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Anonymous
September 6, 2013 9:30:45 PM

Hello,
i'm mechanically sound when it comes to electronics, but I've never built a pc. My wife's desktop crashed and she jacked my laptop, so i decided to build a gaming pc/ home office workstation i have no real knowledge on what i need but i know what i would like it to do. be able to play TES skyrim, TES Online once it comes out,and GTA5. have an hdmi connection, have room for a solid state, a sata3 and possible and esata hard drive and have enough room power and cooling to support being better than the Nex-GEn consoles and maybe beyond their lifespan. i have a starting budget of $500-$600 but plan to constantly upgrade it over then next Few months
any help will be earnestly appreciated. what i have so far is

dmax Tornado (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $47.98
Manufacturer Raidmax Part # ATX-238WR Type ATX Mid Tower Color Black/Red
Power Supply None External 3.5" Bays 1 External 5.25" Bays 4 internal 3.5" Bays 5
Motherboard Compatibility ATX Dimensions (L x W x D) 19.50" x 8.00" x 16.50"

ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4 ATX FM2 Motherboard$79.99
Manufacturer ASRock Part # FM2A85X Extreme4 Form Factor ATX
CPU Socket FM2 CPU Max TDP Supports CPUs up to 100W TDP
Chipset AMD A85X Memory Slots 4 x 240-pin DIMM
Memory Type DDR3-1066/1333/1600/1866/2133/2400/2600
Max Memory 64GB RAID Support Yes Onboard Video Depends on CPU
CrossFire Support Yes SLI Support No SATA 6 Gb/s 7 eSATA 6Gb/s 1
Onboard Ethernet (1) 10/100/1000 Mbps Onboard USB 3.0 Header(s) Yes

PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card$169.99
PowerColor Part # AX7850 2GBD5-2DHPP
Interface PCI-Express x16 Chipset Radeon HD 7850
Memory Size 2GB Memory Type GDDR5
Core Clock 1.0GHz Fan Yes SLI Support No
CrossFire Support Yes DVI-I Dual-Link 2 HDMI 1
Mini-Display Port 2

Xion 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99
Manufacturer Xion Part # AXP-700K14XE
Type ATX Wattage 700 Watts
Fans 1 Modular Semi-Modular
Efficiency Certification 80 PLUS Bronze Efficiency < 85%
Output +3.3V@25A, +5V@25A, +12V1@25A, +12V2@25A, -12V@0.3A, +5VSB@2.5A

AMD A6-6400K 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor$69.99
Manufacturer AMD Model A6-6400K
Part # AD640KOKHLBOX Data Width 64-bit
Socket FM2 Speed 3.9GHz Cores 2
L1 Cache 1 x 64KB Instruction, 2 x 16KB Data
L2 Cache 1 x 1MB L3 Cache None
Hyper-Threading No Integrated Graphics Radeon HD 8470D
Lithography 32 nm Thermal Design Power 65 Watts

if i need different or if there is cheaper option let me know
dont need: keyboard, mouse, monitor(using o-led tv), speakers, or OS

thanks for any help given.
a b 4 Gaming
September 6, 2013 10:06:35 PM

If you can afford to upgrade that CPU now, I would. Save easier stuff to install for the upgrades, if necessary.

Other recommendations would be a better name in PSUs: Corsair, SeaSonic, EVGA, etc. Also right now there's a big sale on the ASUS 660, same cost as the 7850 you mentioned with a bit more performance (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). Also check out the Corsair 200r case, that will give you USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s and PCI-E 3.0, for about $5 more...

But again, biggest thing in my mind is that CPU. It's going to be the main bottleneck in your system, imo.
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Anonymous
September 7, 2013 12:48:29 AM

ACTechy said:
If you can afford to upgrade that CPU now, I would. Save easier stuff to install for the upgrades, if necessary.

Other recommendations would be a better name in PSUs: Corsair, SeaSonic, EVGA, etc. Also right now there's a big sale on the ASUS 660, same cost as the 7850 you mentioned with a bit more performance (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). Also check out the Corsair 200r case, that will give you USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s and PCI-E 3.0, for about $5 more...

But again, biggest thing in my mind is that CPU. It's going to be the main bottleneck in your system, imo.


I took your advice on pretty much everything except the video card i decided to start small with two older asus' crossfired in order to save money and improve the motherboard and cpu, also with the case i went a little bigger to accommodate future upgrades not sure if i need all of the space tho. heres what i came up with
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.13 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: SilenX EFZ-92HA2 54.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($10.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($34.13 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($34.13 @ Amazon)
Wired Network Adapter: Asus NX1101 10/100/1000 Mbps PCI Network Adapter ($15.67 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N10 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Xion XON-985-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DVD-E818AAT/BLK/B/GEN DVD/CD Drive ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $626.94
Like i said im not even sure if this is everything i need or if i have too much
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Anonymous
September 7, 2013 12:48:32 AM

ACTechy said:
If you can afford to upgrade that CPU now, I would. Save easier stuff to install for the upgrades, if necessary.

Other recommendations would be a better name in PSUs: Corsair, SeaSonic, EVGA, etc. Also right now there's a big sale on the ASUS 660, same cost as the 7850 you mentioned with a bit more performance (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). Also check out the Corsair 200r case, that will give you USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s and PCI-E 3.0, for about $5 more...

But again, biggest thing in my mind is that CPU. It's going to be the main bottleneck in your system, imo.


I took your advice on pretty much everything except the video card i decided to start small with two older asus' crossfired in order to save money and improve the motherboard and cpu, also with the case i went a little bigger to accommodate future upgrades not sure if i need all of the space tho. heres what i came up with
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ATpx/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.13 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: SilenX EFZ-92HA2 54.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($10.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($34.13 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($34.13 @ Amazon)
Wired Network Adapter: Asus NX1101 10/100/1000 Mbps PCI Network Adapter ($15.67 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus USB-N10 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($9.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Xion XON-985-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus DVD-E818AAT/BLK/B/GEN DVD/CD Drive ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $626.94
Like i said im not even sure if this is everything i need or if i have too much
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a b 4 Gaming
September 7, 2013 10:30:48 AM

Nice changes. Yeah, like you mentioned, don't expect a lot from the 5450s Crossfired, still gonna be super low end. If it were me, I'd spend the same amount you're gonna spend on a single card; like 6670, 7750 or GT 640 on sale around $70-$80.

Also, you don't need a PCI network adapter, the motherboard has onboard LAN at the same speeds as that adapter.

Cheers!
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Anonymous
September 7, 2013 3:29:58 PM

So here's what i came up with let me know if it all adds up and if it will perform well enough please!


Initial build for higjly upgradable cheap gaming PC


CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: SilenX EFZ-92HA2 54.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($10.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 5450 1GB Video Card ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I Epic Edition (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DVD-E818AAT/BLK/B/GEN DVD/CD Drive ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $532.88)



UPGRADES

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($45.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Mad Catz V5 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Mad Catz R.A.T. 3 Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ TigerDirect)
Headphones: Creative Labs Hs-430 Headset ($29.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $816.88
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a c 409 4 Gaming
September 7, 2013 3:34:13 PM

Don't crossfire those low end cards. Get an hd 7870LE Tahiti for the same price.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 7, 2013 3:41:04 PM

You can run TES Skyrim on that, with lower settings, should be fine. I still think it's a bit of a waste to buy a bunch of components now and already be planning on phasing them out...used components can be hard to sell or get anything back on. Just my 2 cents :) 
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Anonymous
September 7, 2013 6:11:52 PM

as far as the wasting of parts i will eventually use the residule parts to build a home pc for my wife or maybe a HTPC
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a b 4 Gaming
September 8, 2013 12:39:14 AM

Anonymous said:
as far as the wasting of parts i will eventually use the residule parts to build a home pc for my wife or maybe a HTPC


Happy building!
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