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September 4, 2013 4:26:51 PM

I am getting very close to finally coming up with the parts for my new 3d modeling build, I will be using mostly maya, zbrush, photoshop (and mild gaming, sims, age of empires, etc.)

I am pretty sure I am going to be going the Xeon e5-1650 route with a PNY Quadro K4000.


I need help filling in the rest with good quality parts, mainly I am trying to find a mobo with good reviews.

I am open to suggestions on the GPU and CPU I have selected, I am quite new at this stuff (I also don't know how to overclock and all that jazz) SO I'm a compete rookie.

Thanks in advance :D 
September 5, 2013 11:42:33 PM

The i7 3930k would also be good, as well as supply you with an upgrade path to ivy-e. Unless you really need the ecc capabilities of the xeon.

If you get the i7, you can get any asus/gigabyte, etc mobo that has a 2011 socket.

here is a build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/apower101/saved/2kxT replace the quadro 4000 with a k4000.
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September 6, 2013 2:06:49 PM

I don't even really understand the ecc part, I was looking at the 3930k first because I've seen a lot of people use that and someone said to use a xeon instead. They are quite spendy though. Does the 3930k and quadro k4000 work well together?
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September 6, 2013 2:07:33 PM

And thank you for the partpicker link! Very helpful :) 
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September 6, 2013 8:32:52 PM

SO I have essentially two builds right now:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (but I might wait for the i7-4930K)
CPU cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler
mobo: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard
memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: PNY Quadro K4000 2GB Video Card
power supply:Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V
optical drive: Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer


OR

CPU: Xeon e5-1650
CPU cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler
mobo: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard
memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Seagate Constellation ES.3 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: PNY Quadro K4000 2GB Video Card
power supply:Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V
optical drive: Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer


I believe I am pretty sold on the k4000, basing it off of most articles i have read. Although I do keep going back and forth on that and a gtx 780 or a w7000. This is all such a difficult choice! Feedback is very much appreciated!
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September 7, 2013 2:20:47 AM

w7000 doesn't have cuda. DOn't get that. The k4000 is much better for rendering, and the 780 is better for gaming. ecc is error correcting, meaning that virtually no small artifacts, or unfinished bits of your work will occur. Xeon is good, but for professionals, which explains the premium over an i7. If you can wait for the 4930k, I would. It is for you to decide, as a xeon based, quadro and ecc memory system will serve you better for rendering (because of the ecc memory, not the cpu capabilities), whereas the 3930k build will do fantastically well for rendering, and also do well for gaming.
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September 9, 2013 2:04:27 AM

Okay, so scratch the w7000 idea! Good, this helps narrow it down. As of now I have changed my build up slightly to where it looks like this:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (but I might wait for the i7-4930K)
CPU cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler
mobo: Asus P9X79 WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard
memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: PNY Quadro K4000 2GB Video Card OR GTX Titan....
power supply:Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V
optical drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer


I've read a new article that suggests the Titan for a "pro" build. While I am not near being a pro (yet) I would like to have a nice set up....Is the titan worth it over the k4000? I've heard so many things from each sides that say xeon & quadro set ups are best. Which it does sound very nice, but I keep second guessing myself the more I read.

I mean, my computer RIGHT now is awful... Intel Q6600, with 4GB of RAM and a geforce gtx 260. So anything is going to be a very nice step up. I just want to make sure I'm spending my money wisely.
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September 9, 2013 2:11:41 AM

ALmost identical situation to me then. I had a q6600, 4gb ram, with a firepro v3750 until a week ago, when I got a titan and a 4770k for rendering in blender and 3d modelling. The Titan's 6gb buffer is fantastic, but the drivers are for gaming. If you game, get the titan, because, as you say you are not yet a pro. If you do not game, get the k4000. up to you. I personally, got the titan, because I game a fair bit.
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September 9, 2013 11:32:10 PM

Do you think the titan works pretty well for your 3D purposes than? I understand it'd be different that k4000. But everyone says it's just so much more powerful, and could potentially be worth it.

I don't game hardcore on my pc, but I do sometimes. When Sims 4 comes out I'll be getting that, and I like to play age of empires. Might play a bit more if I had an awesome computer to handle it, this one I'm on now has made gaming painful sometimes.
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September 9, 2013 11:37:03 PM

the k4000 will not be fun to play with... However, artifacts will not occur while rendering. I wouldn't be surprised if the titan renders just as fast, however, artifacts might occur. I've never noticed them though. I think the titan is wonderful for rendering, not to mention gaming... The advantage of the titan, other than the gaming performance, is the 6gb vram. That could help in high-poly environments.
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September 10, 2013 11:41:05 PM

awesome. Thank you very much, very helpful :)  What does your entire build look like?
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September 11, 2013 12:20:33 AM

i7-4770k
Asus Nvidia gtx Titan
16gb ddr3 1600 mhz corsair vengeance low proflie ram
Asus z87 sabertooth motherboard
Corsair hydro h100i cpu cooler, corsair gs800 watt psu
2 X 500gb 50000 rpm samsung drives
Corsair obsidian 350d
Windows 7 home premium
a benq 1080p monitor

I don't bother with optical drives, as they are becoming redundant for me, as I download my programs, and I transfer files via usb.
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September 14, 2013 3:07:51 AM

for rendering get the titan. The 6gb vram will be useful, as will the extra cuda cores. For gaming, get the 780. No gaming performance gain from the titan.
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September 14, 2013 3:10:13 AM

regarding the newegg deal. Don't get it. The obsidian 800d is too big, unless you're planning on buying 4 titans and an xl atx mobo, as well as full watercooling. The psu is also way overkill, and the i7-3820 is not much better than a 3770k, much less a 3930k.
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September 16, 2013 1:37:01 AM

Well that's good to know! Thanks :)  Also, why did you go the 4770k route instead of the 4930k? I've heard things about both, but I'd like your input! :D 
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September 16, 2013 2:11:53 AM

the 4770k is more than good enough for what I needed it for. Also, the chipset is newer and might support broadwell. Added to that are the significant savings I made on buying the 4770k over the 3930k. WHen you go socket 2011, you pay premium for the motherboard, etc not just the cpu. If you can afford it go for it, as it will last longer. If you game, the 4770k is usually better (newer chipset).
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September 16, 2013 2:11:54 AM

the 4770k is more than good enough for what I needed it for. Also, the chipset is newer and might support broadwell. Added to that are the significant savings I made on buying the 4770k over the 3930k. WHen you go socket 2011, you pay premium for the motherboard, etc not just the cpu. If you can afford it go for it, as it will last longer. If you game, the 4770k is usually better (newer chipset).
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September 17, 2013 5:53:37 PM

SO I'm going to just go with this build I believe:

CPU: i7-4770k
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (it says it's LGA 1155 compatible, but I read online it works with LGA 1150 as well)
motherboard: ASUS z87-Deluxe/Dual
GPU: GeForce GTX Titan Superclocked 6gb
RAM: Corsair vengeance LP 32GB
SSD: Samsung 840 pro 512 gb
Hard DRive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Series HX 850 Watt
Case: NZXT Matte Black CA_h630
optical drive: LG Blu-Ray
Keyboard: Logitech mk750 wireless solar keyboard &Marathon mouse combo
Monitors: ASUS VX279Q 27-Inch Screen LED-Lit Monitor x2
Other: Kingwin 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch internal hard disk drive mounting kit (I don't know if it's necessary, but it's only $7 and someone suggested it.)


Pretty sure I'm going to be ordering that tonight, so any last input would be awesome :)  You've been so much help!
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September 17, 2013 11:22:33 PM

Seems good to me. Enjoy your build.
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