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September 8, 2013 3:26:26 AM

Hey, been looking into building my first rig for a while now and I have chosen some parts at good prices and from what I can tell, good quality, but I havent really had any suggestions or recommendations, just what I could find and as this is my first build, I am a nub when it comes to hardware. I have a list below, shared my cart from a local store (Sorry, pcpartpicker didn't show the parts I wanted, I asked the owner to ad this site, lol) below, does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations concerning my parts? It is going to be a gaming rig, but also used for streaming, recording and video editing, as well as general school work. I want the price to be as low as possible without loosing quality, with the parts I found it is around $1200 aud, also I need to be able to get any suggested parts in au without massive shipping.

https://www.centrecom.com.au/wishlist/1a6a76f0-1821-4fa...


Thanks, Coolo.

Edit-I already have an SSD and 2 HDDs.

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September 8, 2013 3:39:20 AM

Don't forget SSD's ^^;

I recommend using a Samsung EVO, the lower prices and greater write speeds are very nice.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD's have a huge impact on your performance. You should buy a SSD and a secondary HDD.

Also, if you do record on your machine, make sure you have at least 2 storage disks. One that your game runs off, and the other that the recording software records to. This will improve your frame rate immensely during the recording!

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September 8, 2013 3:45:08 AM

Thanks for the suggestions, I left out all drives because I have a 120gb ssd for the os, a 720gb hdd for files and games and then a 480gb hdd for videos :D  All from last pc (it was a laptop)
Semperiox said:
Don't forget SSD's ^^;

I recommend using a Samsung EVO, the lower prices and greater write speeds are very nice.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD's have a huge impact on your performance. You should buy a SSD and a secondary HDD.

Also, if you do record on your machine, make sure you have at least 2 storage disks. One that your game runs off, and the other that the recording software records to. This will improve your frame rate immensely during the recording!



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September 8, 2013 3:48:04 AM

Also, if you're looking for the best price, you should get an i5, not an i7. The only major feature you get from the i7 is Hyperthreading. If you chose the i7 specifically for that, go ahead. But otherwise, the i5 is probably a better choice. Especially if you're looking to save your money!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

And lastly, the CPU you have is the unlocked version (thats what the K means at the end of the numbers). The unlocked version is only beneficial if you're looking to overclock your cpu. Again, if thats what you want, go ahead. But you will probably want a third-party cooler for the CPU if you are going to do that. But if you don't want to over-clock, and still want to save some money, Go for the unlocked version, and save yourself $20!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

If you are looking to overclock your CPU, I'd check out Noctua coolers! They are quiet, and very efficient!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Np :) 
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September 8, 2013 4:06:23 AM

Semperiox said:
Also, if you're looking for the best price, you should get an i5, not an i7. The only major feature you get from the i7 is Hyperthreading. If you chose the i7 specifically for that, go ahead. But otherwise, the i5 is probably a better choice. Especially if you're looking to save your money!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

And lastly, the CPU you have is the unlocked version (thats what the K means at the end of the numbers). The unlocked version is only beneficial if you're looking to overclock your cpu. Again, if thats what you want, go ahead. But you will probably want a third-party cooler for the CPU if you are going to do that. But if you don't want to over-clock, and still want to save some money, Go for the unlocked version, and save yourself $20!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

If you are looking to overclock your CPU, I'd check out Noctua coolers! They are quiet, and very efficient!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Np :) 


What does the hyper threading do in terms of performance? I chose that CPU because it was a quad core overclockable intel with quite a nice base clock. The fan looks really good, although I would probably wait a while before I bought it unless I was able to knock off $70 from the total price as I don't really have a budget, but if I go much over $1200 I will have to wait till next year (literally end of next year) to get enough. I want to try and future proof as much of the build as I can, I thought the first thing would upgrade when I got more money would be the gpu. The case is massive, there is twice the ram I have now and the mboard has a lot of space and can handle more ram and overclocking.

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September 8, 2013 4:38:30 AM

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What does the hyper threading do in terms of performance? I chose that CPU because it was a quad core overclockable intel with quite a nice base clock. The fan looks really good, although I would probably wait a while before I bought it unless I was able to knock off $70 from the total price as I don't really have a budget, but if I go much over $1200 I will have to wait till next year (literally end of next year) to get enough. I want to try and future proof as much of the build as I can, I thought the first thing would upgrade when I got more money would be the gpu. The case is massive, there is twice the ram I have now and the mboard has a lot of space and can handle more ram and overclocking.

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Basically, It offsets your threads on the hardware, and makes 8 threads. In very basic terms, You get twice as many cores, with half the speed. Meaning you can do more at the same time. Its only really good for productivity, and heavy editing. But if its mainly going to be a gaming machine, you should go with the i5. It has 4 cores, same as the i7, and its clock speed is only a little bit lower. worth saving your money for a better gpu, than paying for a CPU that you might not need.

The i5 3570 is a very good cpu. And if you're not going to overclock it, you wont need a new fan.

But regardless, if you want the i7, but dont want to overclock it. Go for the i7 3770, instead of the i7 3770K. Best not pay for a feature youre not going to use.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

But if you do get the i7 3770K, you can get the same CPU on pccasegear for $5 less. Might be good, depending on shipping costs.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
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September 8, 2013 4:56:04 AM

These are my suggestions:

1.) Replace your i7 CPU to an i5. The i5 is already sufficient to do all your school work. Also, i5 and i7 has very minimal or no difference at all when it comes to gaming. Furthermore, i5 is cheaper, thus getting it will increase your budget allocated for the GPU.

2.) I noticed that you chose the GTX 650 ti. It's a powerful card, but not powerful enough. In my opinion, this card is only a bit above an entry level gaming system. I suggest that you upgrade to a GTX 660 or a GTX 760 for a better performance. I myself even built a gaming rig with an Intel g2030 and a GTX 660, it costs less than $500 but performs like an Alienware.

3.) Your PSU is way above your needed wattage. I suggest that you get a Corsair or Seasonic power supply that has more than 80% efficiency. Even a GTX Titan paired with an Intel i7 will only produce a peak wattage of less than 350w. Also, don't mind the design of your PSU, you won't be looking at it while your playing anyway.
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September 8, 2013 2:15:15 PM

james77 said:
These are my suggestions:

1.) Replace your i7 CPU to an i5. The i5 is already sufficient to do all your school work. Also, i5 and i7 has very minimal or no difference at all when it comes to gaming. Furthermore, i5 is cheaper, thus getting it will increase your budget allocated for the GPU.

2.) I noticed that you chose the GTX 650 ti. It's a powerful card, but not powerful enough. In my opinion, this card is only a bit above an entry level gaming system. I suggest that you upgrade to a GTX 660 or a GTX 760 for a better performance. I myself even built a gaming rig with an Intel g2030 and a GTX 660, it costs less than $500 but performs like an Alienware.

3.) Your PSU is way above your needed wattage. I suggest that you get a Corsair or Seasonic power supply that has more than 80% efficiency. Even a GTX Titan paired with an Intel i7 will only produce a peak wattage of less than 350w. Also, don't mind the design of your PSU, you won't be looking at it while your playing anyway.

I chose the power supply based on price, it was the cheapest 1000w. I wanted to get a power supply that wouldn't need to be upgraded for a long time, but I just read that they should be replaced every 5 years, so I will get a lower wattage psu. I read up about the 15 compared to the i7, the i7 was a little cooler, overclocked quite a bit higher and performed better in every test. I usually multitask a lot with my pc, usually have a game, irc, steam, skype, some school work and google chrome with lots of tabs open, would the i5 still run well with that? Also I would use my PC for rendering and editing a lot. Would the 660 really be worth the extra money? This one I found is almost $100 more but has pretty much the same specs. What is the difference?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
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September 9, 2013 6:26:38 AM

Coolo said:
james77 said:
These are my suggestions:

1.) Replace your i7 CPU to an i5. The i5 is already sufficient to do all your school work. Also, i5 and i7 has very minimal or no difference at all when it comes to gaming. Furthermore, i5 is cheaper, thus getting it will increase your budget allocated for the GPU.

2.) I noticed that you chose the GTX 650 ti. It's a powerful card, but not powerful enough. In my opinion, this card is only a bit above an entry level gaming system. I suggest that you upgrade to a GTX 660 or a GTX 760 for a better performance. I myself even built a gaming rig with an Intel g2030 and a GTX 660, it costs less than $500 but performs like an Alienware.

3.) Your PSU is way above your needed wattage. I suggest that you get a Corsair or Seasonic power supply that has more than 80% efficiency. Even a GTX Titan paired with an Intel i7 will only produce a peak wattage of less than 350w. Also, don't mind the design of your PSU, you won't be looking at it while your playing anyway.

I chose the power supply based on price, it was the cheapest 1000w. I wanted to get a power supply that wouldn't need to be upgraded for a long time, but I just read that they should be replaced every 5 years, so I will get a lower wattage psu. I read up about the 15 compared to the i7, the i7 was a little cooler, overclocked quite a bit higher and performed better in every test. I usually multitask a lot with my pc, usually have a game, irc, steam, skype, some school work and google chrome with lots of tabs open, would the i5 still run well with that? Also I would use my PC for rendering and editing a lot. Would the 660 really be worth the extra money? This one I found is almost $100 more but has pretty much the same specs. What is the difference?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...


The GTX 660 is 50% faster than the GTX 650 ti, so in my opinion, it is worth it. However, when it comes to your processor, I'm not really sure about that. I suggest that you make a separate thread for it.
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