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2400 2133 RAM choice for ASUS Maximus VI formula mobo 4770k CPU msi 670 PE SLI as gamming rig Gskill vs Corsair vs Kingston

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September 9, 2013 10:10:01 AM

Hi all, I find that the more I research the more question I have. So here goes:

I am looking for 32GB ram that is compatible with my mobo (on the QVL, unless it has been tested and confirmed by reputable blogs or testers)


I am thinking either Kingston, Corsair, G.Skill or Munchkins No particular reason, just that I have used them before. Also looking for something red if possible so it will go with the red and black theme of my current setup.
September 9, 2013 10:25:08 AM

bjkill said:
I am looking for 32GB ram that is compatible with my mobo (on the QVL, unless it has been tested and confirmed by reputable blogs or testers)


I've had very good results with the GSkill TridentX DDR3/2400 CL10 4x8GB kit, currently using one
on my ASUS Maxiums IV Extreme with a 5GHz 2700K (running at 2133 just to be on the safe side),
and two of them on an ASUS P9X79 WS with a 3930K/4.7 running at the full 2400 speed (ie. maxed
out the RAM to 64GB). They're also styled black and red, so the colours will match.

I'm in the UK, but In the US I found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note the top fins can be removed if required for large coolers.

Ian.

September 9, 2013 12:30:10 PM

mapesdhs said:
bjkill said:
I am looking for 32GB ram that is compatible with my mobo (on the QVL, unless it has been tested and confirmed by reputable blogs or testers)


I've had very good results with the GSkill TridentX DDR3/2400 CL10 4x8GB kit, currently using one
on my ASUS Maxiums IV Extreme with a 5GHz 2700K (running at 2133 just to be on the safe side),
and two of them on an ASUS P9X79 WS with a 3930K/4.7 running at the full 2400 speed (ie. maxed
out the RAM to 64GB). They're also styled black and red, so the colours will match.

I'm in the UK, but In the US I found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note the top fins can be removed if required for large coolers.

Ian.



Hi thanks for the advice. Got a Ram OC Virgin question for you. When the ram is rated for example 2133 does that mean it will run at that frequency at that speed? or does it mean I can tweak it to 2133 and it should not have a problem with that? If that is true then the reverse applies. eg I have 1600 ram, I have a chance of running them at 2133, but depends on the actual ram?
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a c 1592 } Memory
September 9, 2013 6:47:46 PM

Tridents are my pick also (my personal pick as well have 32GB each of 2400 and 2666 on my Z77 and Maximus Hero respectfully -

The sticks are fully XMP compliant, simply install, go to BIOS, enable XMP, select profile 1 and you are up and running on your Formula
September 10, 2013 5:17:48 AM

bjkill said:
... When the ram is rated for example 2133 does that mean it will run at that frequency at that speed? or does it mean I can tweak it to 2133 and it should not have a problem with that? If that is true then the reverse applies. eg I have 1600 ram, I have a chance of running them at 2133, but depends on the actual ram?


If it's rated for 2133 then one should be able to use it at that speed either by setting the
timings manually or via the XMP profiles. I always set the timings manually though,
because in the past I've found using XMP can affect other setttings which I'd rather
did not change.

If your existing RAM is only rated for 1600, then you might be able to oc it to 1700 or so,
but it's very unlikely to run as high as 2133.

My target was 2133 for my 3930K setup, but I bought 2400-rated RAM in order to give
some extra headroom. In the event it handled 2400 ok anyway.

Ian.

a c 1592 } Memory
September 10, 2013 7:54:14 PM

What it's advertised at is what it should run at, if your CPU can carry that freq in DRAM and if the mobo can (though the CPU is the more important part of the equations, for example 2133 and up generally always takes at least a K series Intel CPU, locked Intel and few AMD CPUs can run 2133

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September 11, 2013 3:05:43 AM
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Tradesman1 said:
What it's advertised at is what it should run at, if your CPU can carry that freq in DRAM and if the mobo can (though the CPU is the more important part of the equations, for example 2133 and up generally always takes at least a K series Intel CPU, locked Intel and few AMD CPUs can run 2133


Those are good points; the quality of the CPU's RAM controller and the
nature of the mbd will also make a diffrence. It's certainly easier to
achieve a nice memory oc if only some of the RAM slots are used;
likewise, with some mbds one may only be able to reach the RAM's basic
rated speed & not much more if all the RAM slots are filled. It depends
on the mbd quality and the variability of each CPU. I've been lucky
perhaps, I had a good mbd (Asus Maximums IV Extreme) and my particular
2700K handles max RAM very well even when the CPU is at 5GHz.

PSU quality matters too.

Note though that excessive RAM speed is probably the worst thing upon
which to waste money with respect to choosing cost effective system
upgrades. In general, a better CPU, GPU or disk/SSD gives more of a speed
boost, depending on the application. For gaming, I doubt you'd ever
notice the difference between RAM running at 1866 vs. 2133+. I'd say it's
better to have (for example) 16GB @ 1866 than 8GB @ 2133.

If you can afford 2133 though, then go for it. 8) Beyond that however,
probably not worth spending the extra, unless as I say it may mean it's
easier to reach the lesser 2133 speed because the RAM has more headroom.

One other quirk is pricing. When I was searching for suitable 32GB kits,
I found that the TridentX 2400 kit was cheaper than other 2133 kits, so
there was that incentive too.

On a personal note, I've never been keen on Kingston RAM. I had a 4GB
DDR3/2000 kit from Kingston which I found to be really awful. Replaced
with a Mushkin kit and what a difference! I couldn't even get the Kingston
kit to run at its rated 2000 speed, whereas the Mushkin kit ran just fine.

These days I generally stick with GSkill or Mushkin, though often the
latter is harder to find. Most of my recent purchases, including all the
larger capacity kits I've bought, have been GSkill. Don't know about
Corsair, not bought any of their products yet, but people seem to like them.

Ian.

September 11, 2013 6:21:11 PM

Thanks for the great advice and sharing. I am in the process of finding the correct ram for my Mobo which is Asus Maximus VI formula. but since it is so new, really hard to find reviews on this. If only going with what's on the QVL then not a lot of G.skill or Munchkins are on the list for 32gb kits. Can someone recommend something that is 32gb for my mobo thanks...
a c 1592 } Memory
September 11, 2013 6:41:03 PM

That's prob because the mobo makers test with whatever they have lying around - wouldn't be surprised if you found sets that have been out of production for years on the list...basically QVLs are pretty worthless, they test at the mobos default (1333/1600) so if looking at say 2133 sticks they may be on the list - BUT - were probably 'tested' at 1333 so no way of knowing if their BIOS is even ready for a set they list as 'tested', can see more here:

http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10566
September 12, 2013 2:07:45 AM


Tradesman1 is absolutely right, QVLs are pretty useless. You should be fine with a GSkill TridentX
4x8GB 2400MHz kit. It's what I would use these days for any setup where I wanted to fit 8GB modules.

Ian.



October 6, 2013 6:16:31 PM

That's quite a helpful post Ian, I noticed you are in the UK, can I ask where did you manage to get the Mushkins from? It looks like it is really hard to find Mushkin Ram in the UK.

I have a Mushkin ddr2 set on my old pc running for about 7 years and no bother, even managed to overclock them about 100 mhz but then changed them to default to look after them, so yeah damn good memory they make.

October 6, 2013 7:51:35 PM


Most welcome! 8)

Normally only Aria sells Mushkin RAM. I originally bought a 4GB kit from them on 03/Nov/2010,
Blackline Ridgeback, 2x2GB DDR3/200, PN 996902, 7/10/8/27, cost 91.64 UKP. It was a great
way to give an already low-latency P55 setup that extra edge (i7 870 @ 4.27), I had better
GTX 460 SLI results than a friend's much more costly i7 930 rig. :D 

Funny how times change back & forth. On 20/Oct/12, when RAM was at a decent (and sensible)
low, I bought four Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 2x4GB DDR3/2133 kits from Aria for only 54 each
(9/11/10/28, PN 996997). They work well, but are too hard to obtain now, and of course
prices have risen a lot since then (typical 8GB 2133 CL9 dual-channel kit is more like 76 now).

Since then I've bought only GSkill, both Ripjaw and TridentX. Often I find 2400 kits are cheaper
than 2133. Atm I'm sorting out a 5GHz 2700K system with 2x8GB 2133; it would be cheaper
to get a 32GB 2400 kit, use 2 of the modules, keep the other 2 for another 2700K build, eg.
32GB 2400 (4x8) is 256 from Novatech, whereas 6GB 2133 (2x8) is 138 from memoryc.com.
Down side is splitting the kit. Hmm, haven't decided yet.

I've seen Mushkin kits on eBay US sometimes, but the stupid new import shipping rules on eBay
mean it's not remotely worthwhile (prepaid import fees are *massively* higher than they should be).

Ian.

October 9, 2013 1:48:37 PM

Not sure what's with Mushkin Ram but it is really hard to get, even Aria does not do it now, tried oc.uk and scan without luck. It seems that everyone has thousands of corsairs which I don't want to get. I have a similar build with the formula and i7 so wanted to make sure I put some nice ram on it.

It's rare nowadays to find Tridents (even though they are huge would consider them) I was looking to get the Kingston Beast but would like to find a bit extra headroom, meaning it won't fail it I decide to overclock later. Also want to make sure it runs at least 2133.

I've seen also loads of these 'Avexir' (oc uk is loaded with them) which only look cool but I don't know the brand or capabilities.

At this point you probably think I am a picky bugger lol but I am :D 

a c 1592 } Memory
October 9, 2013 3:00:57 PM

If can't find the Tridents, the GSkill Snipers are a close second, and then might look for the RipJaws X - have tested many sets with my rig and all run great
October 9, 2013 7:34:56 PM

Best source for TridentX right now is probably Novatech. I've just ordered a 32GB
(4x8) DDR3/2400 kit, cost 256 with free shipping. They have 8 more kits in stock.
It's the cheapest way to obtain two sets of 16GB if you're wanting to fit good RAM
into two different systems. :D  (though in my case it's all going on an ASUS M4E
board to max it out, with a 5GHz 2700K)

I did a lot of price hunting this week. Best I could find for a lesser
16GB (2x8) kit was 138 for GSkill TridentX DDR3/2400 from Novatech;
note that for ease of installation, memoryc.com has the GSkill Ares
low-profile kit for 143.

Either way, my 32GB kit arrived this morning! One thing I do like about
Novatech: their free shipping is next-day delivery, whereas Amazon,
etc., use economy services which can take as long as 7 days.

Checking my notes, other references I found for 16GB kits (2x8) were
an 1866 kit for 114 from Novatech, or a 2133 kit from memoryc.com
(but why bother when Novatech has the TridentX/2400 for the same price).

Btw, I took a few pics of my 3930K build, showing the RAM, etc. See:

http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild05.jpg
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild22.jpg
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild23.jpg
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild24.jpg
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild25.jpg
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/3930K_pcbuild26.jpg

Ian.

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