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September 5, 2013 3:43:24 PM

I just upgraded my rig with some new components. I'd like to know what you guys think of what I've put together as well as ask some questions about a few things.

New Specs:

-Intel Core i7-4770K
-Asus Z87-PLUS
-Samsung 250GB SSD MZ-7TD250BW
-EVGA GeForce GTX780 (03G-P4-2784-KR)

Old Specs:

-Corsair Vengeance 16GB
-Cooler Master V8 (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP)
-OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W

So I did a totally fresh install of Windows 7 64-bit and installed only the following drivers:

-Intel_LAN_Win7_8_VER181590
-Intel-Chipset_Win7_8_VER9401017
-MEI-Win7_8_VER9001287
-Z87-A_Z87-PLUS_DTS_Update_Pack_Win7_8_VER10300
-Realtek_Audio_Win7_8_VER6016853
-326.80-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-english-beta

Are there any other drivers I need or did I use the wrong drivers? I want to get the most out of this system as possible. With that in mind, I went in to the BIOS and, following this video, tried overclocking to 4.5 GHz. I basically followed the video to the tee but when I go to my computer properties it says it's still running at 3.5GHz. Is that normal? My previous machine said the factory clock speed and then my overclock speed just to the right of that number.

If the rig is running without shutting down, does that mean the PSU is sufficient or is it possible it can cause a bottleneck type situation and actually hold back the CPU/GPU while still allowing them to function? I'd like to get a higher wattage PSU but I just spent a ton of money on the other component and I don't want to go over board.

Another issue I have found is it takes around 15 seconds for the LAN to kick in and find the internet connection. It does the swirling blue loading thing for a few seconds then the warning sign then it finally catches on and connects. Why would that be?

Lastly, I know this is technically the wrong section for this, but is there really any purpose in GPU overclocking? Every time I try it I don't end up seeing any improvement. Is there a particular utility to do this with? I have use MSI Afterburner in the past but I never know how far to take it and which specific things to adjust.

Please, if you have any comments or suggestions, please just throw them out here. I have very little clue what I'm doing, I need to learn, and I want to squeeze as much performance out of this thing as possible (mostly for gaming but also video editing/rendering).

Thanks!

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a b V Motherboard
September 5, 2013 4:01:26 PM

Looks like you've covered all critical drivers: chipset, LAN, audio and video so no worries there.

Usually computer properties report the stock clock of the CPU, so try checking it with CPU-Z (might need to do it while running Prime95 or another intensive application if Intel SpeedStep is on).

I wouldn't worry about your PSU wattage (it's more than enough for your system specs), only thing to check would be if it provides enough amperage on the +12V rail for your GPU (your pc might stay on but could hold back your gpu while under heavy stress if amperage is not sufficient)

As for your network interface....... if you have it in DHCP mode, it could simply be the time it's taking it to acquire an IP address from the DHCP server (usually your modem/router). Also sometimes windows 7's network icon gives a false report, try pinging google while icon is still "loading" and see if you already have connection.

GPU Ocing does help providing better FPS on gpu-intensive games/applications, but unless you do some serious Ocing (with voltage tweaking etc) improvement might not be noticed like you said.
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September 5, 2013 4:24:27 PM

RaDiKaL_ said:
Looks like you've covered all critical drivers: chipset, LAN, audio and video so no worries there.

Usually computer properties report the stock clock of the CPU, so try checking it with CPU-Z (might need to do it while running Prime95 or another intensive application if Intel SpeedStep is on).

I wouldn't worry about your PSU wattage (it's more than enough for your system specs), only thing to check would be if it provides enough amperage on the +12V rail for your GPU (your pc might stay on but could hold back your gpu while under heavy stress if amperage is not sufficient)

As for your network interface....... if you have it in DHCP mode, it could simply be the time it's taking it to acquire an IP address from the DHCP server (usually your modem/router). Also sometimes windows 7's network icon gives a false report, try pinging google while icon is still "loading" and see if you already have connection.

GPU Ocing does help providing better FPS on gpu-intensive games/applications, but unless you do some serious Ocing (with voltage tweaking etc) improvement might not be noticed like you said.


Checked with CPU-Z and, indeed, it is showing a clock speed of 4.5! Do you think it's worth trying to go higher?

Can you please explain what the "rails" are on the PSU? Honestly, all I really do is plug everything in that matches up and hope it works.

How do I check if it's in DHCP mode?

So it's probably a good idea to look up an overclocking guide for my specific GPU?
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a b V Motherboard
September 5, 2013 4:50:49 PM

I'd suggest to push your CPU higher only if you really see its needed, 4.5GHz is a nice boost so first give it a try.

a PSU rail it's the "channel" through which it send power, at one side of your PSU you will find a label where indicates how much amperage does each rail (+3.3V, +5V, +12V, -12V etc) has, check the ammount of amperage on your +12V rail and see if that's enough for your GPU (a google search should tell you how much your GPU needs). Also bear in mind you might have multiple +12V rails, don't add up their amperages that's not the way to see the real ammount, again, a google search will tell you the formula to calculate (if needed).

for your network interface, open network center and shared resources (left click on network icon)->local area network->properties->TCP/IPv4->properties, there you'll see if its on manual or "automatically get IP address" (DHCP).

You could try Ocing your GPU indeed, once again, I'd suggest to do it (at least the voltage tweaking) only if u see you really need it.

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September 5, 2013 5:12:31 PM

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So I did a totally fresh install of Windows 7 64-bit and installed only the following drivers:


I always install everything on the MoBo CD (and other hardware CDs) except stuff I know I will not use.....i.e. no RAID if I'm not using RAID. I do this for two reasons:

1. To establish a working "outta the box" system in case there are any need to call Tech Support
2. Sometimes, especially on entusiast MoBos and optical, there are certain utilities and bonus porgrams that will only install or 'activate" if installed off the CD

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I basically followed the video to the tee but when I go to my computer properties it says it's still running at 3.5GHz. Is that normal? My previous machine said the factory clock speed and then my overclock speed just to the right of that number


Yes, that's exactly what happened in the video (@ 15:00). You need to run a program to load the CPU and it will respond to the load and step up the GHz

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Another issue I have found is it takes around 15 seconds for the LAN to kick in and find the internet connection. It does the swirling blue loading thing for a few seconds then the warning sign then it finally catches on and connects. Why would that be?


Thatz normal.

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Lastly, I know this is technically the wrong section for this, but is there really any purpose in GPU overclocking? Every time I try it I don't end up seeing any improvement. Is there a particular utility to do this with? I have use MSI Afterburner in the past but I never know how far to take it and which specific things to adjust.


see this

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_7...


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September 5, 2013 5:40:44 PM

Is there any reason to use EVGA Precision over MSI Afterburner?
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September 5, 2013 5:44:36 PM

Afterburner seem to be the "crowd favorite".... I haven't done a build w/ a EVGA card since a bad experience with (don't ask ) took 18 months to resolve) a FTW 295 some years ago so havent had an opportunity to play with Precision.
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September 5, 2013 6:43:27 PM

Well I think I like the interface, particularly the monitoring part, of Afterburner more so I think I'll stick with it.

Thanks to both of you for the help. I don't know who to give the solution to!
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