Overclocking 4670K with Asus Z87 Gryphon

n1ghtr4v3n · Sep 5, 2013

Hey there,

I recently bought a new system and willing to overclock it. I've had enough experience as a former overclocker but would like some tips with this specific cpu and motherboard combo from people who already use the same or similar stuff... (At least people who use Haswell with Asus boards)

here is the system...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($168.74 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GS 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Samsung S23B550V 23.0" Monitor ($200.00)
Keyboard: Microsoft XSA-00001 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($50.00)
Speakers: Creative Labs A220 9W 2.1ch Speakers ($25.56 @ Amazon)
Total: $1752.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-05 03:50 EDT-0400)

Thanks...

coastie65 · Sep 5, 2013

Hi. Not sure of what BiOS is in there. I am using an i7 4770k on an ASUS Z87 - Pro Motherboard. It has the UEFI BiOS and OCing is rather straightforward with that. With UEFI, you enter the BiOS ( from the desktopp ) and I think it is four steps, then you sit back and watch as it does it automatically. You can shift to a "Traditional" BiOS and go in an tinker with the Voltages and Bclck and stuff. I went from 3.5 Ghz to 4.6 Ghz with the Auto matic thing and got my memory speed to 2133 Mhz. Probably could have gotten more on the CPU, but the cooling held it down. I know that with a Noctua cooler, I probably could have gotten 4.8 Ghz on the processor.

n1ghtr4v3n · Sep 6, 2013

hmm.. I see. Thanks for your time for answering.

I tried some tweaking by traditional way with the uefi bios. With 1.2V I could only reach 4.20GHZ. With 1.2V and 4.50GHZ I couldnt even start the machine, needed a hard reset. Tried giving it 1.25V to see if i could reach 4.40GHZ, it worked, but then I was held back by temps as you mentioned. So I started to think this is pretty much the limit of this specific CPU, unless I go for a liquid cooler.

With a cooler master hyper 212 evo, if I push 1.25V, core temps easily reach ~95C under stress test. with 1.2V I was around 85C max.

So... I was thinking maybe I am missing some points with this UEFI Bios or maybe the cpu is from a bad batch... Maybe I should go for a rma ?

coastie65 · Sep 6, 2013

Yeah, you start pushing the voltage it really plays heck with the core temps. You may have gotten a not so good processor in the silicon lottery. I have been seeing quite a few 4.5 Ghz clocks on the i5 4670k. All nice and stable with decent core temps ( 4.8 ghz on the i7 4770k ). From your description, I don't don't know if your missing anything or not. Did you mess with the Bclck or just go with upping the multiplier?

n1ghtr4v3n · Sep 7, 2013

coastie65 :

just the multiplier so far. didnt really need to try neither bclk or bclk straps. a

well I got a weird issue though. Whatever frequency or multiplier I set in bios, after I boot in to windows I see the overclocked frequencies for a minute, but then they fall back to stock for a weird reason. I tried couple stress testing utilities, but it does not go higher than the stock frequency 3400mhz (it stays at 34x, weirdly, even though at CPUZ screen the multiplier range is shown as 8x-43x, like I set it in bios 43x). However the manual voltage set stays at the value 1.25V that I dialed in.

So to summarize, whatever multiplier I set, at first minute after boot, the target value is successful, I can see it in CPUZ, task manager (win8) and some other stuff as well, but after a little bit of time, frequency and multiplier sits thight at 3400 and 34x, however the voltage is sitting at the desired value.

Plus, I can turn on and off EIST feature, but even if I turn off Turbo, its turns itself on when cpu multiplier is set manually. Is this normal? I installed the latest BIOS for Gryphon board didnt really change anything...

Am I missing some point?

coastie65 · Sep 7, 2013

n1ghtr4v3n :

coastie65 :

just the multiplier so far. didnt really need to try neither bclk or bclk straps. a

well I got a weird issue though. Whatever frequency or multiplier I set in bios, after I boot in to windows I see the overclocked frequencies for a minute, but then they fall back to stock for a weird reason. I tried couple stress testing utilities, but it does not go higher than the stock frequency 3400mhz (it stays at 34x, weirdly, even though at CPUZ screen the multiplier range is shown as 8x-43x, like I set it in bios 43x). However the manual voltage set stays at the value 1.25V that I dialed in.

So to summarize, whatever multiplier I set, at first minute after boot, the target value is successful, I can see it in CPUZ, task manager (win8) and some other stuff as well, but after a little bit of time, frequency and multiplier sits thight at 3400 and 34x, however the voltage is sitting at the desired value.

Plus, I can turn on and off EIST feature, but even if I turn off Turbo, its turns itself on when cpu multiplier is set manually. Is this normal? I installed the latest BIOS for Gryphon board didnt really change anything...

Am I missing some point?

These things are funny. Not at all like the 775 based quad cores. I am showing 100 x 46 in the BiOs and that is what it is OC'd to ( 4.6 Ghz ). CPU - Z shows 100 x 8. ( 800 Mhz ). [shrug] Oddly enough, When I went into CPU -Z and clicked the Memory tab, Everything but the amount of memory was grayed out. This is good from ASUS and I think Your BiOS is the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoaAT5TkXc4

n1ghtr4v3n · Sep 9, 2013

coastie65 :

Seems like there was no problems with either cpu/mobo or bios or any settings. I was using RealTemp software to keep track of my temperatures and in its settings you can actually enable/disable C-States/EIST/Turbo etc. (while you are in actually Windows). So as you may know, in BIOS if you disable turbo, manually dialed cpu multipliers turns back to default (which is auto) and if you dialed any cpu multiplier Turbo should be always on, if you dial multipliers turbo turns on automatically anways.

So, when I turned off turbo in RealTemp (I actually dont even remember doing so), multipliers got stuck at stock speeds even if they were set in BIOS.
All I needed to do is un-check "disable Turbo" option in Real Temp and VOILA!

Everything is back to normal...

I hope if somebody else is aware of this, wouldnt spend all their weekend like me trying to fix this stupid problem lol...

Peace!

coastie65 · Sep 9, 2013

n1ghtr4v3n :

coastie65 :

Seems like there was no problems with either cpu/mobo or bios or any settings. I was using RealTemp software to keep track of my temperatures and in its settings you can actually enable/disable C-States/EIST/Turbo etc. (while you are in actually Windows). So as you may know, in BIOS if you disable turbo, manually dialed cpu multipliers turns back to default (which is auto) and if you dialed any cpu multiplier Turbo should be always on, if you dial multipliers turbo turns on automatically anways.

So, when I turned off turbo in RealTemp (I actually dont even remember doing so), multipliers got stuck at stock speeds even if they were set in BIOS.
All I needed to do is un-check "disable Turbo" option in Real Temp and VOILA!

Everything is back to normal...

I hope if somebody else is aware of this, wouldnt spend all their weekend like me trying to fix this stupid problem lol...

Peace!

Yeah. I haven't heard of anyone disabling Turbo, but EIST being enabled can hamper OCing, or so I've heard.

AteByYourself · Nov 23, 2013

Hi, same issue with you, there's a new BIOS update which improves stability, cheers.

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