New game pc build (prepared for Battlefield 4)

JeFF1985

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Hello guys,

After 3 yeas its time for a new game system!
I have spend days reading reviews and came up with the following hardware setup


CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-DELUXE/DUAL ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($1074.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($167.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Coolermaster Silencio 550
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)

Would be nice if i can get some advice/feedback on this setup, is this a good setup or?
Is the PSU overkill for this system?
If there is better hardware i do have more budget for my new system, advice is always welcome!

 

John Koligliaths

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I would suggest an GTX 780 over a titan , it will handle BF4 and is much 300$ cheaper than the titan . I would buy an I5-4670k processor as i7 doesnt really helps in gaming . For cooling i would suggest a corsair h110 . For a motherboard i would suggest an ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO . You wont need 512 GB SSD 256 will be more than enough . If you are planning to overclock i suggest 2133 MHz memory . Also the PSU is an overkill , i would buy a 700Watt one .
 
On such a high-end build, you want to prepare a bit for the games that will be coming out in a year, or a few years, and the way it's going, they will probably make use of hyperthreading. Also, his SSDs are his only storages, so I don't agree with the fact that 256GB will be "more than enough", 512GB even looks way too small to me. But as he didn't pick more than that, he might think that he'll be fine with it. Anyway, here's the build that I would personally recommend you :

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1zXCz
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1zXCz/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1zXCz/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.96 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($369.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2440.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-04 15:31 EDT-0400)
 

g-unit1111

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I would suggest an GTX 780 over a titan , it will handle BF4 and is much 300$ cheaper than the titan . I would buy an I5-4670k processor as i7 doesnt really helps in gaming . For cooling i would suggest a corsair h110 . For a motherboard i would suggest an ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO . You wont need 512 GB SSD 256 will be more than enough . If you are planning to overclock i suggest 2133 MHz memory . Also the PSU is an overkill , i would buy a 700Watt one .

Dual 770 will outperform a single 780, and even outperform a Titan: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sli_review,21.html

Oh and how much will using 2133 RAM affect your CPU's gaming performance? If you answered 0%, you are correct. Anything else and you are sadly mistaken. You can actually void your CPU's warranty by overclocking your RAM or using RAM that fast on your motherboard. I don't know where this nonsense is coming from, but it must be stopped. Fast RAM only affects you if you're running an onboard GPU. And do not pay for Dominator Platinum, RAM prices are way too volatile right now, and you do not want to pay 3x the price for nothing more than a fancy heat sink.



Purchasing an i7, an overpriced motherboard, and a 500GB SSD will not prepare you for future games. It just means you overspent by about $500. In short, there's nothing that will prepare you for future games. A BD-R burner is no longer necessary for gaming because games will no longer use the format. Optical discs are the new floppies, IMO.

You could shave about $500 off that build which you are very unnecessarily spending by doing this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (Gunmetal) ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($197.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1989.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-04 16:04 EDT-0400)

Paying $500 for an SSD is not a good idea because SSDs aren't meant to be a substitute for dedicated HDs. You can always add or remove drives as needed. Using an SSD as your only storage device is not a good idea. They only have a certain amount of read / write cycles per drive lifespan, and they actually slow down once you load them above 80%. Get a 128GB and store only your OS and main programs on it, then get a 1 - 2TB mass storage drive, that will be a much wiser investment.
 

flexxar

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I have 2x 7950's in crossfire and they beat a single titan in every benchmark that I've seen out there by 20% or more. You get way more bang for your buck in crossfire/sli. In fact, after amd's new beta drivers the 7990 is currently the fastest single card gpu out there. Period. And it's only $700 and comes with like 8 games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/catalyst-13.8-frame-pacing-crossfire,3595.html

Also, I would get one big 500gb ssd instead of 2 small ones.
 

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Well you definitely cannot argue against the free games included. However the drivers that are being tested in that article are still pre production (beta) drivers, things could change drastically by the time Catalyst 13.8 is actually released. I use Catalyst 13.2 and my Crossfire setup is still prone to lots of stuttering issues. I noticed this playing Assassin's Creed 3.
 

JeFF1985

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Thanks for all the feedback so far.

Let me explain why i made some choices in my posted setup.

GFX
I took the EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN SuperClocked Signature 6GB card because as far as i could find on the internet its the most (fps stable for Battlefield 3)and fastest single gpu card at the moment. I have read a lot of topics about the HD 7790 card and what really scares me is the stuttering/frame latency problems, also i have seen posts that say the card will be taken out of retail this month because the new Volcanic Islands series will be released in Q3 or Q4 this year.

The reason i want a single card is because i can always add another card to it if i lack gpu power in future games.


Mobo
I picked the Asus Z87-Deluxe/Dual board because of the Thunderbolt ports, i really see the future in this interface after reading a couple of articles, thats why i decided its worth a couple of extra bucks to be thunderbolt ready. Or am i putting my money on the wrong horse here?

Storage
For my storage i use a QNAP TS-419+ nas, thats the main reason why there is no need for TB disks in my pc.
The reason why i want 2 SSD disks is because i use VMWare occasionally for my work. Those virtual machines do eat space, and i thought it was the best option to seperate this from my OS/Games.

Thanks for the advice for the Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler, i will definitely go for that one after reading some reviews compared to the h100

Any comments on my answers are verry much welcome!
 

John Koligliaths

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Well i might be mistake with RAM , but still SLI and CROSSFIRE configurations arent that stable
 

flexxar

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Then I will have to congratulate you on having the fastest single gpu card for about three weeks, depending on how long shipping takes. After the next gen amd cards are released next month, I will have to laugh because you spent so much money on the second or perhaps even third fastest single gpu card.
 

flexxar

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So here's the deal with that. The 8xxx series are just rebadged 7xxx series cards and were distributed mostly for oem. For the most part, 8xxx was skipped. The cards I'm talking about are the 9xxx series cards (they might even be called R9). They are going to be awesome.

This is speculation, but might give you an idea of the 9970 awesomeness vs titan.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-9970-vs-GeForce-GTX-TITAN
 
As for this video controversy, there is always something on or just over the horizon. I you wait, you spend a lifetime waiting for the next best thing to hit the shelves. In building, you go with what is available now. When I upgraded the 1st of june from the Sandy i7 2600k to the Haswell i7 4770k, I stayed with the GTX 680 I had in here. It serves me well and I don't see any reason to move as at the time I upgraded, I only had the Card for a year ( Bought in June '12, right after the GTX 680 came out ). I have shied away from sli / Xfire due to the stability issues as well as the pita it can be to set it up.
@ JEFF1985 Your comments on your choices were very good. I guess it is good to have an NAS.