I don't understand the difference in Video Cards GTX780

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What's the diffent in all these GTX 780 cards. My build will have Intel Core i5-4670K, ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO, samsung SSD, Corsair Vengeance 16GB. What will be the best GTX 780 card for me?
 
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There are basically four different types of cards:

1. Reference cards .... nVidia's basic design, no extra oomph or features.....why bother (see 3)

2. Overclocked reference cards - nVidia's basic design with a better cooler and factory over clock (i.e EVGA SC series).... half assed approach IMO .... like putting a extra 200Hp engine in car w/o adding drive train that can handle the extra torque.

3. Factory overclocked cards with custom PCBs, beefier VRMs and better coolers (i.e Asus DCII, Gigabayte Windforce, MSI PE)). Same price as category 1 usually so why not take advantage of the extra ruggedness and performance

4. Same as 3 but a step further with multiple BIOS, voltage unlock and other serious overclocker features (i.e MSI Lightning, EVGA Classified)....worth the extra dough ? .... answer is user dependent.

I can see a case for categories 1, 2 and 4 .... I'd avoid category 2. I don't know what your needs are so hard to speculate further what might be best for you.
 
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Every brand has their own cooling systems, different overclocks (some more then others) and unique features (Dual Bios, custon PCB layout and colors, backplates etc...) There are quite a few GTX 780's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709+600451269+600286741&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=48&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=
Pick whichever one fits your budget (The more expensive one usually have higher OC and more unique features, get one without the reference blower cooler)
 
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Seems like a good one, what kind of power supply do you suggest for my build.
 
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yea, I just wanna get the right one most of them with $20 of each other.
 
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I would go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
It's 80+ Gold, gives extra headroom for Ocing and such and is modular (You plug in the wires that you need)
 
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Here are a few reviews of the card that I recommended :
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_SC_ACX_Cooler/31.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/evga-geforce-gtx-780-superclocked-acx-cooling-video-card-review_2206/16
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61729-evga-geforce-gtx-780-acx-sc-review-9.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_sc_acx_review,27.html

I definitively don't believe you, when you say that it's a bad card, sorry sir.
 
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SC = Superclocked
 
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I would agree with him, look at some Asus cards or MSI cards. Both are great.
 
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ususally from what ive seen the early released or first production run ofreference designs are the favorites of those who wish to waterblock and shoot for the moon on their overclocks. other than that, now its really about how quiet the fans are under a full overclock load, cooling is important but from what ive seen the 780 usually barely passes 70c even with an overclock to staying under that old 80c rule is fairly easy because of the efficiency of the newer generation cards. if you ask the critics, it can be argued that the msi twin frozr 2 and 3 and lightning models have been so popular and trust worthy for a few years now only in this last generation did the rest of the manufactures finally improve their designs and catch up.

other than that, if you clock them all, every single one to the same clocks, their going to perform exactly or withing .1% of each other, its just how loud the fan is and how cool the vrm's and gpu stay. then its just luck of the draw getting a high ascics gpu that is capable of being overclocked to the moon.
 
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I take no offense to you not believing something I never said. I said it used a reference PCB and stock VRM. Did you found anything in those reviews that contradicts this ?

If EVGA wants to sell a factory overclocked card and warranty it without taking those extra steps that the competition does, I take no issue with that. But since II'm gonna OC it after I install it and that is not covered by their warranty, I choose to spend my money elsewhere.

I have to wonder though why a card buyer would take the SC from EVGA at 967 Mhz when ......
.... Zotak AMP comes outta the box at 1006MHz at $20 less
.... Galaxy comes outta the box at 967MHz at $10 less
.....EVGA has a non SC card that comes outta the box at 980MHz for just $10 more

To my view, it seems an unsound decision but EVGA has been doing this since the 5xx generation while every other major player in the industry (and yes even EVGAs uses custom PCBs and beefed up VRMS in the FTW and Classified lines) has chosen to address the increased loads on the factory overclocked cards by using a more rugged design. I feel a bit more comfy about how far I overclock if I know that I have more to work with than what is provided by the stock designs. I have hit 30% overclocks using factory OCd cards from Asus and I credit the beefed up VRMs with having provided the capability to hit those marks.
 
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