keep everything automatically backed up) a mobo that will. A friend of mine did suggest buying a portable air conditioning unit and connecting it to my computer through a hose to keep the inside of the case very cool. If that'd work, wonderful, however I am concerned about possibly elevating the humidity levels inside the case to dangerous levels if I did that. Would that be an issue?

I bought the computer and since it was the first thing I earned over $1,000 to buy was very very proud of it and named it 'The Beast' haha... It was also the first gaming computer I ever owned since about 2005 (Dad bought that one for me. I was 10)... I have folks at Tom's Hardware to thank for the build below as I was and am still fairly clueless as to what to get and what works together. I can put the parts together and keep them running but the actual build tends to give me trouble.

GPU - Evga GTX 670
Processor - Intel I5 Ivy Bridge 3570K
Cooler - cooler master hyper 212 EVO
MB -asrock z68 extreme3 gen 3
Ram - g.skill ripjaws x 8gb(2x4gb)
CD Drive - asus cd/dvd rom
HDD1: I forget exactly, a 250gb Sata though
HDD2: I also forget, a 150gb sata
Power Supply: I forget... Its a 550 watt though.
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)
Os - Win 7 home premium

^ If that can be improved great, if not I'll give it to my little brother.

As for the completely new build I was figuring for the GPU a GTX690 or GTX Titan, Raided HDDs or SDDs if you can raid those. The raid is for backup of course. A case with very high airflow... Anyway, what do you guys think? What could I build for $2,500?

Thanks ahead of time. :)
 
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Don't take his advice on IB-E.

IB-E is for certain users not all users.
It is for workstation users that need the cores or for enthusiasts that have nothing better to do(or just a hobby)

You do not need that much of an upgrade, i would say change the motherboard(z68 is the sandy bridge board get a z77) and upgrade PSU+GPU.

CPU upgrade(ivy-haswell) is not worth the cost. The performance will be minuscule.

670-780 May be a very big performance increase(either sell the 670 or add a 670 pretty much) and since it seems you are having heat problems, i think you should sell the 670 and get an aftermarket 780 which keeps it cool.

Case is preference, if you want a new one its your choice, if you want to keep it to save money that is an...

iNova

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I suggest you just upgrade your Graphics card. To a GTX760 or a GTX770, or if you can afford it, a GTX780. If you want to build a new one, I can rack up a parts list for you. Also if you want to go X79 I recommend you wait for Ivy Bridge E to come out, then build a new X79 comp
 

LoganCHammonds

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I thought that the 760/770 were essentially just overclocked 660s/670s? And x79? Also, as for keeping the current build would I need a new mobo to raid some HDDs/SDDs, how could I cool it more effectively (Would the portable AC idea work?) and would I not need a better power supply? :)
 

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Don't take his advice on IB-E.

IB-E is for certain users not all users.
It is for workstation users that need the cores or for enthusiasts that have nothing better to do(or just a hobby)

You do not need that much of an upgrade, i would say change the motherboard(z68 is the sandy bridge board get a z77) and upgrade PSU+GPU.

CPU upgrade(ivy-haswell) is not worth the cost. The performance will be minuscule.

670-780 May be a very big performance increase(either sell the 670 or add a 670 pretty much) and since it seems you are having heat problems, i think you should sell the 670 and get an aftermarket 780 which keeps it cool.

Case is preference, if you want a new one its your choice, if you want to keep it to save money that is an option too.

For the HDDs, use those as a back up drive or for a cloud storage kinda thing and then get a new SSD+HDD

Keep ram, no need to really upgrade.

If you want to scrape that PC and give it to your brother, then i would go with this build
(Note: if you have a microcenter nearby, grab the CPU+Mobo from there as it is a lot cheaper)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($148.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1681.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-03 21:11 EDT-0400)

PSU should be strong enough to add in a second 780
 
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LoganCHammonds

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Alright cool cool, thanks I very well might just build that new one you just mentioned. As an off note on my current build though -nothing- gets over 35c except for my GPU which can get, like I said, to 91c-103c. The lowest I've seen it at running modern games on max was 80c. Checking it right now when the only thing I have loaded up is IE its at 45c.

Also, do you think I'd need a second 780? As an idea of the games I'd use it for... Skyrim (With a ton of graphic mods), Morrowind (Also with a ton of graphics mods), WoW, Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Mass Effect, ESO when it comes out, The Witchers... Stuff like that. Also, I suppose I should have mentioned this but I do 3D modeling, digital painting, modding (For Tes games) and I multi-task quite a bit.

Thanks again. :)
 

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The 760 loses the fight with the 670, the 670 is still better then the 760, the 770 is just an overclocked 680.
 

iNova

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The 670 beats the 760 anyday, the 770 is just an overclocked 680 with better cooling (depending on which company your buying em from, e.g. 770 from MSI is Twin Frozr IV, where as 680 from MSI is Twin Frozr III)

EDIT: I can build you an X79 build, so that you won't have to build a new comp every 3 years. For less then $2500. With a decent Video Card to.